VQ04 - Revenge!

Sure, I can prem-swap. I'll try to play my turns tonight.

Hmmm... looks like I'll finally get a taste of the revenge. Do you realize this is my first turnset where we are actually at war! :eek:
 
Sorry if I held us up. I finished my turnset last night but was too tired to post...

Hmm... is GW dead yet? Let's find out...

First off.. 1.61 ate my autolog again! :mad:

Since I don't have a report of casualties from the auto log, let me just say they felt like they were somewhat high. Yes, some were suicide arty, but even some infrantry lost. I guess that's the price paid when fighting troops of equal tech...

As Greyfox said, San Fran was ready to be taken on turn 1. I kept it, it's good to have another coastal city, especially with Detroit down there on the 1-tile island.

Chicago turned out to be a tough nut to crack. Took several turns, and I needed to wait for some reinforcements. GW must have popped some extra Machine guns there. But we were not to be denied.

chicago2su.jpg


From there it was a simple march through the rest of GW's lands...

Buffalo - razed
St. Loius - kept

Ok, that leaves Detroit. It is guarded by one Infrantry and one Machine gun. But with the amphibious landing, going to be tough. I've been bombing down defenses with a destroyer. Couple of troop transports are on the way.

Here's what I get for razing Buffalo...

abydos1az.jpg


Have to take care of that as soon as we get around to Hatty...

After that happened, I took our Great Artist and plopped him down in St. Loius. That should turn back any thoughts the AI has of settling any more cities...

After Dallas is taken, hatty is next. I've amassed a load of troops on her border. Also, I have put some by Mansa's cities that are in our lands... Remember they have a defensiver pact, so we'll be at war with both as soon as we declare.

Oh, Fission just came in... and I started Manattan. Not sure if we'll use them... but nukes can be available soon :evil:

Sorry for the report, seemed hard to do without the autolog...

The save:
 
Dallas can be taken, but casualty rate will be high. Best bet is to churn out marines. They eat machine guard for breakfast ... better if can give them ambiphuos promotion ...

I see we have airport as well.

One thing that I must ask: what is the number on the top-left corner?

By the way, your first image is not scaled ...

Have fun, ChrTh!

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Partial Report:

Turn 0 -- 1880 AD

Alright, look like my goal this turn is to finish what I started with GW. I actually might take advantage of the lull and save the attack on Hattie for someone else...

I find it odd that Maquis says Fission is in, but I see one turn left :confused:

Turn 1 -- 1882 AD

Fission is in, start Industrialism for the Marines.

Neapolis: Confused Temple > Airport
Nottingham: Colosseum > Confused Academy
York: Coal Plant > Infantry
Portland: University > Airport
Baltimore: Hindu Temple > Harbor

St. Louis is now confused.

Troop movement.

Science to 80%, Industrialism still in 3.

Turn 2 -- 1884 AD

Antium: University > Bank
York: Infantry > Artillery
London: Artillery > Infantry
Tokyo: Sam Infantry > Artillery
Nara: Coal Plant > Drydock
Kyoto: Buddhist Stupa > Infantry
New York: University > Airport
San Fran: Transport > Coal Plant

Assault on Detroit:
Bombard by Destroyer to 10%
...will have to wait one more turn :blush:

Turn 3 -- 1886 AD

Antium: Bank > Gunship
Atlanta: University > Airport
Boston: Forge > Barracks
Washington: Factory > Coal Plant

Assault on Detroit take 2:
Bombard by Destroyer to 4%
3 artillery suicide :eek:
Infantry kills SAM Infantry (GW upgraded from Machine Gun)
Sam kills Infantry. Detroit falls. I take it to prevent someone else from putting a city there.

Bye bye George ...

Ok, I think I'll attack Hattie in 2 turns.

Turn 4 -- 1888 AD

Industrialism comes in, start Radio.

Rome: Factory > Coal Plant
Antium: Gunship > Tank
Nottingham: Confused Academy > Fighter
York: Artillery > Fighter
London: Infantry > Fighter
Tokyo: Artillery > Fighter (all these fighters are for border city defense)
Kyoto: Infantry > Tank
Portland: Airport > Gunship
Philly: Factory > Coal Plant
Chicago starts Factory

The Roman Empire has 50 million souls!

