VRA-01 ~ The Masters.

Don't forget about the former aztec lands in the east. there are airports if you need to ship some reinforcements there. We rule the seas if you can get close enough to kill them...
 
I started playing last night but unfortunately I kept getting interrupted. So I did not get too far (2 or 3 turns). First off Wang has freed himself from Saladin. So I decided that I would let him twist in the wind for a bit. He would not talk to me so I figured that what the hell I will send one Destroyer and start bombardment of his last city and see how long before he decides to talk. Saladin being no fool has seen we have no navy on the eastern coast and has a whack of ships there attacking Monty:cringe:. I am complete surprised we have no navy there, it’s almost like one of my games:lol:. Monty also lost his northern city in Saladin’s territory, how he got one there is a mystery to me.:confused:

Anyways I have cleared out most of the useful units from our new holdings; they are on their way to Saladin’s island city. I was going to rebase the Bombers in one of Ragnar cities to have better access to Saladin but he has open border with him. So I used the Mongolian Island but we are in range of only one of Saladin cities, the Island one. After taking that city I will see if I can get Ragnar to close his borders with Saladin. It would be good to be able to bomb the hell out of Saladin as we get the troops into position.

I have been building bombers and tanks as cities come available. I have found having two groups of 25-30 bombers each can crush any foe within a few turns. Having Stealth Bombers only means a higher survivor rate against SAM Infantry or Mechanized Infantry. I think we are up to 7 bombers now, another ten and we should be able to crush Saladin without taking any losses. Though I do believe that to tackle Ramses we should have at least 40 bombers that could be split into two or three groups so that we can take four or five cites in the first turn of declaring, maybe more if we do not mind some losses.

For moment I plan to try to get Ragnar to close his borders with Saladin so that I can station troops and bombers there without fear of losing them. I will try to take Mecca and what ever else I can in my remaining turns. Also I think I will not defend too hard against his troops in Monty’s land, unless he turns to attack us. If Monty loses a city too bad, I will just take from Saladin. Our navy will need some reinforcement before we can go hog wild into Ramses and yes after we have squared away Saladin he should be our next target. Hopefully I remember to check the techs also, I forgot to look at what Saladin or Ramses has. I will try to finish my turns tonight hopefully without the interruptions but if I can not I will post what I got no later than tomorrow morning. And I apologize for delaying the game RL has a nasty way of rearing it’s ugly head when you least need it.
 
I am complete surprised we have no navy there,
IIRC there should have been a few on the way.

And I apologize for delaying the game RL has a nasty way of rearing it’s ugly head when you least need it.
no worries, I can't remember to actually post the save...
 
IIRC there should have been a few on the way.

Saladin sank a couple of ships IBT on me thus keeping the area clear for him. Between the bombers we have in the area and the single Battleship there with more on the way. His control of the Eastern coast is gone now.

Now I will admit am a fool. I left the save and pictures at home is morning instead of bringing them along so that I could post the report.

Basically this is what going on. Saladin has quite a few troops thus an invasion will be slaughtered. Ragnar will go to war for Electricity, and Ramses has closed his borders to us. I think Ramses is getting ready to declare war on us. We have three Great People (GS, GP & GM). I still have not finished my ten turns.

Since I forgot to bring the files today I can finish the turn set and post tonight not much is left. My plan is to have Ragnar declare war and start a Golden Age with two of the Great People. Split the bomber force into two of Ragnar's cities and begin harassing Saladin and hope that Ragnar attacks. We could then use our troops to capture the weaken cities. Comments?
 
lots of seals. lots of boats. build bombers and tanks too. The tanks go to the former Korea to give ramses second thoughts. Start the GA.
 
Here are a couple of pictures of the attack area.

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I think we should get Ragnar involved.
 
The long awaited report, sorry guys for the delay. OK, Monty came with this request:

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I did not like it. So I asked for this:

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Plastic came in:

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Since techs were already preselected I did not bother changing anything. Ramses then decided that he should close his border to us.

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I guess we had better get ready for a war with him. I checked with Ragnar to see if we could get his help:

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I query the team as in previous posts. One person agreed with me so that was enough for me. The Eiffel Tower was completed.

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I keep asking Wang this every turn after he agreed to meet with us:

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He would not agree. In the last turn I sent a lone bomber to the city to his south perhaps some bombing runs will convince otherwise. I do not know if he will give up the tech he has but I do not think we need it. Computers came in:

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The capture of Narjan:

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I attacked two turns before in an effort to drain some of Saladin's troops before taking the city. At the moment it has the main bomber force there next player should be able to cripple Saladin's troops and take the rest of the cities with ease. I suggest we build another bomber force near Ramses, so that when he attacks we can cripple the incoming troops.

