US troops donate more to Obama than McCain

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US troops, stationed both abroad and in the US, have donated more money to Democrat Barack Obama than to decorated war hero Republican John McCain, a study published Thursday showed.

The study by the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan research group, showed that by the end of June, Obama had received six times more from soldiers stationed abroad than Vietnam war veteran McCain, who comes from a prestigious military family.

Even McCain's former rival for the Republican nomination, Ron Paul, who opposed the Iraq war, had managed to garner more funds.



Obama had received some 60,642 dollars in donations from soldiers stationed abroad, while McCain had just 10,665 dollars, the study said.

Paul, who failed early in the Republican primaries to attract as much support as McCain, was given some 45,512 dollars for his campaign.

Across all troops, Obama's campaign also attracted more funding than his rivals, bringing in some 335,000 dollars compared to 280,000 for McCain. Only in the Marine Corps is McCain leading Obama, by some 4,000 dollars.

"That's shocking," Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of California who studies the military, told the center.

"The academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean slightly Republican and some who say it's about equal, but no one would point to six-to-one" in Democrats' favor.

"That represents a tremendous shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans."

But Jason Dempsey, a former professor at the West Point military academy, said that the number of individual donations, just 323, was too small to draw any conclusions.

"If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says (his tour has been extended) from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger," he said. "Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately."

Obama has said that if elected to the White House he would withdraw most troops from Iraq within 16 months. McCain, who supports the war, says the US needs to remain on the ground until their work is done and has resisted setting any timetable for a pullout.

The center also stressed that it had only totaled up donations of 200 dollars or more, which meant the study was probably more reflective of thinking among ranking officers.


I'm surprised, but I believe it.




LOL and here's the original thread that states the same information http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=287221
 
1.) This thread is maybe the twentieth repeat. (as you have learned :) )

2.) Please read your sources. Troops overwhelming donated to Republcans over Democrats, but they prefered Ron Paul to McCain. That in no way insinuates they like Obama more than McCain. Ron Paul dropped out, but you can't take your money back after the fact.
 
I'm surprised, but I believe it.

I am not so surprised, but will simply add that you can dress up such information to mean anything you want.

And while the vast majority of military members do indeed vote republican (and I am willing to bet they will again this year), thats not so clear cut among the demograph of military members with money....i.e. the officer corps.

From my personal experience, a much larger slice of the officer corps are democrat or tend to view political issues from the left side of the aisle. Bear in mind these are also the people in the military who actually make enough money and would be willing to donate. Very few enlisted would actually go to the trouble to donate 200 bucks to a political campaign. Hell, I consider myself fairly political and I have never donated over 25 bucks to any campaign, and I make decent money as a senior NCO with well over 20 years in.

If people are expecting the military to vote for Obama along 60-40 lines, they are going to be seriously disappointed. :lol:
 
If the officers make more money then the enlisted, I thought they would lean more Republican.
 
Simply the fact that Obama supporters tend to be rather "enthusiastic" about their candidate would seem to explain this. I mean, he's raised an extremely impressive amount of cash from a pool of passionate supporters across all walks of life; I don't see why his advocates in the military would be any less willing to donate than those in other industries. My question is whether the rabidness of his fans is turning off the unconverted and causing a backlash against Obama? I get the sense that it is and it leads me to believe the Democrats may once again find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (and then spend the next 4 to 8 years crying about it).
 
If people are expecting the military to vote for Obama along 60-40 lines, they are going to be seriously disappointed. :lol:

When General Petraeus was asked about Democrates in the Military. He responded by grinning and saying theres a lot more of us then you think.

:lol:

EDIT: "Why dose Gen Petraeus hate the troops?"
 
The amount of the money someone has isnt what makes them a dem or a republican.
I thought people who makes more money are more inclined to be a republican. Mainly because the Republican Party tend to favor low taxes. :hmm:
 
Sam Walton's kids and Malcolm Forbes' spawn went GOP. Those that made it on their own like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, not so GOP.
 
Sam Walton's kids and Malcolm Forbes' spawn went GOP. Those that made it on their own like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, not so GOP.

Was Sam Walton a democrat? Or Malcolm Forbes?
 
I thought people who makes more money are more inclined to be a republican. Mainly because the Republican Party tend to favor low taxes. :hmm:

This isn't necessarily true. A logical conclusion would say that it is. It is more true to say that more poorer people are Democrat because they like social programs - poor people and Democrats alike.

Neither statement is completely true, however. Drawing truths in voting patterns is often hard. Unless you're dealing with Minorities.
 
I also want to point out that this only includes contributions over $200, and enlisted men (who aren't paid as well) are more likely to be Democrats than officers, so the difference between Obama and McCain's receipts from soldiers is probably greater than this article suggests.
 
I also want to point out that this only includes contributions over $200, and enlisted men (who aren't paid as well) are more likely to be Democrats than officers, so the difference between Obama and McCain's receipts from soldiers is probably greater than this article suggests.

Sims, the opposite is true. Enlisted guys are more apt to be conservative than commissioned officers.

Thats why you might have a situation where more money is donated to Obama, but far more votes are cast republican.

The military is going to vote overwelmingly for McCain. Count on it.
 
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