Aluminum is in (on a previously mined spot) ... including from Nara :lol:

All cities not building anything get switched to airports.


Eh, we're ready. I declare War on Hattie. Mansa declares on me. I work East to West.

Outside Abydos, the declaration of war puts some troops/workers/settler on the tile to be captured.
Arty suicides. Infantry defeats Infantry. Arty defeats Infantry. Capture two workers.

Agades: Cav kills Longbow. Arty suicides. Infantry kills Infantry. Will have to wait a turn.

Awlil is razed.

London has had a nice cultural expansion, giving us the ability to assault Pi-Ram right away.
Artillery bombards to 0. 1 suicide arty. Kill 2 inf and a machine gun, Pi-Ram is ours.

IBT:

Counterattack:

Wow, Pi-Ram gets slaughtered. Hattie has tanks. We'll need to adjust invasion plans accordingly.

Turn 5 -- 1890 AD

Antium: Tank > Tank
Cumae: West Point > Tank
Neapolis: Airport > Tank
Nottingham: Fighter > Marine
York: Fighter > Marine
London: Fighter > Marine
Tokyo: Fighter > Marine
New York: Airport > Tank

Agades is razed.
Adybos is razed.

Heliopolis is bombarded down to 0%. 1 arty suicides. Arty defeats Infantry. Infantry loses to Machine Gun. Infantry defeats Machine Gun. Infantry loses to Infantry. Infantry defeats Infantry. Infantry defeats Cavalry. SAM defeats Longbow. Not enough troops to take.

Pi-Ram is assaulted. Lose a couple artillery, but am able to take it. This time I raze it.

***

Ok, need to take a break. I'll play the rest later or tomorrow.
 
I think watching almost 10 hours of the NFL Draft has affected my game ... I tried to trade a Gunship to Hatty for 2 infantry and a longbow :crazyeye:

;)

In all serious, I won't be finishing tonight. I hope no one thinks I'm pushing war forward too soon; as far as I'm concerned, we have greater production than our opponents combined, so the sooner we start the sooner we finish, even if we move slowly at first.

Also, I've been reading a Civil War book, and if I had a dollar for every time the phrase "McClellan hesitated" was read, well, I'd be a rich man.

So call me Grant :D
 
Bob, you can ignore all of ChrTh's report, but you must read this:
ChrTh said:
Aluminum is in (on a previously mined spot) ... including from Nara :lol:
Click to expand...
:D :D :D

ChrTH, you feebleminded warmonger. First you say leave Hattie for the next, then you say attack her in 2 turns, and prompty proceed to attack on the same turn!

But Good job!!! :D

Your computer still needing a break in every 5 turns?

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No, I got my computer fixed. Unfortunately modern warfare requires me to take a break every 5 turns lest I hose up the team.

If it makes Bob feel better, other cities had Aluminum as well ;)

He who hesitates is lost
 
Ok, status update:

Been doing a lot of studying of the game. This is what I believe:

I believe that once Radio is learned in 3 turns I'll be dropping science to 0%
I believe that I will bring every troop into play to conquer the world
I believe that I will raze every city that I encounter*
I believe that I will be island hopping in the West
I believe that I will be building an army of Gunships and Tanks to roll over the opposition
I believe that we will not have peace until the game is over
I believe that I will not be seeing this game again

*Yes even Memphis with its Shrine and tons of wonders

Don't believe I'll finish my turn tonight...but we'll see.
 
Turn 5 -- 1890 AD (cont)

MMOW&T

IBT:

No counterattack

Turn 6 -- 1892 AD

Antium: Tank > Tank
Nara: Drydock > Battleship
Portland: Gunship > Gunship
Boston: Barracks > Market
Washington: Coal Plant > Airport

Another attack on Heliopolis:
Cannon (cannon?) suicides (but he withdraws)
Artillery attacks, withdraws
Artillery defeats Infantry
Artillery defeats Infantry
Infantry defeats Infantry
Infantry defeats Artillery
Sam Infantry loses to Artillery
Artillery defeats Artillery
Infantry defeats Artillery
Infantry defeats Catapult
...Heliopolis is razed.