How I left things:

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Spoiler :
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Turn 290/460 (1840 AD) [15-May-2007 21:55:29]
Tech learned: Plastics
Turfan finishes: Bomber
New Sarai finishes: Tank
Tabriz finishes: Factory

IBT:
While defending in American territory at Tlaxcala, Infantry defeats (20.00/20): Arabian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 96.9%)
A Village was built near Tlaxcala
A Town near Tlaxcala was destroyed by Arabian Cavalry
While defending in American territory at Tlaxcala, Infantry defeats (14.00/20): Arabian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 96.9%)
A Village was built near Tlacopan
A Town near Tlacopan was destroyed by Arabian Cavalry
Team 6 revolts and is no longer a Vassal State of Team 1
Attitude Change: Saladin(Arabia) towards Montezuma(Aztec), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Saladin(Arabia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Wang Kon(Korea), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Wang Kon(Korea) towards Saladin(Arabia), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Wang Kon(Korea) from 'Organized Religion' to 'Pacifism'

Turn 291/460 (1842 AD) [15-May-2007 22:04:00]
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
New Sarai begins: Tank (5 turns)
Tabriz begins: Bomber (9 turns)
While attacking on the high seas near Pusan, Battleship defeats (12.80/40): Arabian Destroyer (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Battleship promoted: Drill I
While attacking in American territory at Tlaxcala, Tank defeats (4.48/28): Arabian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 98.8%)
Tank promoted: Drill I
While attacking in American territory at Tlaxcala, Tank defeats (17.64/28): Arabian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 96.3%)
Tank promoted: Combat II
While attacking in American territory at Tlaxcala, Tank defeats (12.32/28): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
Cannon promoted: Drill I
While attacking in American territory at Tlaxcala, Cannon defeats (7.20/12): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 53.4%)
Boston finishes: Bomber
Turfan finishes: Bomber
Beshbalik grows: 14
Old Sarai finishes: Bomber
Nobamba finishes: Tank
Bulawayo grows: 14
A Town was built near Bulawayo
Tlacopan finishes: Factory
Tabriz grows: 8

IBT:
While defending in American territory at Tlaxcala, Infantry defeats (14.00/20): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 82.2%)
While defending in American territory at Tlaxcala, Infantry defeats (5.60/20): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 87.1%)
State Religion Change: Montezuma(Aztec) from 'no State Religion' to 'Hinduism'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Aztec) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Civics Change: Montezuma(Aztec) from 'Free Religion' to 'Theocracy'

Turn 292/460 (1844 AD) [15-May-2007 23:51:38]
Boston begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Bomber (5 turns)
Nobamba begins: Tank (4 turns)
Tlacopan begins: Destroyer (10 turns)
Infantry promoted: City Garrison I

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Turn 292/460 (1844 AD) [16-May-2007 20:44:54]
New York finishes: Tank
uMgungundlovu finishes: Airport
Atlanta grows: 11
Atlanta finishes: Bomber
Tlacopan grows: 9

IBT:
While defending on the high seas, Destroyer loses to: Arabian Destroyer (18.60/30) (Prob Victory: 32.4%)
Attitude Change: Wang Kon(Korea) towards Shaka(Zululand), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Montezuma(Aztec) towards Saladin(Arabia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 293/460 (1846 AD) [16-May-2007 20:54:21]
New York begins: Tank (3 turns)
uMgungundlovu begins: Tank (3 turns)
Atlanta begins: Battleship (9 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Malinalco
Cannon promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Arabian territory at Khurasan, Cannon loses to: Arabian Machine Gun (8.10/18) (Prob Victory: 0.5%)
Navy SEAL promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Arabian territory at Khurasan, Navy SEAL defeats (24.00/24): Arabian Infantry (Prob Victory: 55.3%)
Navy SEAL promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Arabian territory at Khurasan, Navy SEAL defeats (19.44/24): Arabian SAM Infantry (Prob Victory: 91.4%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Khurasan, Navy SEAL defeats (19.92/24): Arabian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 98.3%)
Judaism has spread: Khurasan
Christianity has spread: Khurasan
Captured Khurasan (Saladin)
Khurasan begins: Theatre (50 turns)
Washington finishes: The Eiffel Tower
Turfan finishes: Bomber
Beshbalik finishes: Battleship
Bulawayo finishes: Bomber
Ning-hsia finishes: Bomber
Malinalco finishes: Navy SEAL

