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Unique unit elimination thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Kimiimaro, Apr 24, 2018.

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  1. Mr. Shadows

    Mr. Shadows Nomad of the time streams

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    Cossack (Russia) - 23
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 14 (17-3=14) Land units are generally better than naval units, and I think both the Jong and the Minas Geraes make for a stronger game.
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 35
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 36 (35+1=36) I've gone through my reasons but to reiterate 1. They don't require iron. 2. They can be upgraded to from warriors. 3. They are stronger than the unit they replace. 4. Each of them comes with a chop, which can be used to build reinforcements close to the action.
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 16
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 30
     
  2. KAL_MAD

    KAL_MAD Chieftain

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    Cossack (Russia) - 23 - 3 = 20 They come so late and stronger unit can be unlocked around that time to make them irrelevant
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 35
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 36 + 1 = 37 Cool unit, strong, doesn't need resources, and can repair tiles after taking a city
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 16
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 30
     
  3. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 35
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 38 = 37 + 1. I think it's the best unit. You can upgrade your warriors into these guys so you don't have to hard build them. They don't require any iron, and a lack of iron can really kill your early aggression for other civs. They are also super strong and you can build your army around them. Not needing to use as many builder charges for chops is a really big deal in the classical era. None of the other UUs can really stand up to all of that.
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 13 = 16 - 3. Weakest UU left. They are good for hit and runs but they aren't dominate and won't snowball and win you the game single-handedly unlike some other UUs.
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 30
    Warcart - 39 - Was missing from last few posts
     
  4. Amrunril

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    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 36 (35 +1) The developmental head start this unit provides means a much bigger mid-late game military advantage than any of the actual mid-late game units are able to provide.
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 13
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 27 (30 - 3) People talk up this unit a lot, but personally, as someone who likes the Indian civ overall, I've never been too impressed. The stacking debuff can potentially be incredibly powerful, but the unit's high production cost and low mobility are serious obstacles to achieving that potential.
    Warcart - 39 - Was missing from last few posts
     
  5. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Cossack (Russia) - 17 (20-3) the only one of the remaining that I feel indifferent to when it becomes available.
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 36
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 13
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 41 (40+1) the devastation these can cause....
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria) - 39
     
  6. KayAU

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14 (17 - 3) Arrives fairly late in the game, and although a bit stronger than Cavalry, not game changing in the way some of the other remaining units are. This one should have been eliminated sooner.
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37 (36 + 1) Not as good as Pitati Archers, but deserves a nod none the less. Replaces the Warrior, and is going to give the Aztecs an advantage from the very start. Higher production cost than the Warrior, but with a very significant strength boost to compensate, as well as a potential economical benefit through its ability to generate builders.
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 13
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 41
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria) - 39
     
  7. gozpel

    gozpel Couch-potato (fortified)

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14 (
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 11 (14-3) Land units is what I want boats can do nothing, especially as they are later.
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 13
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 37
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 42 (41+1) Most ridiculous unit in the game, they can handle any situation.
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria) - 39
     
  8. Leathaface

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 11
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 24
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 10 (13 - 3) Doesn't stand out for me, and there are some very strong UU's left.
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 38 (37 + 1) A Knight that doesn't require Iron and heals at the end of every turn? Great unit.
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 42
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria) - 39
     
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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 11
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25 (24 + 1) - The best ship in the game, so deserves the top 10.
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 10
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 38
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 39 (42 - 3) - It's not SO much better than the War-cart or Legion to deserve a runaway lead. Also, a War-cart will eat this one for breakfast in one-on-one. Hope this is a good enough reason :D
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria) - 39
     
  10. Phoenix1595

    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 8 (11-3... At this point, it is about the best of the best, and frankly, nothing about this unit really wows me enough to keep it going over some of the others)
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 10
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 38
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40 (39+1... This archer, when en masse, is simply savage. Even alone, it can hold its own against many of the other units here. At some point, it will probably be nerfed, it is so strong. It deserves the lead)
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria) - 39
     
  11. Eliminator_Sr

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands): 8 - 3 = 5 (Powerful but not available early like the Minas Geraes)
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 38
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 10
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 38
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria): 39 + 1 = 40 (Blitzkrieg warfare in the ancient age - gotta love it!)
     
