Armenia used to be called Urartu, a powerful ancient kingdom. Tigranes, the greatest leader of Ancient/Classical Era Armenia, was truly a great leader. Turks might not approve of Armenia being in the game, so what? Armenians truly deserve their place in the Annals of Civilization (hey, they built cities, actual cities...Iroquois-and other Tribes-so called Civilizations, be ware!)
Poland used to be one of the largest and most powerful kingdoms (officially a Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth, although Polish was the official language, Lithuanian was obscure) of Medieval and Renaissance Eras. Polish Commonwealth created a unique and fascinating culture/civilization. Poland more than deserves its place in the game, however, it's ruler should be a male (was a male dominant nation, just like Rome, or America), I'd suggest the return to Casimir/Kazimierz (the great), Jagiello/Jogaila (the pagan husband/turned devout Catholic, Lithuanian prince and husband of Jadwiga), or Jan III Sobieski (a great Winged Hussar king/leader) or Jozef Pilsudski (ulan cavalry) - one who rebuilt Poland after WWI).
BYZANTIUM!!! one of the finest Civilizations of all time! and not a tribe-which never constructed a single city, like some of those taking precedence in the game. Byzantium mixed in Roman and Greek cultures as well as Christian (orthodox) religion, and became one of the great superpowers of the world for centuries. It was a cultured, scientific, spiritual, commercial and seafaring empire, one of its kind, and its military was superb! It carried on the tradition of Rome, and though became Greek-speaker dominant, it maintained its course as one of the greatest empires ever! It's leaders should be: Constantine (the great), Justinian, Justin (no consorts please)
Hungary - a very original Civilization, not Indo-European speakers at all, at first a very Aggressive (horse) warrior tribe. They conquered the lands of Panonian Slavians, in what is today Hungary. They were originally known as aggressive and warlike, and good at their craft. To sustain their existence in the lands they conquered, the Magyars (more realistic name of Hungarians), adopted Christianity and became a powerful regional state in Central/East Europe. Their History is fascinating, definitely a civilization worth adding into the game.
Ukraine/Kiyevan Rus' - This is a very interesting Civilization, with long history. It began as a mixture of Viking//Varang conquest of Slavian lands and the establishment of the capital city, Kyiv/Kiyev/Kiev. The conversion to Byzantine/Orthodox Christianity, for this mixture of Slavic and Scandinavian cultures, a new step towards its destiny. During the reign of VLADIMIR (the great), Kiyevan Rus' became a large and powerful Tzarate, however, after his death, it disintegrated into several small city-states, conquered, one by one, by Poland and Moscow(Muscovy). Ukraine would be a great addition to the game, especially if including their fierce infantry, the Zaporosski Kossacks.
Bulgaria - was a nomad, non-slavic nation originally. Having conquered the lands of the Slavians, they welcomed the Slavic culture they'd just conquered as their own, named their kings Tzars. Bulgarians were some of the fiercest opponents of Byzantium. Bulgaria later built a strong country in the Balkans, only felled by the might of the Ottoman Turks.
Yugoslavia (or at least Serbia-most powerful of the former Yugoslav states) Most likely will never make it in. Tito was a great leader though.
Thracia/Thrace - capital SEUTHOPOLIS, also known (later) as Odrysian Kingdom (after the king Odrysseus). A militaristic and Agricultural tribe, made out of clans, similarly to Scotland, tough to make a Civ out of them, but they contributed their share to the history of Human Civilization of Antiquity (most of Greek slaves-in the ancient era-were in fact, captured Thracians).
Georgia/Colchis - very ancient and very deserving to be in the game.
Romania/Walachia/Dacia - Dacians were some of the fiercest enemies of ancient Rome (till conquered). Walachia was an important medieval state in Easter Europe/till it fell, similarly to Moldavia. Romania is an original Civ, with an original and controversial, potential leader.
Czechs/Bohemia- Czech people are some of the toughest of all of Europe. They are a Slavian, Mountainous Terrain nation. They value their freedom and original and rich history. These guys were there for hundreds of year, in Central/Eastern Europe, always a factor, even when under Austrian/German yoke. Czech beer is some of the finest in the world.
