Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
andvruss said:Please take it. I am quite busy.
ahemm... if I read your signature correctly, that's just right....
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ahemm... if I read your signature correctly, that's just right....
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Sorry guys, RL hit me hard. Most probably, I won't have a chance to play until tomorrow evening.
So, if anyone else of you feels like to take over, this would be fine with me. Otherwise, I would try to continue the game tomorrow (chances are ~ 75%).
Anyway, I should be available again at next weekend.
So, if anyone else of you feels like to take over, this would be fine with me. Otherwise, I would try to continue the game tomorrow (chances are ~ 75%).
Anyway, I should be available again at next weekend.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Got it and will play 5 turns.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Pre-flights:
(where is the manual?
)
Wars:
Babylon, Scandinavia, Greece, Byzantine, Russia, Spain, Portugal, Maya => 8 nations at war with. 3 of them are adjacent: Byzantines, Portuguese, Vikings (kind of, since they have a bridgehead at San Francisco [east of Sulcis / Gades])
Unit count:
42 slave workers
4 slave trebs
1 settler
6 native workers
8 warriors
4 horsemen
10 Knights
9 Catapults
5 armies
17 NumMercs
4 MedInfs
12 Trebs
City count:
22; most productive city is Utica (new capital) with a net of 12 shields (knights in 6).
Production:
10 knights, 1 MedInf, 2 Settlers, 3 walls, 1 market, 4 temples, 1 barracks
Situation:
As Byzantines have cavalry, we are at least 4 techs behind. This is not a good thing. It becomes worse by thinking of the chance that Russian cossacks might show up. At least, they are half a continent away.
Our defense is weak everywhere. Therefore, we lack mp as well, limiting our production capacity (see Rusicade). Furthermore, due to the number of unhappy citizens, we are in danger of loosing other cities due to cultural shocks.
We are threatened actively at Nora (Byzantine muskets and longbow), at Malaca (Portuguese stack of archers/spear) and by the sheer presence of a Viking and a Byzantine town next to Gades in the east.
Due to the geostrategical situation, I don't see any new cities being founded in the east. There is a chance for new cities next to Faro (German) and in the formerly Celtic territory. As the Portuguese have RoPs with both, Germans and Iroquois, in the southwest our expansion is limited as well.
Things to change:
Will change production of the less productive cities from Knights to NumMercs. Will switch Leptis Minor (2/0/1; +1 in 1) from settler (in 8) to NumMerc (in 8). Other adjustments will follow.
(where is the manual?
)Wars:
Babylon, Scandinavia, Greece, Byzantine, Russia, Spain, Portugal, Maya => 8 nations at war with. 3 of them are adjacent: Byzantines, Portuguese, Vikings (kind of, since they have a bridgehead at San Francisco [east of Sulcis / Gades])
Unit count:
42 slave workers
4 slave trebs
1 settler
6 native workers
8 warriors
4 horsemen
10 Knights
9 Catapults
5 armies
17 NumMercs
4 MedInfs
12 Trebs
City count:
22; most productive city is Utica (new capital) with a net of 12 shields (knights in 6).
Production:
10 knights, 1 MedInf, 2 Settlers, 3 walls, 1 market, 4 temples, 1 barracks
Situation:
As Byzantines have cavalry, we are at least 4 techs behind. This is not a good thing. It becomes worse by thinking of the chance that Russian cossacks might show up. At least, they are half a continent away.
Our defense is weak everywhere. Therefore, we lack mp as well, limiting our production capacity (see Rusicade). Furthermore, due to the number of unhappy citizens, we are in danger of loosing other cities due to cultural shocks.
We are threatened actively at Nora (Byzantine muskets and longbow), at Malaca (Portuguese stack of archers/spear) and by the sheer presence of a Viking and a Byzantine town next to Gades in the east.
Due to the geostrategical situation, I don't see any new cities being founded in the east. There is a chance for new cities next to Faro (German) and in the formerly Celtic territory. As the Portuguese have RoPs with both, Germans and Iroquois, in the southwest our expansion is limited as well.
