VQ04 - Revenge!

eektor said:
I can prove 1+1 = 3 but the 2+2 = 5 could be hard :D

Anybody remember how close we are to the domination limit? Should I be razing all cities so we don't win by domination?

Conquest Victory is the only type enabled, so we don't need to worry about accidental domination (I checked multiple times while playing).

I razed everything, though, because troops holding the cities can't take others. That being said, we have a lot of walking wounded; after Thebes/Kumbi fall, you might want to keep one or both to give our troops a place to heal (and as a staging area for Bombers)
 
Plus razing captured cities keeps our economy ticking. I'd only keep a city if it turned a net gain for us or was a necessary heal poit for our troops.
 
Maquis said:
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(I checked multiple times while playing).

Just had to check if the game somehow re-enabled Domination during your turnset?

Or Chr could be like me and has a habit of checking the domination just to make sure you don't go over like I had to do in the last gotm since I didn't want to win by domination.

Anyways, here is my turnset. It took longer than I thought to play so this is going to be kind of short, sorry.

After looking around the battlefield, I decided to concentrate on Egypt first and deal with Mali later. In order for Mansa to not feel like he was missing the fun I decided to bomb some of his cities defenseless with the new bombers.

Turn 1: 1902 AD
Captured and kept Thebes. Thebes was a holy city and had the shrine. Also would be nice to take a little break to rest some units there.

Turn 3: 1906 AD
Captured and razed Giza.

Turn 7: 1914 AD
Captured and kept Elaphantine. It was by the coast so I figured it could be a good city to rush a transport and send some units to the islands.

Turn 9: 1918 AD
Captured and razed Alexandria. Captured and kept Kumbi Saleh. I kept Kumbi because it was in a good position to put the bombers in to effectively bomb 4 Mali cities close by.

After turn comments:
Well Egypt is out of the main continent. The next person might be able to take out Mansa from the main continent too. Might want to start getting ready for island invasion. I got a little group of ships and a transport by the American coast. The game is pretty much won just need to finish them off.

Here is the autolog:
Spoiler :
Turn 320 (1900 AD)
Destroyer defeats (21.90/30): Malinese Transport
Nottingham finishes: Marine
London finishes: Bomber
Edo finishes: Bomber
Tokyo grows: 19
Tokyo finishes: Gunship
Osaka finishes: Bomber
Satsuma finishes: Marine
Atlanta finishes: Tank
New York finishes: Gunship
Miami finishes: Factory
Cincinnati's borders expand
Washington finishes: Airport
Philadelphia's borders expand
Infantry loses to: Malinese SAM Infantry (18.00/18)

Turn 321 (1902 AD)
Nottingham begins: Tank
London begins: Tank
Edo begins: Bomber
Tokyo begins: Infantry
Osaka begins: Marine
Satsuma begins: Bomber
Atlanta begins: Tank
New York begins: Gunship
Miami begins: Submarine
Washington begins: Fighter
Tank loses to: Egyptian Infantry (6.80/20)
Tank defeats (28.00/28): Egyptian Infantry
Tank defeats (23.80/28): Egyptian Infantry
Infantry defeats (14.00/20): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Gunship defeats (19.68/24): Egyptian Infantry
Hinduism has spread: Thebes (Egyptian Empire)
Christianity has spread: Thebes
Islam has spread: Thebes
Hinduism has spread: Thebes
Buddhism has spread: Thebes
Captured Thebes (Hatshepsut)
Infantry defeats (12.40/20): Malinese SAM Infantry
Rome finishes: Marine
Cumae finishes: Tank
London's borders expand
Kyoto finishes: Tank
Portland finishes: Tank
Baltimore finishes: Harbor
Washington grows: 14
San Francisco's borders expand
Chicago grows: 12
Chicago's borders expand
Gunship loses to: Egyptian Infantry (3.20/20)
Destroyer loses to: Malinese Battleship (40.00/40)
Infantry loses to: Malinese Infantry (15.20/20)

