Maquis
King
Why not? With rails everyehere, you can amass the troops at the border in 2-3 turns
VQ04 - Revenge!
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Why not? With rails everyehere, you can amass the troops at the border in 2-3 turns
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
"2-3 turns"? Heh.
Turn 0 -- 1820 AD
Sheesh, I haven't played any Civ for awhile, don't remember what it is I'm supposed to do. Hrm, let me look at my notes from my last turn here: "Kill the Americans" Huh, ok, I guess I can do that
Man, everyone really loves each other. This would be an easy diplo win.
I'm disappointed with our railroad building. Why don't we have railroads to the border by Baltimore. I send some workers out.
I declare war on GW.
Cats hit Cincy, reducing defense to 12%. Cannon withdraws after bounding the Machine Gun and Rifle. Cannon is suicided. Rifle kills Machine Gun. Rifle loses to Rifle. Rifle kills Rifle. Cincy is ours.
Infantry slaughters Rifle in Dallas. Rifle kills longbow. Dallas is razed.
IBT:
American sends the kitchen sink at us. They lose a bunch of troops, we lose 1 worker and a cavalry.
Turn 1 -- 1822 AD
Trade Mansa sheep for spices
Sci Meth is in, start Fascism (due in 3 at 70%)
Nara: Market > Barracks
Kyoto: Grocer > Factory
Miami: Harbor > Barracks
Infantry slaughters Cavalry outside of Atlanta.
Rifle kills wounded (retreated) Cavalry outside of Cincy.
Infantry loses to Cavalry outside Miami
Cannon defeats Grenadier (still outside Miami)
Knight finishes off Cavalry.
Cannon kills Cavalry (outside of Cincy again)
Another cannon assaults, withdraws.
Infantry kills Cavalry
Infantry kills Cavalry
Cavalry kills Grenadier
Rifle kills Cavalry
IBT:
No counterattack.
Turn 2 -- 1824 AD
Cumae: Factory > Coal Plant
Atlanta: Confucian Temple > Barracks
Advance continues. Washington is guarded by a Cavalry, three rifles, and two cannons.
Mostly troop movement.
Oh, and in case you were wondering what the toll so far on GW has been:
IBT:
We lose a Rifle to a Cannon.
Turn 3 -- 1826 AD
Nottingham: Factory > Coal Plant
London: Ditto
Edo: Ditto
Our little stack heading towards Chicago realizes it needs some upgrades and heads out ...
To be continued!
Turn 0 -- 1820 AD
Sheesh, I haven't played any Civ for awhile, don't remember what it is I'm supposed to do. Hrm, let me look at my notes from my last turn here: "Kill the Americans" Huh, ok, I guess I can do that
Man, everyone really loves each other. This would be an easy diplo win.
I'm disappointed with our railroad building. Why don't we have railroads to the border by Baltimore. I send some workers out.
I declare war on GW.
Cats hit Cincy, reducing defense to 12%. Cannon withdraws after bounding the Machine Gun and Rifle. Cannon is suicided. Rifle kills Machine Gun. Rifle loses to Rifle. Rifle kills Rifle. Cincy is ours.
Infantry slaughters Rifle in Dallas. Rifle kills longbow. Dallas is razed.
IBT:
American sends the kitchen sink at us. They lose a bunch of troops, we lose 1 worker and a cavalry.
Turn 1 -- 1822 AD
Trade Mansa sheep for spices
Sci Meth is in, start Fascism (due in 3 at 70%)
Nara: Market > Barracks
Kyoto: Grocer > Factory
Miami: Harbor > Barracks
Infantry slaughters Cavalry outside of Atlanta.
Rifle kills wounded (retreated) Cavalry outside of Cincy.
Infantry loses to Cavalry outside Miami
Cannon defeats Grenadier (still outside Miami)
Knight finishes off Cavalry.
Cannon kills Cavalry (outside of Cincy again)
Another cannon assaults, withdraws.
Infantry kills Cavalry
Infantry kills Cavalry
Cavalry kills Grenadier
Rifle kills Cavalry
IBT:
No counterattack.
Turn 2 -- 1824 AD
Cumae: Factory > Coal Plant
Atlanta: Confucian Temple > Barracks
Advance continues. Washington is guarded by a Cavalry, three rifles, and two cannons.
Mostly troop movement.
Oh, and in case you were wondering what the toll so far on GW has been:
IBT:
We lose a Rifle to a Cannon.
Turn 3 -- 1826 AD
Nottingham: Factory > Coal Plant
London: Ditto
Edo: Ditto
Our little stack heading towards Chicago realizes it needs some upgrades and heads out ...
To be continued!
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
IBT:
Yikes, our retreating stack takes some casualties. We kill a rifle outside of Washington, though.