Things to change:
Will change production of the less productive cities from Knights to NumMercs. Will switch Leptis Minor (2/0/1; +1 in 1) from settler (in 8) to NumMerc (in 8). Other adjustments will follow.
akots
Poet
You can part-rush Knights in the less productive cities. And settlers are needed for another knight army.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Changes pre-turn:
MM'd Nora to walls in 1. 4th Knight army => Nora. 1st NumMerc army => NW of Nora, joining Trebs there for protective umbrella on iron and mined tiles. Knigth at Nora Hills => Nora. 4th Knight army kills Byzantine musket, rejoining 1st army.
Cadiz: from knight(7) to NumMerc(3)
Kagoshima: from Knight(7) to NumMerc(3)
Leptis Minor: from Settler(8) to NumMerc (8)
Carthage: from Knight(5) to MedInf(1)
Hasdrubal => Utica for participation at the Royal Council
Hippo: Taxman => Scientist
<return>
IBT
Greece declared on Germans.
Spain declared on Americans.
Iroquois and Hittites make peace
Spain and Germany ally vs Byzantines
Babylon declares on Japs.
Americans, Babylonians go for JS Bach's
Portuguese stack moves between our and German border at Faro => undefended Leptis Minor. As they have RoP with Germany, this may be a threat to Carthago Novo as well.
Byzantine cavalry shows up near Nora. Byzantine musket seizes iron mine at Nora.
Carthage: MedInf > NumMerc(3)
Leptis Magna: Knight > Knight(7)
Theveste: Knight > Knight(7)
Nora: Walls > Barracks (5)
Spanish go for Newton's
Byzantine and Viking Caravel sail alongside our shores.
Turn1 (660AD)
vetKnight @Malaca attacks PortStack, killing 1 spear, and becomes elite, back to Malaca, fortifies
4th Knight Army defeats ByzMusket on iron.
The Portuguese would make peace for 100 gold. Negotiate them to 80 and agree.
Reallocate units to Nora: now defended by 3rd Horse Army, 1 Knight, 1 Warrior, 7 Trebs. Awaiting Byzantine attack.
MM'd Sabratha to Knight in 2.
MM'd Nora to walls in 1. 4th Knight army => Nora. 1st NumMerc army => NW of Nora, joining Trebs there for protective umbrella on iron and mined tiles. Knigth at Nora Hills => Nora. 4th Knight army kills Byzantine musket, rejoining 1st army.
Cadiz: from knight(7) to NumMerc(3)
Kagoshima: from Knight(7) to NumMerc(3)
Leptis Minor: from Settler(8) to NumMerc (8)
Carthage: from Knight(5) to MedInf(1)
Hasdrubal => Utica for participation at the Royal Council
Hippo: Taxman => Scientist
<return>
IBT
Greece declared on Germans.
Spain declared on Americans.
Iroquois and Hittites make peace
Spain and Germany ally vs Byzantines
Babylon declares on Japs.
Americans, Babylonians go for JS Bach's
Portuguese stack moves between our and German border at Faro => undefended Leptis Minor. As they have RoP with Germany, this may be a threat to Carthago Novo as well.
Byzantine cavalry shows up near Nora. Byzantine musket seizes iron mine at Nora.
Carthage: MedInf > NumMerc(3)
Leptis Magna: Knight > Knight(7)
Theveste: Knight > Knight(7)
Nora: Walls > Barracks (5)
Spanish go for Newton's
Byzantine and Viking Caravel sail alongside our shores.
Turn1 (660AD)
vetKnight @Malaca attacks PortStack, killing 1 spear, and becomes elite, back to Malaca, fortifies
4th Knight Army defeats ByzMusket on iron.
The Portuguese would make peace for 100 gold. Negotiate them to 80 and agree.
Reallocate units to Nora: now defended by 3rd Horse Army, 1 Knight, 1 Warrior, 7 Trebs. Awaiting Byzantine attack.
MM'd Sabratha to Knight in 2.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Sure I can rush knights. And I agree about to have more cities, as well.
But we need more units, and we need them quick. Remember, a cavalry only can kill 1 unit at a time, regardless if it will be a knight or a NumMerc at half the costs. So, if we are attacked by 3 cavalries, but defend with 4 units, we will keep that town. And then we may have a chance to redline the cavalries and kill them with our counter-attack.