Austria (Central Europe) - Austria needs to be back in! Was a major power during the Renaissance and Industrial (and early Modern) Eras in Europe (Central and Eastern).
Tatars (Crimean) - deserve a look.
Khazaria - not sure if qualify, because of geography, nonetheless, a worthy and original civ.
Lithuania- if Poland is in, then Lithuania, although not a Slavic nation, will most likely never make it, too bad.
PRUSSIA - a militaristic and cultural state, Germanic, although originally Baltic (like Lithuanians), these guys deserve to be in the game. One of their uniques could be the Teutonic Knight.
Ottomans/Turkey - definitely should be included.
Minoans - One of the oldest known Civilizations, thought to give birth to the Mycenaean Culture of Ancient Greece. Minoans deserve to be in, with King Minos as leader of course, there are enough city names available to introduce it as one of the Civs.
Macedonia - With 2 Leaders: Alexander (the great) and his father, Phillip (II). Unfortunately always represented as Greeks, Macedonians were an original and fascinating culture, with the capital of Pella. They fought differently than lower (mainland) Greeks, used Companion cavalry, and the Sarissophoros-similar to the hoplite but with longer and heavier-held in both hands-spears.
Macedonian war tactics (and units) were superior to the Greek ones, and after conquering parts of Greece, they united the country (for the most part) and unleashed an offensive against the mightiest of known empires-Persia, and the rest is well known to all. Macedonia should be a Militaristic Civ, advancing decently culturalry.
Wends - Western Slavic tribes, the Wends were the most advanced Slavic tribes (and most Warlike) of them all. They lived between the Oder (Odra) and Labe (Laba-in Slavic) rivers, in what is today Germany. They were conquered by the Franks and later Germans (Saxons), gradually, and either wiped out or assimilated into the German culture. Wends were devout Slavic Polytheists, a Spiritual, AGRICULTURAL, and very warlike nation (similar to the Celts). They raided the lands of their western (Christian) neighbours, and traded with them as well, they even raided the Vikings themselves (with much success). In the end though, they fought against each other as much as against common enemies, sooner or later, their end had to come.
I think I ran out, gosh! there are more options though, if you consider the nations of Asia Minor as part of this thread, I could go on, or perhaps Finland?
Poland used to be one of the largest and most powerful kingdoms (officially a Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth, although Polish was the official language, Lithuanian was obscure) of Medieval and Renaissance Eras. Polish Commonwealth created a unique and fascinating culture/civilization. Poland more than deserves its place in the game, however, it's ruler should be a male (was a male dominant nation, just like Rome, or America), I'd suggest the return to Casimir/Kazimierz (the great), Jagiello/Jogaila (the pagan husband/turned devout Catholic, Lithuanian prince and husband of Jadwiga), or Jan III Sobieski (a great Winged Hussar king/leader) or Jozef Pilsudski (ulan cavalry) - one who rebuilt Poland after WWI).
BYZANTIUM!!! one of the finest Civilizations of all time! and not a tribe-which never constructed a single city, like some of those taking precedence in the game. Byzantium mixed in Roman and Greek cultures as well as Christian (orthodox) religion, and became one of the great superpowers of the world for centuries. It was a cultured, scientific, spiritual, commercial and seafaring empire, one of its kind, and its military was superb! It carried on the tradition of Rome, and though became Greek-speaker dominant, it maintained its course as one of the greatest empires ever! It's leaders should be: Constantine (the great), Justinian, Justin (no consorts please)
Hungary - a very original Civilization, not Indo-European speakers at all, at first a very Aggressive (horse) warrior tribe. They conquered the lands of Panonian Slavians, in what is today Hungary. They were originally known as aggressive and warlike, and good at their craft. To sustain their existence in the lands they conquered, the Magyars (more realistic name of Hungarians), adopted Christianity and became a powerful regional state in Central/East Europe. Their History is fascinating, definitely a civilization worth adding into the game.
