UNIT PREVIEW: Samurai Musketeer

[Dom Pedro II]

utah's thread wasn't the place for this, so I'm moving the discussion to the main forum.

Here is an updated preview of the Japanese Samurai Musketeer...

I've added some civ-colored pants (as requested ), and I've also added a civ-colored rim to the hat.

Further suggestions are welcome...

 

[Al Zan]

that look great!

 

[Amenhotep7]

I'm likin' this so far! Great flavor unit!

 

[embryodead]

add some civ3 proportions to him - fatter/wider arms, legs, feet.

 

[Steph]

Looking good! I'm definetly waiting for him to put in Steph's mod

 

[Yoda Power]

Looks nice

but what makes it samurai?

 

[embryodead]

the hat! it's a samurai hat, isn't it?

 

[Steph]

The name of the guy is Samuel Urai, Sam Urai for short

 

[Yoda Power]

Well nomather what the guys name is, I think it should just be japanese musket man.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Yeah, its not really a samurai, but thats the tenative title. It's probably a peasant rifleman more likely than not. (And its my unit and I dunno)

Btw, embryodead, I've shortened the fellow, fattened the legs, arms, and gun.

 

[Kal-el]

I think it would be an Ashigaru Rifleman since the Ashigaru made up the bulk of the Japanese Army.

I am sure he appreciates the pants. Nothing quite as em-bare-assing as running off to war without your knickers on.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Well, a samurai is anyone who serves in an army so it could be a samurai, even the peasants became samurai during wars "Ashigaru" they mostly fought with Yari(spears) but later were equipped with Muskets from western traders. (samurai fact 12009)

If you were going to call him something I would say "Ashigaru Musketeer"

 

[Kal-el]

I think we could use an Ahigaru Musketman and Rifleman, though the Rifleman would probably have a more European Style uniform.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

The Japanese Rifle man (Which I have been looking for my mod ><) Is after Japan had opened its borders and was trying to westernize. They wore black uniforms with white from the knee down and caps. The were usually armed with a rifle almost as big as them with a bayonet on it. and most had a western style saber (like armies in the civil war) though some used a katana. If you have seen the previews for "the last samurai) the show what I am talking about, that uniform almost went unchanged until the 1920s.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Shiro, I am assuming that you are referring to the uniforms adopted after the Meiji Restoration. As such below?

I'm hoping *fingers crossed* that some cut and paster will take the Rifleman and make a Japanese unit.

This is supposed to be before that but sometime after the Oda Arquebusier using weapons more advanced than the arquebus, but not before breech-loaders.

This unit has a certain bit of fiction in it because the Japanese didn't have such organized musket units, and the forces who fought in the Japanese Civil War were using some weapons that had been brought by the Portuguese... as in the case of Korea when the Americans invaded in 1871. They found one cannon there from the 1300s. So there is a bit of fiction, but no more fictional than the Japanese using armies full of generic musketeers and carbine-weilding cavalry as it would be without this unit.

I'm thinking of making a samurai gunpowder cavalry unit along with this that I may release as a package. This current unit could be done very shortly... I've got to procure some Horse armor that I have lying abouts somewhere that I must find.

(I haven't full moved all of my files into this computer).

 

[ShiroKobbure]

I see, I asumed that the unit was more from the sangokudai, I was refering to Kal-el's comment about rifle man, my comment about your unit is posted above his. Also I am looking for russo-japanese war/japanese ww1 units ><

 

[Kal-el]

Yes, this unit would fill the Musketman role and If we could get a Rifleman like that pictured above, though that looks more turn of the century to me, that would be most excellent.

 

[Steph]

Most excellent indeed

 

[ShiroKobbure]

*drool* yes
I need those units for my mod

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Yes, this unit would fill the Musketman role and If we could get a Rifleman like that pictured above, though that looks more turn of the century to me, that would be most excellent.

I thought the Oda Arquebusier was filling the Musketman role?