So, cheaper but good defenders are a must.
I agree though, not to forget about knigths.
[edit]continue after barbecue
But we need more units, and we need them quick. Remember, a cavalry only can kill 1 unit at a time, regardless if it will be a knight or a NumMerc at half the costs. So, if we are attacked by 3 cavalries, but defend with 4 units, we will keep that town. And then we may have a chance to redline the cavalries and kill them with our counter-attack.
So, cheaper but good defenders are a must.
I agree though, not to forget about knigths.
[edit]continue after barbecue
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
The save:
<return>
IBT
Japan and Portugal make peace.
Large Portuguese units march towards Leptis Minor
Jap Galley sinks Viking Caravel
Incas request audience, demanding alliance vs. Japs and RoP. They have Invention, Printing Press and Education. We decline their demand, but gift them with $ 10.
Byzantine cavalry vanishes in the fog, heading for German Entremont.
Byzantine fleet (2 frigates,1 Caravel) show up at Theveste
Americans start counter-attack at New Orleans
Cirta: MedInf > Knight (6)
Utica: Settler > Knight (7)
Saldae: Knight > NumMerc (8)
Hippo: Knight > NumMerc (3)
Sulcis: Settler > Courthouse (12)
Byzantines go for JS Bach's
Turn2 (670 ad)
MM'd Malaca to temple in 1
MM'd Saldae to NumMerc in 5
MM'd Theveste to Knight in 5
Relocating 3 Knights to Leptis Minor.
Relocating Knights to Rusicade and Theveste
Relocating workers
Settler @Utica => Cirta
Gathering armies #1 and 3 at Nora, whilst #4 is recovering at Sabratha.
Under the assumption that the Ports will backstab us at the next turn, we are not able to build a new town in our southwestern region. In the east, the Vikings and the Byzantines prohibit settlements. The later ones block any attempt to build a new town at our western borders. Since the Vikings obviously are crossing Iroquois territory just now, no settlements are possible in the south. Even a settlement within our borders, for the only benefit of having our sixth army, would be dangerous right now. As soon as we'd loose one city, we would loose that army as well.
Unit count:
3 settlers, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 14 knights, 9 cats, 5 armies, 17 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 1 Leader. Unit support: 25 gold
Income:
269 +103gpt (10.0.0); Invention in 48
<return>
IBT
Russia and Incans: Peace in our times
Byzantine fleet lands 1 musket next to Theveste
Byzantine cavalries head towards Entremont, 2 towards Nora
Greek Hoplite near Nora
Portuguese SoD invades our territory
American Longbows => Viking pike
City appearance reveals that the Germans and Byzantines have entered industrial age
Malaca: temple > walls (5)
Gades: temple > walls (5)
Sabratha: Knight > Knight (6)
Rusicade: Knight > MedInf (5)
Cadiz: NumMerc > NumMerc (3)
Byzantines go for JS Bach's
Turn3 (680 ad)
vetKnight @Theveste attacks Byzantine regMusket and gets killed
Trebs head towards Theveste
2 Knights from Rusicade => Theveste.
MM'd Theveste for -1fpt, MedInf in 5 (would have went to disorder at next turn). Spending gold on luxuries wouldn't have sped up building there, so I save the money. Specialist becomes taxman, as scientist wouldn't have improved research.
10 Trebs move outside Nora, bombarding Byzantine Cavalry, redlining 1, yellowing 1
4th Knight Army back from Sabratha, attacking Byzantine Cavalry, killing 1
3rd Horse Army attacks redlined Byzantine Cavalry, killing it
1st NumMerc Army and 4th Knight Army swith between Nora garrison and Treb protection.
4 native workers start forest on game at Theveste.
Intelligence reports that Portuguese SoD could go for either Americans or Vikings. Currently 5 units inside our borders. If I say nothing, at the next turn it could be 10 units. 5 we can handle, 10 we can't. I request them to leave and they angrily do.