Ukraine/Kiyevan Rus' - This is a very interesting Civilization, with long history. It began as a mixture of Viking//Varang conquest of Slavian lands and the establishment of the capital city, Kyiv/Kiyev/Kiev. The conversion to Byzantine/Orthodox Christianity, for this mixture of Slavic and Scandinavian cultures, a new step towards its destiny. During the reign of VLADIMIR (the great), Kiyevan Rus' became a large and powerful Tzarate, however, after his death, it disintegrated into several small city-states, conquered, one by one, by Poland and Moscow(Muscovy). Ukraine would be a great addition to the game, especially if including their fierce infantry, the Zaporosski Kossacks.
Bulgaria - was a nomad, non-slavic nation originally. Having conquered the lands of the Slavians, they welcomed the Slavic culture they'd just conquered as their own, named their kings Tzars. Bulgarians were some of the fiercest opponents of Byzantium. Bulgaria later built a strong country in the Balkans, only felled by the might of the Ottoman Turks.
Yugoslavia (or at least Serbia-most powerful of the former Yugoslav states) Most likely will never make it in. Tito was a great leader though.
Thracia/Thrace - capital SEUTHOPOLIS, also known (later) as Odrysian Kingdom (after the king Odrysseus). A militaristic and Agricultural tribe, made out of clans, similarly to Scotland, tough to make a Civ out of them, but they contributed their share to the history of Human Civilization of Antiquity (most of Greek slaves-in the ancient era-were in fact, captured Thracians).
Georgia/Colchis - very ancient and very deserving to be in the game.
Romania/Walachia/Dacia - Dacians were some of the fiercest enemies of ancient Rome (till conquered). Walachia was an important medieval state in Easter Europe/till it fell, similarly to Moldavia. Romania is an original Civ, with an original and controversial, potential leader.
Czechs/Bohemia- Czech people are some of the toughest of all of Europe. They are a Slavian, Mountainous Terrain nation. They value their freedom and original and rich history. These guys were there for hundreds of year, in Central/Eastern Europe, always a factor, even when under Austrian/German yoke. Czech beer is some of the finest in the world.
Austria (Central Europe) - Austria needs to be back in! Was a major power during the Renaissance and Industrial (and early Modern) Eras in Europe (Central and Eastern).
Tatars (Crimean) - deserve a look.
Khazaria - not sure if qualify, because of geography, nonetheless, a worthy and original civ.
Lithuania- if Poland is in, then Lithuania, although not a Slavic nation, will most likely never make it, too bad.
PRUSSIA - a militaristic and cultural state, Germanic, although originally Baltic (like Lithuanians), these guys deserve to be in the game. One of their uniques could be the Teutonic Knight.
Ottomans/Turkey - definitely should be included.
Minoans - One of the oldest known Civilizations, thought to give birth to the Mycenaean Culture of Ancient Greece. Minoans deserve to be in, with King Minos as leader of course, there are enough city names available to introduce it as one of the Civs.
Macedonia - With 2 Leaders: Alexander (the great) and his father, Phillip (II). Unfortunately always represented as Greeks, Macedonians were an original and fascinating culture, with the capital of Pella. They fought differently than lower (mainland) Greeks, used Companion cavalry, and the Sarissophoros-similar to the hoplite but with longer and heavier-held in both hands-spears.
Macedonian war tactics (and units) were superior to the Greek ones, and after conquering parts of Greece, they united the country (for the most part) and unleashed an offensive against the mightiest of known empires-Persia, and the rest is well known to all. Macedonia should be a Militaristic Civ, advancing decently culturalry.
Wends - Western Slavic tribes, the Wends were the most advanced Slavic tribes (and most Warlike) of them all. They lived between the Oder (Odra) and Labe (Laba-in Slavic) rivers, in what is today Germany. They were conquered by the Franks and later Germans (Saxons), gradually, and either wiped out or assimilated into the German culture. Wends were devout Slavic Polytheists, a Spiritual, AGRICULTURAL, and very warlike nation (similar to the Celts). They raided the lands of their western (Christian) neighbours, and traded with them as well, they even raided the Vikings themselves (with much success). In the end though, they fought against each other as much as against common enemies, sooner or later, their end had to come.
I think I ran out, gosh! there are more options though, if you consider the nations of Asia Minor as part of this thread, I could go on, or perhaps Finland?
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If Alexander must return (I got a little bored of him in Civ5), I don't see any reason not to make him a third leader for Greece.
