VQ03 - Resource Collectors
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Maquis
King
Nope... any city we capture (or settle ourselves) must provide us with a new resource.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
IIRC, Alexandria has cows that we don't current have (hooked up).
oldbustedjorn
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It would be nice to take, but only if we can do it win less than 10 turns IMO. After that its too costly, especially if war weariness is setting in heavy...
bobrath
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Hatty's original offer of peace was 20g. I renogitiated that to 10g + 1gpt. So we're better off taking peace with her for a bit. Lets get our tech percentage back in order. Renewing the attack on Hatty too soon only means we'll be further behind the other AIs.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
bobrath said:
... I don't think it works this way. AFAIK, once the 10 turns is up, the 1gpt would automatically be cancelled as well.-
Well once the 10 turns of peace is up and I have enough units I would declare war. I would like to set up two stacks one to take out Alexandria and one for Thebes. I'm not sure if Egypt has any more cities but with those two gone I think Egypt would be a nonfactor for the entire game. With the two stacks we should take care of Egypt quickly so war weariness won't be a problem.
I will also see what I can do about the economy and get it going in the right direction. If I use the great prophet for a shrine in Alexandria that should help our economy. We should be thankful that Egypt was willing two give us two holy cities
. Thank you Hatty! 
Maybe next game we should leave Hatty alone, we've been picking on her too much.
I will also see what I can do about the economy and get it going in the right direction. If I use the great prophet for a shrine in Alexandria that should help our economy. We should be thankful that Egypt was willing two give us two holy cities
. Thank you Hatty! Maybe next game we should leave Hatty alone, we've been picking on her too much.
bobrath
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I'm not 100% sure that Hatty doesn't have a third city off west OR has sent out some fishing village somewhere. IF we can't wipe her out totally, then we'll still have unhappy citizens wanting to rejoing their motherland.
If you're going to produce more units, I'd highly suggest getting into theocracy (and as such using the GP for Theology). That extra exp will make a huge difference. Sure we wouldn't have a shrine right away, but I don't know that Taoism has spread enough to bring in much gold. Check the religion screen to see if it has spread at all.
If you're going to produce more units, I'd highly suggest getting into theocracy (and as such using the GP for Theology). That extra exp will make a huge difference. Sure we wouldn't have a shrine right away, but I don't know that Taoism has spread enough to bring in much gold. Check the religion screen to see if it has spread at all.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
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Preturn: 1100 AD
Looked around and saw we were pretty behind in techs. I decided we need to strengthen our economy before we continue with our war on Egypt.
I traded Literature and Drama for Code of Laws and 10g. I did this with Catherine since she had the lowest score.
I traded Drama for Monarchy with Mansa.
Taoism isn’t spread out at all just 4% of the world so I decided to use the GP for theology so I can switch to theocracy after the courthouses are done.
Discovered Theology.
Turn 1: 1110 AD
Great Lighthouse built far away.
Turn 2: 1120 AD
150 gold was salvaged from the production put into the Great Lighthouse.
Turn 3: 1130 AD
Decided to turn up the research slider to take advantage of the new gold we got.
Turn 6: 1160 AD
Currency discovered. I chose to go for Civil Service, because irrigation and bureaucracy will help our economy and macemen will be a nice military unit for our next war.
Clams reconnected.
Turn 7: 1170 AD
I just noticed we have a grand total of two workers. We need to build more of them our lands aren’t very developed. I decided the courthouses were more important at this time, so after them, we could build some more workers.
Turn 8: 1180 AD
Peace expired with Egypt.
Turn 9: 1190 AD
Japanese asked to cancel trades with Americans. Even though the Americans might be our next target, we are still on better terms with Americans than Toka and nobody really likes him anyways.
Notre Dame built.
Afterturn Comments:
We are behind 6 techs from everyone except Japanese. We need more workers too.
Edit: I forgot the autolog ... here it is
Looked around and saw we were pretty behind in techs. I decided we need to strengthen our economy before we continue with our war on Egypt.
I traded Literature and Drama for Code of Laws and 10g. I did this with Catherine since she had the lowest score.