As this has been settled now, we go for settlements. 1 settler => little lake N of Sulcis, 1 settler => hills west of Tingis. 1 settler moves => little lake west of Cirta, protected by 5th MedInf Army
Japs would sell Invention for iron, 5gpt, and 225 gold
Germans starve Entremont down (currently 7)
Unit count:
3 settlers, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 15 knights, 9 cats, 5 armies, 18 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 1 Leader. Unit support: 27 gold
Income:
341+99gpt (10.0.0); Invention in 47
<return>
IBT
America and Vikings: Peace in our times
Byzantine Cavalry retreats to Osaka, from where Musket, Longbow and Babylonian Pike show up at Nora.
Byzantines take German Richborough but loose another towns in the west to the Germans.
Ports invade our territory again.
Kagoshima: NumMerc > NumMerc (3)
Rusaddir: Market > Treb (5) (no barracks)
Incans, Ports go for Bach's
Turn 4 (690 ad)
2 trebs bombard Byzantine musket at Theveste, taking 1 hp. 2 Knights attack musket, 1 killed, 1 taking him out and retreating to Theveste for recovery.
1st NumMerc and 3rd Horse Army move with 10 trebs on iron mine, bombarding Byzantine musket, redlining him. Bombarding the Greek Hoplite causes no damage. Horse Army takes out Musket, loosing 1 hp (now 17/19)
Gracious Japs (8 cities left) would sell Invention for iron, 10 gold and 16gpt. I agree, since Japs are at war with Byzantines, Greek and Babylonians. So, they will (hopefully) take their part of the pressure, and we will be one step closer to Gunpowder propelled projectiles.
Unit count:
3 settlers, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 14 knights, 9 cats, 5 armies, 19 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 1 Leader. Unit support: 27 gold
Income:
430+88gpt (10.0.0); Gunpowder in 50
<return>
IBT
Iroquois and Byzantine ally against America
Maya declare war on Germans
Greek and Iroquois sign peace treaty
Spain and Germany ally versus Maya
Spain declares war against Inca
Americans want to extend peace treaty. We are weak at our southern borders, and Vikings show up there, so we agree. This deal is not turn-based anymore, but lasts until war is redeclared, giving us some freedom.
Hittites declare war on Americans
Hippo: NumMerc > Longbow
Carthago Novo: Walls > Library
Byzantines go for Bach's again.
German cavalry approaching Osaka kills approaching Byzantine Longbow. The Byzantine attack on Entremont seems to have failed.
Viking Caraval drops Pike at Theveste, Caravel sunk by Jap Galley
Turn 5 (700 ad)
Thanae founded west of Cirta, east of Entremont > walls
Rusuccurru founded east of Leptis Minor > walls.
We have 24 cities now, thus giving us the chance for our 6th army!
Hasdrubal => Nora, building 6th Knight Army
1st NumMerc Army loaded with elite* NumMerc at Nora, bringing it to 4 units.
3rd Horse Army kills Greek Hoplite.
1st NumMerc Army & 11 trebs => Osaka
4th and 6th Knight Army => Osaka
Trebs at Theveste bombard regular Pike for nothing
Relocating Knight at southern borders.
Unit count:
1 settler, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 14 knights, 9 cats, 6 armies, 20 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 0 Leader. Unit support: 22 gold
Income:
560 +140gpt (10.0.0); Gunpowder in 49
End of my turns
[edit] Where is the save????
[edit2] Now, it's on top
<return>
IBT
Japan and Portugal make peace.
Large Portuguese units march towards Leptis Minor
Jap Galley sinks Viking Caravel
Incas request audience, demanding alliance vs. Japs and RoP. They have Invention, Printing Press and Education. We decline their demand, but gift them with $ 10.
Byzantine cavalry vanishes in the fog, heading for German Entremont.
Byzantine fleet (2 frigates,1 Caravel) show up at Theveste
Americans start counter-attack at New Orleans
Cirta: MedInf > Knight (6)
Utica: Settler > Knight (7)
Saldae: Knight > NumMerc (8)
Hippo: Knight > NumMerc (3)
Sulcis: Settler > Courthouse (12)
Byzantines go for JS Bach's
Turn2 (670 ad)
MM'd Malaca to temple in 1
MM'd Saldae to NumMerc in 5
MM'd Theveste to Knight in 5
Relocating 3 Knights to Leptis Minor.