Turn 4 -- 1828 AD
Fascism > Physics
Portland: Bank > Factory
Dammit, GW has Infantry. (This, btw, is why I didn't wait. Infantry is a huge advantage over Rifles and I wanted to make sure I got my money's worth).
Assault on Baltimore: Infantry defeats Rifle
Infantry kills retreated Cavalry outside Washington.
Our stack makes a diversion to kill the annoying cannon.
Washington is bombarded down to 40%.
IBT:
Our Chicago-area stack takes some more casualties, but our Washington stack kills a couple rifles.
Turn 5 -- 1830 AD
Satsuma: Factory > Coal Plant
Nara: Barracks > Factory
New Orleans: Harbor > Barracks
Cincy starts a Theatre
I rush an Ironclad in Miami to deal with an imminent Frigate threat.
We get a Great Engineer in Rome, I sleep him for now.
Assault on Baltimore: Infantry defeats Infantry, Baltimore is ours.
Rifle kills Cavalry threatening Miami.
IBT: Cannon assaults stack outside Washington, loses
Turn 6 -- 1832 AD
Miami's seas take some damage. Crap, GW has Destroyers.
Our ironclad sinks ignomiously into the sea
Outside Miami: Infantry defeats Grenadier.
Assault on Washington:
Cannon bombards to 0. 2 Cannons suicide.
Lose an Infantry, lose another. I send in Nine Lives ... who dies
But Nine Lives sacrifice will not be in vain, I pledge it!
Infantry defeats Infantry. Infantry defeats Rifle. Infantry defeats Rifle.
Infantry defeats Infantry. Infantry defeats Cannon. Infantry defeats Cavalry.
Washington falls. We now control the Parthenon, the Hagia Sophia, and the Statue of Liberty ... ooh, and an Academy.
Outside Washington, Infantry kills Rifle
IBT: We lose a Cavalry to an Infantry
Turn 7 -- 1834 AD
Antium: Pentagon > Infantry
Cumae: Coal Plant > Mt. Rushmore
Neapolis: Factory > Coal Plant
Tokyo: Ditto
Osaka: Ditto
Atlanta: Barracks > Factory
Boston: University > Oxford University
Outside Miami, Infantry defeats Cannon.
Outside Houston, Infantry defeats Infantry. Houston has just an infantry and a rifle guarding it.
War Weariness is starting to kick in.
Turn 8 -- 1836 AD
Physics > Combustion
Antium: Infantry > Infantry
Nottingham: Coal Plant > Bank
London: Coal Plant > Infantry
Edo: Coal Plant > Bank
Miami: Barracks > Forge
Dammit, all of our Uranium is in towns.
Actually, screw Combustion. I'm going for Artillery.
Philadelphia is guarded by Machine Gun, Cavalry, and Cannon.
IBT: Philly sacrifices one of its infantry to me
Turn 9 -- 1838 AD
Antium: Infantry > Cannon
Satsuma: Coal Plant > Cannon
New York: Bank > Factory
IBT: We lose an Infantry to an Infantry
Turn 10 -- 1840 AD
Antium: Cannon > Cannon
Cumae: Mount Rushmore > Cannon
Kyoto: Factory > Coal Plant
Assault on Houston:
1 Cannon suicides, 1 withdraws.
1 infantry dies, 2 infantry live, Houston is ours.
Well, I made some modest gains this turn. I should've started building extra cannons early, but I had thought I could research Artillery after Fascism (forgot about Physics). Oh well, still mostly a builder turn
I have a lot of Infantry stacks moving, but they need more cannon/artillery before they'll be able to take out Philly and Chicago. BTW, take a gander at Detroit:
... so we'll probably want a navy too.
Other than that, I think we're in good shape.
Results for this round:
4 cities taken, 1 razed.
And the save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/VQ04_AD-1840.Civ4SavedGame
Yikes, our retreating stack takes some casualties. We kill a rifle outside of Washington, though.
Turn 4 -- 1828 AD
Fascism > Physics
Portland: Bank > Factory
Dammit, GW has Infantry. (This, btw, is why I didn't wait. Infantry is a huge advantage over Rifles and I wanted to make sure I got my money's worth).
Assault on Baltimore: Infantry defeats Rifle
Infantry kills retreated Cavalry outside Washington.
Our stack makes a diversion to kill the annoying cannon.
Washington is bombarded down to 40%.
IBT:
Our Chicago-area stack takes some more casualties, but our Washington stack kills a couple rifles.
Turn 5 -- 1830 AD
Satsuma: Factory > Coal Plant
Nara: Barracks > Factory
New Orleans: Harbor > Barracks
Cincy starts a Theatre
I rush an Ironclad in Miami to deal with an imminent Frigate threat.