Turn 322 (1904 AD)
Rome begins: Marine
Cumae begins: Tank
Kyoto begins: Tank
Portland begins: Tank
Baltimore begins: Barracks
Infantry loses to: Malinese Infantry (10.80/20)
Gunship defeats (19.44/24): Malinese Infantry
Neapolis finishes: Tank
York finishes: Tank
Washington finishes: Fighter
Houston finishes: Factory
Infantry loses to: Egyptian Tank (1.40/28)
Destroyer loses to: Malinese Destroyer (12.00/30)
Transport loses to: Malinese Battleship (40.00/40)

Turn 323 (1906 AD)
Neapolis begins: Tank
York begins: Tank
Washington begins: Bomber
Houston begins: Forge
Tank defeats (14.56/28): Malinese SAM Infantry
Tank defeats (23.24/28): Malinese SAM Infantry
Razed Taodeni
Tank defeats (8.96/28): Egyptian Tank
Tank defeats (28.00/28): Egyptian Infantry
Tank defeats (19.04/28): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Tank defeats (4.48/28): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Infantry defeats (20.00/20): Egyptian Tank
Hinduism has spread: Giza (Egyptian Empire)
Buddhism has spread: Giza (Egyptian Empire)
Hinduism has spread: Giza
Buddhism has spread: Giza
Captured Giza (Hatshepsut)
Razed Giza
Hinduism has spread: Giza
Buddhism has spread: Giza
Giza lost
Cumae grows: 17
London finishes: Tank
Edo finishes: Bomber
Tokyo's borders expand
Tokyo finishes: Infantry
Osaka finishes: Marine
Satsuma finishes: Bomber
Nara finishes: Battleship
Atlanta grows: 16
New York finishes: Gunship
Philadelphia finishes: Airport
San Francisco finishes: Battleship
Chicago finishes: Factory
St. Louis finishes: Coal Plant
Battleship loses to: Malinese Battleship (40.00/40)

Turn 324 (1908 AD)
London begins: SAM Infantry
Edo begins: Bomber
Tokyo begins: Infantry
Osaka begins: Marine
Satsuma begins: Bomber
Nara begins: Destroyer
New York begins: Gunship
Philadelphia begins: Bomber
San Francisco begins: Destroyer
Chicago begins: Marine
St. Louis begins: Battleship
Rome finishes: Marine
Johannes Kepler (Great Scientist) born in Rome
Antium finishes: The Eiffel Tower
Cumae finishes: Tank
Nottingham finishes: Tank
Osaka grows: 20
Kyoto finishes: Tank
Atlanta finishes: Tank
Portland finishes: Tank
New York grows: 15
Baltimore grows: 8
Houston's borders expand
San Francisco grows: 9
San Francisco finishes: Destroyer
St. Louis finishes: Battleship
Battleship loses to: Malinese Battleship (40.00/40)

Turn 325 (1910 AD)
Rome begins: Marine
Antium begins: Tank
Cumae begins: Tank
Nottingham begins: Tank
Kyoto begins: Infantry
Atlanta begins: Tank
Portland begins: Artillery
San Francisco begins: Battleship
St. Louis begins: Transport
Battleship defeats (14.80/40): Malinese Battleship
Antium finishes: Tank
Neapolis finishes: Tank
York finishes: Tank
London finishes: SAM Infantry
Edo finishes: Bomber
Tokyo finishes: Infantry
Osaka finishes: Marine
Kyoto grows: 25
Boston finishes: Market
Cincinnati finishes: Factory
Washington finishes: Bomber
Philadelphia grows: 11
St. Louis finishes: Transport
Gunship defeats (2.88/24): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Gunship loses to: Egyptian SAM Infantry (18.00/18)
Battleship loses to: Malinese Destroyer (23.70/30)
Gunship loses to: Malinese Marine (19.20/24)