IBT:
Attitude Change: Saladin(Arabia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 294/460 (1848 AD) [16-May-2007 21:20:19]
Washington begins: Battleship (2 turns)
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Battleship (4 turns)
Bulawayo begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Malinalco begins: Navy SEAL (5 turns)
Washington finishes: Battleship
Marco Polo (Merchant) (Great Merchant) born in Washington
Boston finishes: Bomber
Turfan finishes: Bomber
Nobamba finishes: Tank

IBT:

Turn 295/460 (1850 AD) [16-May-2007 21:37:42]
Washington begins: Battleship (2 turns)
Boston begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
Nobamba begins: Tank (4 turns)
A Farm was built near Malinalco
New York finishes: Tank
Turfan finishes: Bomber
New Sarai finishes: Tank
Old Sarai finishes: Bomber
uMgungundlovu finishes: Tank
Pusan's borders expand


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Turn 296/460 (1852 AD) [18-May-2007 22:42:59]
Ragnar(Vikings) declares war on Saladin(Arabia)
Tech learned: Computers
Washington finishes: Battleship
Philadelphia finishes: Rock N Roll
New Sarai grows: 13
Ning-hsia finishes: Bomber
Tlaxcala finishes: Battleship
Tlatelolco grows: 10
Karakorum finishes: Airport
P'yongyang's borders expand

IBT:
Attitude Change: Saladin(Arabia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards F.D.R.(America), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Saladin(Arabia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 297/460 (1854 AD) [18-May-2007 22:48:27]
Washington begins: Battleship (2 turns)
Philadelphia begins: Tank (4 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Tlaxcala begins: Battleship (6 turns)
Karakorum begins: Navy SEAL (5 turns)
Navy SEAL promoted: Pinch
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (3.84/24): Arabian Infantry (Prob Victory: 90.9%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (24.00/24): Arabian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 98.5%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (24.00/24): Arabian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Tank defeats (22.96/28): Arabian Artillery (Prob Victory: 97.1%)
Washington finishes: Battleship
Boston finishes: Bomber
Turfan finishes: Bomber
Beshbalik finishes: Battleship
Old Sarai grows: 16
Nobamba finishes: Tank
Bulawayo finishes: Bomber
uMgungundlovu grows: 16
uMgungundlovu finishes: Tank

IBT:
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards Wang Kon(Korea), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Civics Change: Shaka(Zululand) from 'Slavery' to 'Emancipation'

Turn 298/460 (1856 AD) [18-May-2007 23:04:11]
Washington begins: Battleship (2 turns)
Boston begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Battleship (4 turns)
Nobamba begins: Tank (4 turns)
Bulawayo begins: Bomber (4 turns)
uMgungundlovu begins: Tank (3 turns)
Tank promoted: City Raider I
Tank promoted: Drill I
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (18.96/24): Arabian Infantry (Prob Victory: 90.5%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Tank defeats (22.96/28): Arabian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 96.6%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Tank defeats (23.24/28): Arabian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 97.5%)
Ivan the Terrible (Great General) born in Old Sarai
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Tank defeats (28.00/28): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Destroyer promoted: Drill I
Destroyer promoted: Combat I
While attacking on the high seas near Fez, Destroyer defeats (23.70/30): Arabian Battleship (Prob Victory: 88.1%)
While attacking on the high seas near Fez, Destroyer defeats (19.20/30): Arabian Destroyer (Prob Victory: 96.6%)
A Cottage was built near Tlatelolco
While attacking in American territory at Tlacopan, Battleship defeats (40.00/40): Arabian Destroyer (Prob Victory: 97.5%)
A Offshore Platform was built near Atlanta
New York grows: 15
New York finishes: Tank
Turfan finishes: Bomber
Malinalco finishes: Navy SEAL

IBT:
While defending in Aztec territory at Xochicalco, Longbowman loses to: Arabian Artillery (15.84/18) (Prob Victory: 0.2%)