I traded Drama for Monarchy with Mansa.
Taoism isn’t spread out at all just 4% of the world so I decided to use the GP for theology so I can switch to theocracy after the courthouses are done.
Discovered Theology.
Turn 1: 1110 AD
Great Lighthouse built far away.
Turn 2: 1120 AD
150 gold was salvaged from the production put into the Great Lighthouse.
Turn 3: 1130 AD
Decided to turn up the research slider to take advantage of the new gold we got.
Turn 6: 1160 AD
Currency discovered. I chose to go for Civil Service, because irrigation and bureaucracy will help our economy and macemen will be a nice military unit for our next war.
Clams reconnected.
Turn 7: 1170 AD
I just noticed we have a grand total of two workers. We need to build more of them our lands aren’t very developed. I decided the courthouses were more important at this time, so after them, we could build some more workers.
Turn 8: 1180 AD
Peace expired with Egypt.
Turn 9: 1190 AD
Japanese asked to cancel trades with Americans. Even though the Americans might be our next target, we are still on better terms with Americans than Toka and nobody really likes him anyways.
Notre Dame built.
Afterturn Comments:
We are behind 6 techs from everyone except Japanese. We need more workers too.
Edit: I forgot the autolog ... here it is
Spoiler :
GreyFox
Make it so ...
we will have to trade more to catch up ... trading with only one AI does not help us in catching up ... we must cross trade with at least 2 to play catch up.
good job getting the Notre Dame built ... +1
should be pretty useful ... esp. if we use the 
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good job getting the Notre Dame built ... +1
should be pretty useful ... esp. if we use the !-
Maquis
King
Good turns. I agree we need to do some catch-up before we go off warring again.
Roster:
player 1: Maquis --- on deck
player 2: Greyfox ---
player 3: bobrath ---
player 4: eektor --- Just played
player 5: sozopol --- Up
Roster:
player 1: Maquis --- on deck
player 2: Greyfox ---
player 3: bobrath ---
player 4: eektor --- Just played
player 5: sozopol --- Up
Well, I played. I wish I had nice cheery report full of good news...
Things were going well through the first 8 turns; I had gotten the economy back on track somewhat, from -7 gpt at 60% research, to breaking even at 70%. I a few courthouses along the way, and am building markets and libraries. Built some temples too, because they are so cheap for us creative types (two turns usually).
When Civil Service came in, I chose to research Feudalism, thinking that Vassalage and Longbowmen would come in useful in a few more turns when we went back to war.
Then, in my ninth turn, TOKU DECLARES WAR ON US AND HIS TROOPS COME ROLLING IN TOWARDS HELIO AND PI-RAM.
His troops are mostly horse archers, axemen, spearmen, so the threat is in numbers and placement rather than tech level. That big stack of his north of P-Ram is something like 4 horse archers, 4 axemen and a spear. The stack of 3 directly north of P-Ram does include a cat.
We've got 4 units in Helio, a few in P-Ram and 5 (swords and cats) a turn or two away from Helio, coming from Memphis.
The save is in mid-turn (my tenth), because I figured I'd leave the troop movements to the next player, who'll be fighting this war.
Maybe we could talk our buddy FDR into helping us out?
Also, we can build the Epics, the Sistine Chapel... didn't start them anywhere yet.
Turn 181 (1210 AD)
Pasargadae grows: 12
Heliopolis finishes: Courthouse
Arbela finishes: Jewish Temple
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Christian Temple
Islam founded in a distant land
Turn 182 (1220 AD)
Heliopolis begins: Market
Arbela begins: Courthouse
Persepolis grows: 12
Arbela grows: 8
Turn 183 (1230 AD)
Pi-Ramesses grows: 4
Turn 184 (1240 AD)
Tech learned: Civil Service
Persepolis finishes: Market
Susa finishes: Courthouse
Turn 185 (1250 AD)
Research begun: Feudalism
Persepolis begins: Theatre
Susa begins: Market
Heliopolis begins: Theatre
Arbela finishes: Courthouse
Memphis finishes: Courthouse
Turn 186 (1260 AD)
Arbela begins: Library
Memphis begins: Library
Persepolis finishes: Theatre
Pasargadae finishes: Courthouse
Heliopolis grows: 12
Heliopolis finishes: Theatre
Memphis's borders expand
Turn 187 (1270 AD)
Persepolis begins: Colosseum
Pasargadae begins: Market
Heliopolis begins: Colosseum
Susa's borders expand
Arbela grows: 5
Turn 188 (1280 AD)
Persepolis finishes: Colosseum
Memphis grows: 4
IBT
Tokugawa declares war on Persia!
