United States and a "Union"
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Zarn
Le Républicain Catholique
Or how about we united all the Americas and Britain, and Australia, and call it Oceania? We could even have an Ingsoc.
This is a clear example of why Anglicization is pure evil.
We are to big as it is. Our infrastructure is falling apart, we can't even get decent internet access to 30% of the population. Who are we going to 'union' with? Canada? We just take all there resources. Mexico? We have enough problems as it is.
Elta
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I think Canada would produce some third partys (I'd hope so anyway)
Mexico would go 70/30 republican/democrat PAN and PRI would get Republican and PRD would go Democrat ...... PRI is more like Republican/Green or than that thou those three partys seem to be just like the american ones.
jeps
Arcadefire
I think Canada would produce some third partys
Third parties no. Third language yes.
The largest canadian party in a union would be the CANADIAN INDEPENDCE PARTY, or Le Bloc Canadien.
Third parties no. Third language yes.
The largest canadian party in a union would be the CANADIAN INDEPENDCE PARTY, or Le Bloc Canadien.
Ansar
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And what exactly would this third language be?
Irish Caesar
Yellow Jacket
And what exactly would this third language be?
French, probably.
Nah, the American Independence Party would get more votes; we have a lot more population.
Ah, never mind... you're just talking about Canadian parties.
Ansar
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EDIT: Nevermind...
Um, we can and would absolutely be able to get 100% internet coverage if it was the government's responsibility to do so. However, in this free(er) market nation, the people in the boonies have to be willing to fork over the higher bucks if they want high speed. If they just want dial-up, they can stay where they are.
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Arcadefire
you have spanish and english as the MAIN languages in the US, (not official since you have none)
In Canada we have english and french
ENGLISH + SPANISH +ENGLISH + FRENCH
cross out the redundant
and get
English, Spanish, and French
In Canada we have english and french
ENGLISH + SPANISH +
cross out the redundant
and get
English, Spanish, and French
Irish Caesar
Yellow Jacket
Huh?
I'm not sure what you're asking, then; in a North American Union, Canada would come speaking mostly English, but many Quebecois would speak French, adding a third language to the English and Spanish already spoken in the United States and Mexico.
I'm not sure if that's quite what the post was saying, but that's how I interpreted it... j_eps? Am I close?
Ansar
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Yes, my bad.
I was confused and was thinking some of you were talking about Canada only, so I thought if English and French were already official languages, why would there need to be a third language (and didn't think of Spanish because there aren't many hispanics in Canada, AFAIK).
Basically, I confused myself.
Sorry
A question to Irish Caesar, though: Why would we make a union with Mexico? How would it benefit us? What I assume would be done would just be a union with Canada.
I was confused and was thinking some of you were talking about Canada only, so I thought if English and French were already official languages, why would there need to be a third language (and didn't think of Spanish because there aren't many hispanics in Canada, AFAIK).
Basically, I confused myself.
Sorry
A question to Irish Caesar, though: Why would we make a union with Mexico? How would it benefit us? What I assume would be done would just be a union with Canada.
Irish Caesar
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I wouldn't; I wouldn't make one with Canada, either. But Elta's post hypothesized how Mexico would vote in American elections, and the rest of this confusion stemmed from all of us crossposting stuff before we read it and whatnot...
So I don't know what the OP said about Mexico joining us, but there was reference to it earlier on this page.
Of course, combining with a country with a lower standard of living and/or weaker economy would not benefit the US, and the people wouldn't go for it... so that rules Mexico out.
And I think there'd be so much hassle joining the US and Canada, between streamlining the governments and bureaucratic systems native to each, that it would be more than silly.
On the other hand, USA/Canada would be home to the world's largest community of polar bears, right? And they're wicked awesome.
Elta
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Yeah I think Mexico would need a GDP of at least 1/2 of the U.S. it is like 1/4th right now. All thou I think at 1/2 no one would immigrate here anyways since sending half your pay check from a low paying job here to your family in Mexico could not support them.
Which would be a good thing since if Mexico joined us it would need to be a situation like Canada right now*. People from both side go back and fourth. If you get a job offer in one country or another it is no big deal etc. The situation would be too hectic right now.
* I know there are a million Americans living in Mexico right now and 50% of them are not of Mexican descent ( lots of retired persons maybe 100k workers) but, I still doubt it is up with the cross movement numbers of U.S.-Canada
Elta
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For the record when I say Union what I have in mind is.
Single currency and central bank
Free movement of people and goods
One standered for tariff (coming from other places obviously since we would not tariff each other at all)
Having Mexico join Norad and NATO
Resident alienship for non citizens in other member nations
Meaning like lets say I move to Canada and live there - pay taxes get government services etc etc but, I don't become a citizen so I can't vote and I can get deported for committing a serious crime ( and banned from Canada)
In the U.S. you become a resident alien when you marry a citizen but not a citizen your self unless you go through all of the stuff.
** not a double post I thought of this stuff way later.
Single currency and central bank
Free movement of people and goods
One standered for tariff (coming from other places obviously since we would not tariff each other at all)
Having Mexico join Norad and NATO
Resident alienship for non citizens in other member nations
Meaning like lets say I move to Canada and live there - pay taxes get government services etc etc but, I don't become a citizen so I can't vote and I can get deported for committing a serious crime ( and banned from Canada)
In the U.S. you become a resident alien when you marry a citizen but not a citizen your self unless you go through all of the stuff.
** not a double post I thought of this stuff way later.
Ansar
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Well, how could we just say: "Ok, Canada, let's work together, but leave Quebec out, allright?
"And this is where it would come to a screeching halt for Canada.
The sad state of the US dollar and defecit is not exactly something we wish to be burdened with, and since our influence on a central bank would be minimal our distinctly different economic needs (resource based) would be overshadowed by those of the US (manf based), monetary policy would not fit for our needs.
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