Turn 326 (1912 AD)
Antium begins: Tank
Neapolis begins: Tank
York begins: Tank
London begins: SAM Infantry
Edo begins: Bomber
Tokyo begins: Infantry
Osaka begins: Marine
Boston begins: Marine
Cincinnati begins: Tank
Washington begins: Marine
St. Louis begins: Battleship
Battleship defeats (9.60/40): Malinese Destroyer
Destroyer defeats (18.60/30): Malinese Destroyer
Rome finishes: Marine
Antium's borders expand
Antium finishes: Tank
Cumae finishes: Tank
London grows: 17
Satsuma finishes: Bomber
Kyoto's borders expand
Kyoto finishes: Infantry
Boston finishes: Marine
New York finishes: Gunship
Miami grows: 7
Washington grows: 15
Washington finishes: Marine
Philadelphia finishes: Bomber
Chicago finishes: Marine
St. Louis grows: 11

Turn 327 (1914 AD)
Rome begins: Bomber
Antium begins: Tank
Cumae begins: Bomber
Satsuma begins: Bomber
Kyoto begins: Infantry
Boston begins: Marine
New York begins: Gunship
Washington begins: Marine
Philadelphia begins: Bomber
Chicago begins: Marine
Tank defeats (19.04/28): Egyptian Infantry
Tank defeats (28.00/28): Egyptian Infantry
Tank defeats (23.52/28): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Tank defeats (19.60/28): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Hinduism has spread: Elephantine (Egyptian Empire)
Buddhism has spread: Elephantine (Egyptian Empire)
Hinduism has spread: Elephantine
Buddhism has spread: Elephantine
Captured Elephantine (Hatshepsut)
SAM Infantry promoted: Combat I
Antium finishes: Tank
Nottingham finishes: Tank
York finishes: Tank
London finishes: SAM Infantry
Edo finishes: Bomber
Osaka finishes: Marine
Portland finishes: Artillery
Boston grows: 18
San Francisco finishes: Battleship
Chicago grows: 13

Turn 328 (1916 AD)
Antium begins: Tank
Nottingham begins: Tank
York begins: Tank
London begins: Bomber
Edo begins: Bomber
Osaka begins: Bomber
Portland begins: Artillery
San Francisco begins: Battleship
Tank defeats (22.40/28): Egyptian Marine
Portland begins: Battleship
Rome finishes: Bomber
Antium finishes: Tank
Cumae finishes: Bomber
Neapolis finishes: Tank
Tokyo finishes: Infantry
Satsuma finishes: Bomber
Atlanta finishes: Tank
Portland finishes: Battleship
Miami finishes: Submarine
New Orleans finishes: Observatory
Washington finishes: Marine
Houston finishes: Forge
St. Louis finishes: Battleship
Detroit's borders expand

Turn 329 (1918 AD)
Rome begins: Bomber
Antium begins: Tank
Cumae begins: Bomber
Neapolis begins: Tank
Tokyo begins: Infantry
Satsuma begins: Bomber
Atlanta begins: Tank
Portland begins: Destroyer
Miami begins: Battleship
New Orleans begins: Confucian Temple
Washington begins: Marine
Houston begins: Marine
St. Louis begins: Transport
Tank defeats (27.44/28): Malinese Infantry
Tank defeats (28.00/28): Malinese Infantry
Tank defeats (16.24/28): Malinese Infantry
Tank defeats (24.08/28): Malinese Infantry
Tank defeats (24.64/28): Malinese Cavalry
Tank defeats (21.28/28): Malinese Infantry
Infantry defeats (7.20/20): Malinese Artillery
Infantry defeats (16.80/20): Malinese Artillery
Buddhism has spread: Kumbi Saleh (Malinese Empire)
Christianity has spread: Kumbi Saleh
Buddhism has spread: Kumbi Saleh
Captured Kumbi Saleh (Mansa Musa)
Gunship loses to: Egyptian Infantry (14.40/20)
Tank defeats (10.36/28): Egyptian Infantry
Tank loses to: Egyptian SAM Infantry (7.74/18)
Tank defeats (8.96/28): Egyptian Tank
Tank defeats (28.00/28): Egyptian SAM Infantry
Hinduism has spread: Alexandria (Egyptian Empire)
Buddhism has spread: Alexandria (Egyptian Empire)
Hinduism has spread: Alexandria
Buddhism has spread: Alexandria
Captured Alexandria (Hatshepsut)
Razed Alexandria
Hinduism has spread: Alexandria
Buddhism has spread: Alexandria
Alexandria lost
Antium grows: 19
Antium finishes: Tank
London finishes: Bomber
Edo finishes: Bomber
Osaka finishes: Bomber
Kyoto finishes: Infantry
New York finishes: Gunship
Miami finishes: Battleship
Chicago's borders expand
Thebes's borders expand
Submarine defeats (19.20/24): Malinese Destroyer