Turn 189 (1290 AD)
Persepolis begins: Catapult
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Swordsman promoted: Combat I
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Swordsman
Turn 190 (1300 AD)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Catapult
edit: adding that one of the Japanese units is sitting on top of our GEM MINE! I'm sure they will pillage if they are not eliminated this turn.
. Also adding that Feudalism is due in 2 turns.
Things were going well through the first 8 turns; I had gotten the economy back on track somewhat, from -7 gpt at 60% research, to breaking even at 70%. I
a few courthouses along the way, and am building markets and libraries. Built some temples too, because they are so cheap for us creative types (two turns usually).When Civil Service came in, I chose to research Feudalism, thinking that Vassalage and Longbowmen would come in useful in a few more turns when we went back to war.
Then, in my ninth turn, TOKU DECLARES WAR ON US AND HIS TROOPS COME ROLLING IN TOWARDS HELIO AND PI-RAM.
His troops are mostly horse archers, axemen, spearmen, so the threat is in numbers and placement rather than tech level. That big stack of his north of P-Ram is something like 4 horse archers, 4 axemen and a spear. The stack of 3 directly north of P-Ram does include a cat.
We've got 4 units in Helio, a few in P-Ram and 5 (swords and cats) a turn or two away from Helio, coming from Memphis.
The save is in mid-turn (my tenth), because I figured I'd leave the troop movements to the next player, who'll be fighting this war.
Maybe we could talk our buddy FDR into helping us out?
Also, we can build the Epics, the Sistine Chapel... didn't start them anywhere yet.
Turn 181 (1210 AD)
Pasargadae grows: 12
Heliopolis finishes: Courthouse
Arbela finishes: Jewish Temple
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Christian Temple
Islam founded in a distant land
Turn 182 (1220 AD)
Heliopolis begins: Market
Arbela begins: Courthouse
Persepolis grows: 12
Arbela grows: 8
Turn 183 (1230 AD)
Pi-Ramesses grows: 4
Turn 184 (1240 AD)
Tech learned: Civil Service
Persepolis finishes: Market
Susa finishes: Courthouse
Turn 185 (1250 AD)
Research begun: Feudalism
Persepolis begins: Theatre
Susa begins: Market
Heliopolis begins: Theatre
Arbela finishes: Courthouse
Memphis finishes: Courthouse
Turn 186 (1260 AD)
Arbela begins: Library
Memphis begins: Library
Persepolis finishes: Theatre
Pasargadae finishes: Courthouse
Heliopolis grows: 12
Heliopolis finishes: Theatre
Memphis's borders expand
Turn 187 (1270 AD)
Persepolis begins: Colosseum
Pasargadae begins: Market
Heliopolis begins: Colosseum
Susa's borders expand
Arbela grows: 5
Turn 188 (1280 AD)
Persepolis finishes: Colosseum
Memphis grows: 4
IBT
Tokugawa declares war on Persia!
Turn 189 (1290 AD)
Persepolis begins: Catapult
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Catapult promoted: Barrage I
Swordsman promoted: Combat I
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Swordsman
Turn 190 (1300 AD)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Catapult
edit: adding that one of the Japanese units is sitting on top of our GEM MINE! I'm sure they will pillage if they are not eliminated this turn.
. Also adding that Feudalism is due in 2 turns.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
war! Good job building cataput and giving them the promotions, that should soften the Japs a bit.Toku has chosen unwisely (TM)
....Teach him a lesson, Maquis!
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