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Unique Ability Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by cpm4001, Sep 29, 2013.

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  1. sendos

    sendos Immortal

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    Babylon: Ingenuity - 16
    Korea: Scholars of the Jade Hall - 24

    Already stated my reasons.
     
  2. cpm4001

    cpm4001 Goggleman

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    Bleck, this thread's over. No way Babylon's better than Poland.
     
  3. Viregel

    Viregel , The Rt. Hon.

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    Do I get points for being the last person to vote Poland up? :crazyeye:
     
  4. redwings1340

    redwings1340 Emperor

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    I would have put Poland at #1, Babylon #2, Korea #3. I wonder if science is actually THAT strong, or if people see boosts to science and assume it's better than everything else. Indirectly, Poland gets some pretty sizable boosts to science through better growth, income, science, war, and other things that will boost their science in the long run.
     
  5. hwarang61

    hwarang61 Chieftain

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    Babylon: Ingenuity - 14 (-4)
    Korea: Scholars of the Jade Hall - 22 (+2)

    Both UAs are awesome, so it was a difficult choice. I have played Korea and Babylon on numerous occasions as science domination is my way to go :p

    But I will vote for Korea's UA simply because I have had much more consistent games with them. I have never lost with Korea (I'm a King difficulty player), yet I have lost as Babylon several times.
     
  6. jlim201

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    Explained both previously.
     
  7. whyidie

    whyidie Emperor

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    The challenge with Poland is quantifying the impact. Korea and Babylon have both been through the ringer. GOTM's, Hall of Fame, even forum shootouts and it helps that they benefit from the most well known (4 cities tradition grow) strategy.

    I'm completely open to the idea that Poland is the most flexible civ. I'm even open to the idea that Poland has untapped potential as the best Civ regardless of VC. The problem is it hasn't been through the ringer yet. IIRC, Maya won the big science shootout (pre-BNW) that was initially between Korea and Babylon. Poland could very well have the same potential but I haven't seen anyone tap it yet. Its a new Civ, it could very well stand the test of time, but its too early to call it the new champ.
     
  8. cpm4001

    cpm4001 Goggleman

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    Yup. Have 20 points right now.
     
  9. Arcaian

    Arcaian Warlord

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    Babylon: Ingenuity - 10+2 = 12
    Korea: Scholars of the Jade Hall - 24 - 4 = 20

    Explained both previously as well.
     
  10. fuzzatron717

    fuzzatron717 Holy Warrior

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    Babylon Ingenuity - 14
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    I shouldn't vote anymore since Poland is out but might as well help finish this thread.
     
  11. Talcove

    Talcove Slayer of Spies

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    Both are really good science Unique Abilities, but Korea's is one that can be used to go tall or wide, can be used in EVERY city, and even somewhat makes up for not having the +50% GS boost. After all, building a science building in the capitol is just like bulbing a great scientist, and they can then use the ones they earn from those buildings to make an Academy... Which has an extra +2 science, as do all great person improvements. When rationalism comes around, they get +4 science per specialist. Great scientists are good, but building a UA entirely around getting more of them isn't a good idea.
     
  12. hwarang61

    hwarang61 Chieftain

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    Babylon Ingenuity - 6 (-4)
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    Reasons stated before
     
  13. jlim201

    jlim201 King

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    Reasons stated previously.

    Lets see if Korea can get 6 haters before Babylon gets 1.
     
  14. redwings1340

    redwings1340 Emperor

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    I'll be the first hater! One more hater and we'll need two Korea votes to close this out!

    I just think that Korea comes in a bit later, although both are incredibly strong.
     
  15. Talcove

    Talcove Slayer of Spies

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    hwar missed my Korea vote, Korea should be up to 20 atm.
     
  16. YourHarry

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    Babylon Ingenuity - 0
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  17. redwings1340

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    Congrats to Korea, the deserving UA champions! I would personally still put Poland as #1, but I suppose they won the overall civ thread, so we can give the UA thread to the sciencers. Finishing with 22 points is a pretty strong showing (after we add in Talcove's vote), that means it was upvoted between two and three times as often as it was downvoted.
     
  18. jlim201

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    1. SCHOLARS OF THE JADE HALL!!!!!!
    2. Ingenuity
    3. Solidarity
    4. Great Andean Road
    5. Hellenic League
    6. Iklwa
    7. The Long Count
    8. Mare Clausum
    9. Father Governs Children
    10. Nobel Prize
    11. Great Expanse
    12. Phoenician Heritage
    13. Achaemenid Legacy
    14. Treasures of Nineveh
    15. Art of War
    16. Siberian Riches
    17. Wayfinding
    18. Sun Never Sets
    19. Carnival
    20. Sacrificial Captives
    21. River Warlord
    22. Seven Cities of Gold
    23. Ships of the Desert
    24. Monument Builders
    25. Seressinissama
    26. Spice Islanders
    27. Patrachairte of Constantinople
    28. Furor Teuctonious (i probably spelled that wrong)
    29. The Glory of Rome
    30. The Great Warpath
    31. Scourge of God
    32. Diplomatic Marriage
    33. Viking Fury
    34. Barbary Corsairs
    35. Dutch East India Company
    36. City of Light
    37. Population Growth
    38. Gateway to Africa
    39- Bushido
    40. Druidic Lore
    41. Sprit of Adwa
    42. Manifest destiny
    43. Mongol terror


    The Mongols are the best and the worst. They have the besy UU and the worst UA. And a Unique GP
     
  19. Pythakoreas

    Pythakoreas Chef Tain

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    Wait, how on earth did Hellenic Fricking League make it into the top 5??? It's one of the very worst! Would have thought it would have been in the first 10 to go!
     
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