Assault on Memphis:
Artilleryx3 pound to 0%
Suicide an Artillery
Suicide another Artillery
Gunship kills Machine Gun
Infantry defeats Infantry
Infantry defeats SAM Infantry
Infantry defeats Marine ... Memphis (and millenia of wonders) go up in flames

IBT:

We lose a wounded Gunship to an Infantry

Turn 7 -- 1894 AD

Rome: Coal Plant > Tank
Antium: Tank > Tank
Neapolis: Tank > Tank
York: Marine > Tank
Edo: Airport > Gunship
Osaka: Airport > Marine
Kyoto: Tank > Gunship
Atlanta: Airport > Tank
San Fran: Coal Plant > Battleship
St. Louis: Forge > Factory

MMOW&T

IBT:
Lose an Empty Transport to a Destroyer

Turn 8 -- 1896 AD
Antium: Tank > Eiffel Tower
Cumae: Tank > Bomber
Nottingham: Marine > Marine
London: Marine > Bomber
Tokyo: Marine > Gunship
Satsuma: Airport > Gunship
Nara: Battleship > Battleship

Battleship loses to Destroyer :mad:

Assault on Wadan
Suicide an Artillery or two
Infantry loses to an Infantry (I think I need to get Marines over here)
Sam defeats Infantry, razes Wadan

Science down to 0%, Culture up to 10%

A little attack on Byblos
Tank kills SAM

RNG God is angry at me and kills a Tank at Hieraconapolis

IBT:
Nada

Turn 9 -- 1898 AD
Edo: Gunship > Bomber
Osaka: Marine > Bomber
Kyoto: Gunship > Tank
Portland: Gunship > Tank
New York: Tank > Gunship
Detroit starts Barracks

Hieraconpolis
Tank loses to Infantry (while doing collateral damage)
Tank kills Infantry
Marine kills Infantry ... Hieraconpolis is razed

Byblos
Artillery kills SAM
Tank kills Artillery
Tank kills Artillery ... Byblos is razed

Kill a Tank that decided to invade

IBT:
Defeat a SAM, lose a Marine

Turn 10 -- 1900 AD
Rome: Tank > Marine
Cumae: Bomber > Tank
Neapolis: Tank > Tank
York: Tank > Tank
Philly: Coal Plant > Airport
San Fran: Battleship > Battleship
St. Louis: Factory > Coal Plant

SAM attacks a Longbow/Settler that's been sitting on an island.

Infantry kills an Infantry that had wandered into our territory

Battleship destroys destroyer

Troops moving towards Thebes and Giza. Should be able to eliminate Thebes next turn.

Our treasury is at about 3000 ... feel free to upgrade/rush whatever you want!

Here's the save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/VQ04_AD-1900.Civ4SavedGame
 
We probably should build a couple more transports on the east coast. There are some troops in St. Louis ready to go East.

I think Eektor is up.

EDIT: The SAM can probably "fortify until heal" and so the transport/destroyer should be sent back west to pick up more troops -- can be done immediately. Also might want to airlift a marine or 2 to St. Louis

2nd EDIT: Looked at the map again. Attack Thebes with the Southern Troops first; if you can raze it, you should be able to immediately assault Kumbi Selah with the North troops (since it'll take the Inter-turn before Kumbi can expand its cultural borders again). You also might want to not raze Kumbi and Giza so that they can become Bomber staging areas. Or you might not care and just want to raze everything :D
 
Alright I finally have time to play again. I need to catch up on the reading for this game first. I should be able to play by tonight or tomorrow night. BTW, are we playing in 1.61 now?
 
GreyFox said:
Bob, you can ignore all of ChrTh's report, but you must read this:

:D :D :D
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Pfft. We would have had the Aluminum regardless of Nara being there or not. Our culture is unstoppable - in fact I'm tryin got prove that Nara is actually subverting us. The math isn't quite there, but once I can prove 2+2 = 5... well its q.e.d. from there.



stupid nara
 
bobrath said:
Pfft. We would have had the Aluminum regardless of Nara being there or not. Our culture is unstoppable - in fact I'm tryin got prove that Nara is actually subverting us. The math isn't quite there, but once I can prove 2+2 = 5... well its q.e.d. from there.



stupid nara
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If it makes you feel better, Mansa pillaged Nara's fishing boats before I could save them and it's now starving.
 
I can prove 1+1 = 3 but the 2+2 = 5 could be hard :D

Anybody remember how close we are to the domination limit? Should I be razing all cities so we don't win by domination?
 
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