Relocating Knights to Rusicade and Theveste
Relocating workers
Settler @Utica => Cirta
Gathering armies #1 and 3 at Nora, whilst #4 is recovering at Sabratha.
Under the assumption that the Ports will backstab us at the next turn, we are not able to build a new town in our southwestern region. In the east, the Vikings and the Byzantines prohibit settlements. The later ones block any attempt to build a new town at our western borders. Since the Vikings obviously are crossing Iroquois territory just now, no settlements are possible in the south. Even a settlement within our borders, for the only benefit of having our sixth army, would be dangerous right now. As soon as we'd loose one city, we would loose that army as well.
Unit count:
3 settlers, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 14 knights, 9 cats, 5 armies, 17 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 1 Leader. Unit support: 25 gold
Income:
269 +103gpt (10.0.0); Invention in 48
<return>
IBT
Russia and Incans: Peace in our times
Byzantine fleet lands 1 musket next to Theveste
Byzantine cavalries head towards Entremont, 2 towards Nora
Greek Hoplite near Nora
Portuguese SoD invades our territory
American Longbows => Viking pike
City appearance reveals that the Germans and Byzantines have entered industrial age
Malaca: temple > walls (5)
Gades: temple > walls (5)
Sabratha: Knight > Knight (6)
Rusicade: Knight > MedInf (5)
Cadiz: NumMerc > NumMerc (3)
Byzantines go for JS Bach's
Turn3 (680 ad)
vetKnight @Theveste attacks Byzantine regMusket and gets killed
Trebs head towards Theveste
2 Knights from Rusicade => Theveste.
MM'd Theveste for -1fpt, MedInf in 5 (would have went to disorder at next turn). Spending gold on luxuries wouldn't have sped up building there, so I save the money. Specialist becomes taxman, as scientist wouldn't have improved research.
10 Trebs move outside Nora, bombarding Byzantine Cavalry, redlining 1, yellowing 1
4th Knight Army back from Sabratha, attacking Byzantine Cavalry, killing 1
3rd Horse Army attacks redlined Byzantine Cavalry, killing it
1st NumMerc Army and 4th Knight Army swith between Nora garrison and Treb protection.
4 native workers start forest on game at Theveste.
Intelligence reports that Portuguese SoD could go for either Americans or Vikings. Currently 5 units inside our borders. If I say nothing, at the next turn it could be 10 units. 5 we can handle, 10 we can't. I request them to leave and they angrily do.
As this has been settled now, we go for settlements. 1 settler => little lake N of Sulcis, 1 settler => hills west of Tingis. 1 settler moves => little lake west of Cirta, protected by 5th MedInf Army
Japs would sell Invention for iron, 5gpt, and 225 gold
Germans starve Entremont down (currently 7)
Unit count:
3 settlers, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 15 knights, 9 cats, 5 armies, 18 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 1 Leader. Unit support: 27 gold
Income:
341+99gpt (10.0.0); Invention in 47
<return>
IBT
America and Vikings: Peace in our times
Byzantine Cavalry retreats to Osaka, from where Musket, Longbow and Babylonian Pike show up at Nora.
Byzantines take German Richborough but loose another towns in the west to the Germans.
Ports invade our territory again.
Kagoshima: NumMerc > NumMerc (3)
Rusaddir: Market > Treb (5) (no barracks)
Incans, Ports go for Bach's
Turn 4 (690 ad)
2 trebs bombard Byzantine musket at Theveste, taking 1 hp. 2 Knights attack musket, 1 killed, 1 taking him out and retreating to Theveste for recovery.
1st NumMerc and 3rd Horse Army move with 10 trebs on iron mine, bombarding Byzantine musket, redlining him. Bombarding the Greek Hoplite causes no damage. Horse Army takes out Musket, loosing 1 hp (now 17/19)
Gracious Japs (8 cities left) would sell Invention for iron, 10 gold and 16gpt. I agree, since Japs are at war with Byzantines, Greek and Babylonians. So, they will (hopefully) take their part of the pressure, and we will be one step closer to Gunpowder propelled projectiles.