We get a Great Engineer in Rome, I sleep him for now.
Assault on Baltimore: Infantry defeats Infantry, Baltimore is ours.
Rifle kills Cavalry threatening Miami.
IBT: Cannon assaults stack outside Washington, loses
Turn 6 -- 1832 AD
Miami's seas take some damage. Crap, GW has Destroyers.
Our ironclad sinks ignomiously into the sea
Outside Miami: Infantry defeats Grenadier.
Assault on Washington:
Cannon bombards to 0. 2 Cannons suicide.
Lose an Infantry, lose another. I send in Nine Lives ... who dies
But Nine Lives sacrifice will not be in vain, I pledge it!
Infantry defeats Infantry. Infantry defeats Rifle. Infantry defeats Rifle.
Infantry defeats Infantry. Infantry defeats Cannon. Infantry defeats Cavalry.
Washington falls. We now control the Parthenon, the Hagia Sophia, and the Statue of Liberty
... ooh, and an Academy.Outside Washington, Infantry kills Rifle
IBT: We lose a Cavalry to an Infantry
Turn 7 -- 1834 AD
Antium: Pentagon > Infantry
Cumae: Coal Plant > Mt. Rushmore
Neapolis: Factory > Coal Plant
Tokyo: Ditto
Osaka: Ditto
Atlanta: Barracks > Factory
Boston: University > Oxford University
Outside Miami, Infantry defeats Cannon.
Outside Houston, Infantry defeats Infantry. Houston has just an infantry and a rifle guarding it.
War Weariness is starting to kick in.
Turn 8 -- 1836 AD
Physics > Combustion
Antium: Infantry > Infantry
Nottingham: Coal Plant > Bank
London: Coal Plant > Infantry
Edo: Coal Plant > Bank
Miami: Barracks > Forge
Dammit, all of our Uranium is in towns.
Actually, screw Combustion. I'm going for Artillery.
Philadelphia is guarded by Machine Gun, Cavalry, and Cannon.
IBT: Philly sacrifices one of its infantry to me
Turn 9 -- 1838 AD
Antium: Infantry > Cannon
Satsuma: Coal Plant > Cannon
New York: Bank > Factory
IBT: We lose an Infantry to an Infantry
Turn 10 -- 1840 AD
Antium: Cannon > Cannon
Cumae: Mount Rushmore > Cannon
Kyoto: Factory > Coal Plant
Assault on Houston:
1 Cannon suicides, 1 withdraws.
1 infantry dies, 2 infantry live, Houston is ours.
Well, I made some modest gains this turn. I should've started building extra cannons early, but I had thought I could research Artillery after Fascism (forgot about Physics). Oh well, still mostly a builder turn
I have a lot of Infantry stacks moving, but they need more cannon/artillery before they'll be able to take out Philly and Chicago. BTW, take a gander at Detroit:
... so we'll probably want a navy too.Other than that, I think we're in good shape.
Results for this round:
4 cities taken, 1 razed.
And the save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/VQ04_AD-1840.Civ4SavedGame
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Oh yeah, don't forget the Great Engineer. Don't know what we want to rush with him (anything less than 5 turns when including gold doesn't seem worth it)
GreyFox
Make it so ...
war!!! 
Good turns, ChrTh! One thing about everybody loves everbody is they would be taken by surprise when we declared. Evident from the 5 cities captured/razed, althought that is still not possible without the decisive moves by ChrTh
RE the GE: How about Pentagon? Or even West Point?
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ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Pentagon is built ... hrm, not sure if West Point is available yet, I forgot to check. Perhaps it still is. Antium can't build any more National Wonders, though, otherwise it would be unstoppable.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
One More Thing(tm):
Mansa's and Hattie's cities are pretty entwined. I don't think War with just one is going to be possible. We should be prepared for a march to the sea to end the game.
In terms of techs, I would think heading for Flight/Bombers might be the best course of research.
Mansa's and Hattie's cities are pretty entwined. I don't think War with just one is going to be possible. We should be prepared for a march to the sea to end the game.
In terms of techs, I would think heading for Flight/Bombers might be the best course of research.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
So who's up, Eektor with Bobrath on deck?
GreyFox
Make it so ...
I'm okay with the Flights (Fighters) and Radio (Bombers), but of-course this being a Pangea map, one might want to forgo the bombers and go for arty instead. Cheaper, and a lost more effeicent, but arty are slow.
@eektor: we don't call ourselves VQ for nothing ... actually we have slowed down a lot ... If we were to go at VQ01's pace, this game will be over by now!
@eektor: we don't call ourselves VQ for nothing ... actually we have slowed down a lot ... If we were to go at VQ01's pace, this game will be over by now!