Turn 330 (1920 AD)
Antium begins: Tank
London begins: Tank
Edo begins: Bomber
Osaka begins: Bomber
Kyoto begins: Infantry
New York begins: Gunship
Miami begins: Destroyer
Thebes begins: Barracks
Gunship defeats (9.60/24): Malinese Marine


some screenshots:
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The capture of Alexandria

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The Mali battlefront

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The Egyptian wasteland (it was once a thriving civilization)
 
Good job, Eektor :thumbsup:

Although I still think you could've taken Kumbi the same turn you took Thebes

But, uh, great job! :D Hattie down to only one, Mansa should be easy pickings ... I hope Maquis gets one more shot at revenge!
 
Don't know that it will get back to me... but hey, that's fine!

Roster:

player 1: ChrTh --
player 2: eektor -- Just Played
player 3: bobrath -- UP!
player 4: GreyFox -- on deck
player 5: Maquis --
 
GreyFox said:
If the save gets to me, I'll pull a "ChrTh" on you, Maquis ... ;)

In case you are wondering what a "ChrTh" means, go see the last page of FFA01 :lol:

:lol: ... that may be harder to pull off with a Conquest victory rather than a Domination victory :devil:
 
ChrTh said:
... that may be harder to pull off with a Conquest victory rather than a Domination victory

I will simply ensure Maquis gets one more shot ... as you suggested earlier:

ChrTh said:
But, uh, great job! :D Hattie down to only one, Mansa should be easy pickings ... I hope Maquis gets one more shot at revenge!

But, its one and only one ... :p

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I don't know, GreyFox, I think you're running the risk of every saying that you're not MAN enough to finish the job ... ;)
 
Well it really doesn't matter to me if it comes around to me. It felt pretty good wiping GW off the main continent, so I have had my taste of revenge. :thumbsup:
 
Maybe I'll change my mind. Maybe GreyFox can leave me one of Hatty's cities....

One question... are we building Manhattan Project anywhere? I tried to leave a little hint at the end of my turnset about it when Fission came in...

Not that I am planning on using nukes... am I? :eek:
 
Maquis said:
Maybe I'll change my mind. Maybe GreyFox can leave me one of Hatty's cities....

One question... are we building Manhattan Project anywhere? I tried to leave a little hint at the end of my turnset about it when Fission came in...

Not that I am planning on using nukes... am I? :eek:

Meh, anyone can lob nukes at a city. Devising complex strategies involving Bombers, Gunships, Tanks, Artillery, and Infantry/Marines (screw SAMs, they suck) is where the real fun is! :goodjob:

...or to put it a different way, I didn't start building it.
 
Wait.... why would I reward Greyfox with the project when he chose to keep that horrid city site?

Nah, I'll just do my best to wipe both civs off the map in my 10 turns and deny Grey the fun. Neener neener
 
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