Turn 299/460 (1858 AD) [18-May-2007 23:25:18]
New York begins: Navy SEAL (3 turns)
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
Malinalco begins: Navy SEAL (4 turns)
While attacking just off shore at Babanango, Battleship defeats (40.00/40): Arabian Destroyer (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
While attacking in American territory near Xochicalco, Tank defeats (20.16/28): Arabian Artillery (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
While attacking in American territory near Xochicalco, Tank defeats (20.16/28): Arabian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 80.1%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Tank defeats (15.40/28): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.2%)
Tank promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Tank defeats (28.00/28): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
While attacking in Arabian territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (9.84/24): Arabian Catapult (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
Judaism has spread: Najran
Christianity has spread: Najran
Captured Najran (Saladin)
Najran begins: Theatre (50 turns)
While attacking in American territory at Najran, Tank defeats (18.76/28): Arabian Infantry (Prob Victory: 99.6%)
While attacking in American territory at Najran, Tank defeats (28.00/28): Arabian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Farm was built near Malinalco
Tank promoted: Combat I
Tank promoted: Drill I
Washington finishes: Battleship
Philadelphia finishes: Tank
Turfan finishes: Bomber
New Sarai finishes: Tank
Old Sarai finishes: Bomber
Bulawayo grows: 15
Ning-hsia finishes: Bomber
Tabriz finishes: Bomber

IBT:
While defending in American territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (24.00/24): Arabian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
While defending in American territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (21.84/24): Arabian Catapult (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While defending in American territory at Najran, Navy SEAL defeats (14.40/24): Arabian Artillery (Prob Victory: 85.5%)
While defending in American territory at Najran, Tank defeats (9.52/28): Arabian Artillery (Prob Victory: 82.6%)

Turn 300/460 (1860 AD) [18-May-2007 23:46:41]
Washington begins: Battleship (2 turns)
Philadelphia begins: Tank (4 turns)
Turfan begins: Bomber (2 turns)
New Sarai begins: Tank (5 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Ning-hsia begins: Bomber (4 turns)
Tabriz begins: Bomber (9 turns)
Transport promoted: Drill I
While attacking just off shore at Najran, Destroyer defeats (18.00/30): Arabian Battleship (Prob Victory: 88.2%)
While attacking in Arabian territory near Kufah, Battleship defeats (40.00/40): Arabian Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Battleship promoted: Drill I
Battleship promoted: Combat I
While attacking in American territory at Najran, Tank defeats (28.00/28): Arabian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 98.5%)


The save.
 
I did I take to long? Did everyone else die of old age?
No I've always been :old: and haven't died yet.

:bump: vra? G? Bueller? Anyone? I just played before Sansman.

G posted this in the skip thread:
I am on skip till September 2007 (need some rest) ...

Shall we invite a replacement to help us finish or go with 3? In either case Vra is up.
 
No I did not (a new idiot was hatched into the clan and had to celebrate for a few days), but I will try tonight.

Edit: RL intruded. Didn't get to it tonight. Will do so tomorrow. On the honey do list:
1. adjust civics. police state, state property , nationhood and vassalage come to mind.
2. build the damn dam (pun intended)
3. burn to fiber optics, start the internet and then turn off research
4. build lots of mech inf
5. prepare for the war with Rammy
6. capitulate Sal and Wang

Game is over in 50 turns or less. considering how few of us are left will try to do 15 tomorrow. the above aren't written in stone; thoughts?
 
I finished 15. I will post the save and the report tomorrow.

Wang is dead. Sal has capitulated. I've killed hordes of Egyptian cavalry. This is now a slug fest and probably winnable within 30 turns if it were a normal game. Rammy is almost gassed; I may play one more turn to make sure.

After Rammy, we can probably take Nappy and Ragnar in short order. IIRC, we have to play this out until 2050. Hmmm, maybe I'll do 20.

Report and save tomorrow.
 
Switched us to Police State and Nationhood so I could draft away the blues. Gifted up the vassals. They didn't do a thing in any of the wars. Fiber Optics finishes in 3 or 4. We can then build the internet and crank up the culture.

Arabian conquests: Fez 1864; Mecca & Medina 1876

Wang and Sal capitulate in 1876.

Declare on Rammy in 1880 & buy in Ragnar for fascism. Rammy takes Wonson in 1882, killing off Wang.

Trade Fascism and Radio to Nappy for Bio, Commie and 130g in 1884.

Egyptian conquests: Uppsala 1884; Pi Ramsess 1886; Giza 1888; PI again 1892; Wonson & Alexandria 1892; Avaris 1894; Memphis 1896; Birka, Thebes & Akhetaten 1900.

Rammy is not ready to give up. Probably need to take 2 more cities. Internet should be built in Turfan. Somewhere in hear we should check the civics, but not now.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/11866/F.D.R._AD-1900.CivWarlordsSave

I think it is time to let this one die a natural death.

Spoiler :
I played the game out until the end. After we capitulate Rammy, Nappy and Ragnar are no challenge and the game becomes tedious. If anyone wants to look at my 2049 save, let me know. Monarch is too low a level to play the Mastery Mod.
 
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