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
We'll have Arty next turn, I was just thinking in terms of flexibility: with what will likely be a large line of attack, the ability to have Bombers hit different cities/areas without moving them is a bonus.
Maquis
King
Good to see we're finally taking Washington down! That's a pits on Dallas though... can we get any units an Amphibious promotion? 
Also, roster check:
player 1: Maquis -- swapped w/ ChrTh
player 2: eektor -- skip
player 3: bobrath -- UP!
player 4: GreyFox -- on deck
player 5: ChrTh -- just played
Also, roster check:
player 1: Maquis -- swapped w/ ChrTh
player 2: eektor -- skip
player 3: bobrath -- UP!
player 4: GreyFox -- on deck
player 5: ChrTh -- just played
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Geex, I am up already??? Now this is really quick ... 
Got it, playing, posting in 2 hrs. .... I hope.
Geez ... at this rate, I will never get to deal my gems ...
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GreyFox
Make it so ...
Opps, I remember, my home computer is only 1.61., and my laptop is sleeping in my office.
Can we play this with 1.61?
Can we play this with 1.61?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Tell GW I said "Hello"
Maquis
King
At this point I would have no problems going to 1.61 on this game. I think by this point most other SG's have moved to 1.61.
Go ahead GreyFox, and move us up... (Hey, take down GW too!)
Go ahead GreyFox, and move us up... (Hey, take down GW too!)
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Roger, "Hello" to GW, and take down GW. Anything else? 
GreyFox
Make it so ...
A relatively quiet turnset .... considering we are at WAR.
First off, switch Kyoto to Jail. Its has +8 WW
Then, instea dof me saying hello to Washy for ChrTh, he said hello to us with his flashy new destroyer:
Hmmm ... alright. Let you have the naval superiority first, but not for long.
After that, is a series of troops movments, and finally, in position to take Philadelphia.
First, the standard suicide arty:
Then, the infantry:
Then, Philadelphia is ours.
Quite easily done.
We have not enough artilleries.
I spent the rest of my turnset position our armies in Chigago and San Fransico, and taking down the defense. I did lose a couple of workers, but its okay firstly we have tons of them with nothing to do. Secondly, we will sooner or later get them back.
Next player should be able to take both Chicago and San Fransico in his first turn with a couple of suicide arty followed by infantries:
I think I
in researching for Biology. Why did I do that ...??? don't know what possess me, but I was thinking we ha dhealth-induced starvation n some cities, so I chose Biology. On hindsight, I clearly wasn't thinking.
I started a couple of destroyers. One of them is at Nara, special dedication to Bobrath. I'd also built us a few missionaries and at the end of my turnset, some of them should still have incomplete movements.
We have one more Great Artist borned in my turnset sleeping somewhere, I think we can trigger our golden age ... for what I don't know. Antium is already churning out one unit every turn. But, hey, everybody loves golden age, right, Right, RIGHT?
Sorry for the relatively dry write-up, promise to do better next time when I wasn't so sleepy ... :zzzz:
The save: (Too sleepy to figure out who's next ... go figure yourself).
First off, switch Kyoto to Jail. Its has +8 WW
Then, instea dof me saying hello to Washy for ChrTh, he said hello to us with his flashy new destroyer:
Hmmm ... alright. Let you have the naval superiority first, but not for long.
After that, is a series of troops movments, and finally, in position to take Philadelphia.
First, the standard suicide arty:
Then, the infantry:
Then, Philadelphia is ours.
Quite easily done.
We have not enough artilleries.
I spent the rest of my turnset position our armies in Chigago and San Fransico, and taking down the defense. I did lose a couple of workers, but its okay firstly we have tons of them with nothing to do. Secondly, we will sooner or later get them back.
Next player should be able to take both Chicago and San Fransico in his first turn with a couple of suicide arty followed by infantries:
I think I
in researching for Biology. Why did I do that ...??? don't know what possess me, but I was thinking we ha dhealth-induced starvation n some cities, so I chose Biology. On hindsight, I clearly wasn't thinking.I started a couple of destroyers. One of them is at Nara, special dedication to Bobrath
. I'd also built us a few missionaries and at the end of my turnset, some of them should still have incomplete movements.We have one more Great Artist borned in my turnset sleeping somewhere, I think we can trigger our golden age ... for what I don't know. Antium is already churning out one unit every turn. But, hey, everybody loves golden age, right, Right, RIGHT?
Spoiler :
Sorry for the relatively dry write-up, promise to do better next time when I wasn't so sleepy ... :zzzz:
The save: (Too sleepy to figure out who's next ... go figure yourself).
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
What'd you do all turn? You should've at least gotten 10 out of Antium. Maquis, since I went before Greyfox, do you want us to perma-swap our spots in the roster?