  12. Mr. Shadows

    Mr. Shadows Nomad of the time streams

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands): 2 (5-3=2) These are good ships, but I'd rather have the Jong's ability to ferry units or the mighty Minas Geraes.
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 37
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39 (38+1=39) These are one of the few units that have the ability to decisively tip the balance of the game, and as such should finish extremely high in the ranks.
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 10
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 38
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria): 40
     
  13. The Highwayman

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands): -1 (2-3) ELIMINATED - As I stated previously, the remaining naval units are good, but not better than the top tier land units.
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38 (37+1) Monty is one of the few AIs I dread seeing in the first few dozen turns. This unit is the reason for said dread.
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 10
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 38
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria): 40
     
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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) – 7 (10-3) --- +5 combat strength within 4 tiles of friendly territory & +10 vs. Civilizations in a golden age stack well with its 55 melee strength. In the end, it’s a light cav unit and its bonuses are situational and/or defensive. Oh yeah, it’s good at pillaging. Why would I want to pillage a place I intend to take over?
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 39 (38+1) --- Comes later than the some of the other UU's with a risk of being overrun before you can build them, but I'm voting another +1 for the potential of the wallop a Mamluk / ChaplainApostle 1-2 combo can provide to the nearest 3 civs.

    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 27
    Warcart (Sumeria): 40
     
  15. Kimiimaro

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    Cossack (Russia) - 14
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) – 7-3=4 - Gotta agree with the post above. I only fight in cities I want to take (unless I'm protecting against enemy invasion, of course), and I don't want to get the place burned and destroyed, so I just don't pillage. Their bonuses just aren't as amazing as the other units here. And their top hats look weird.
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 39
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 27
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 40+1=41 - Very dangerous things. They are available from the very first turn, fast, strong and come at reasonable prize.
     
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    Moderator Action: Another reminder that elimination game threads are not regular discussion threads. You should not post unless you are voting or correcting a vote total. Two non-conforming posts deleted.
     
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    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Cossack (Russia) - 11 (14-3) The weakest out of this selection. Moving after attacking is quite nice though. It's certainly not a bad unit, just not as good as the rest (with the possible exception of the Malon).
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) – 4
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 39
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 40
    Varu (India) - 28 (27+1) Out of my personal Top 5, it is the only one below 30. They are a tad too expensive, but if you manage to get out 3 or 4, they are unstoppable.
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 41
     
  18. Chibisuke

    Chibisuke Warlord

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    Cossack (Russia) - 11
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) – 1 = (4 - 3) It's not as good as what remains on the list.
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 39
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 41 = (40 + 1) Has no real weaknesses or downsides. I would fear a group of these much greater than any other remaining unit at their peak age.
    Varu (India) - 28
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 41
     
  19. NauticalStrike

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    Cossack (Russia) - 8 (11 - 3) I've upvoted these guys before, but they need to disappear now, purely because the horsemen->cav line is just so weak. There's simply too much time between the two. Knights just work better in the long run.
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) 2 (1 + 1) I agree these guys should probably be out very quick, I just think the Cossack is a slightly less useful unit. Insta pillaging a campus, library, and university for (25x2x3) 150 science, getting a heal then a move, etc. It's just so useful, and can absolutely cripple an empire. Bring workers along the warfront to repair any tiles in cities you want to keep. Loyalty mechanics let you get a ton of free heals near cities that flip and you can retake (pillage, flip, recapture, repair, repeat). Decently cheap too.
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 39
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 41 = (40 + 1) Has no real weaknesses or downsides. I would fear a group of these much greater than any other remaining unit at their peak age.
    Varu (India) - 28
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 41
     
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    Cossack (Russia) - 8
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 38 + 1 = 39 Production invested on this unit is never lost
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 29
    Jong (Indonesia) - 25
    Legion (Rome) - 39
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) 2 - 3 = -1 ELIMINATED! I play peacefully with the Mapuche most of time so this unit isn't that helpful or impactful
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 39
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) -16
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 41
    Varu (India) - 28
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 41
     
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