Unit count:
3 settlers, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 14 knights, 9 cats, 5 armies, 19 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 1 Leader. Unit support: 27 gold
Income:
430+88gpt (10.0.0); Gunpowder in 50
<return>
IBT
Iroquois and Byzantine ally against America
Maya declare war on Germans
Greek and Iroquois sign peace treaty
Spain and Germany ally versus Maya
Spain declares war against Inca
Americans want to extend peace treaty. We are weak at our southern borders, and Vikings show up there, so we agree. This deal is not turn-based anymore, but lasts until war is redeclared, giving us some freedom.
Hittites declare war on Americans
Hippo: NumMerc > Longbow
Carthago Novo: Walls > Library
Byzantines go for Bach's again.
German cavalry approaching Osaka kills approaching Byzantine Longbow. The Byzantine attack on Entremont seems to have failed.
Viking Caraval drops Pike at Theveste, Caravel sunk by Jap Galley
Turn 5 (700 ad)
Thanae founded west of Cirta, east of Entremont > walls
Rusuccurru founded east of Leptis Minor > walls.
We have 24 cities now, thus giving us the chance for our 6th army!
Hasdrubal => Nora, building 6th Knight Army
1st NumMerc Army loaded with elite* NumMerc at Nora, bringing it to 4 units.
3rd Horse Army kills Greek Hoplite.
1st NumMerc Army & 11 trebs => Osaka
4th and 6th Knight Army => Osaka
Trebs at Theveste bombard regular Pike for nothing
Relocating Knight at southern borders.
Unit count:
1 settler, 6 native workers, 8 warriors, 4 horses, 14 knights, 9 cats, 6 armies, 20 NumMercs, 6 MedInfs, 12 Trebs, 0 Leader. Unit support: 22 gold
Income:
560 +140gpt (10.0.0); Gunpowder in 49
End of my turns
[edit] Where is the save????
[edit2] Now, it's on top
Gengis Khan
Deity
Looking good for the hand you were dealt. What's the roster again?
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
It should be Andvruss now, under the assumption that he went through his other games.
If not, it would be Gormdragan, I guess, and then you, Akots and Andvruss, whenever he is ready to join us again.
If not, it would be Gormdragan, I guess, and then you, Akots and Andvruss, whenever he is ready to join us again.
akots
Poet
Good turns, we are still alive! But how to catch up in techs? That's the big question!
Roster:
Gormdragan is UP
Lets wait this time. Otherwise, looks like 3 people only are playing this game.
However, if he does not show up in 24 hours, andvruss can grab the save and play his 5 or 10 turns.
Roster:
Gormdragan is UP
Lets wait this time. Otherwise, looks like 3 people only are playing this game.
However, if he does not show up in 24 hours, andvruss can grab the save and play his 5 or 10 turns.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
About the techs: I would propose to have some kind of "alibi" scientist sitting around, so that we indeed will progress technologically. And the rest has to be done just by money.
What is frightening is that we are just past invention and the Germans and the Byzantines soon will show up with riflemen.
Perhaps, we should get Osaka (and maybe another Byzantine town) and then make peace for techs and try to switch sides, making then an alliance with the warmongering Theodora (look at her diplomatic relationships at f4 - this really is funny) against the Germans or preferrably another mid-size empire to get the next techs.
Even an attack in between against the Vikings at San Francisco might pay off. But for that we first would have to relocate one of our knight armies to the south (and to collect another stack of trebs down there).
I really hope that we may get Gunpowder cheap and find some saltpeter within our borders, so that we could upgrade to muskets soon.
Another point we have to take care of is the situation on iron. As I've traded it with the Japs, this one mine next to Nora is crucial for us. And at the time being, it is under constant (although yet weak) attack from our opponents. A fortress - better a barricades - on top of it might be helpful.
What is frightening is that we are just past invention and the Germans and the Byzantines soon will show up with riflemen.
Perhaps, we should get Osaka (and maybe another Byzantine town) and then make peace for techs and try to switch sides, making then an alliance with the warmongering Theodora (look at her diplomatic relationships at f4 - this really is funny) against the Germans or preferrably another mid-size empire to get the next techs.
Even an attack in between against the Vikings at San Francisco might pay off. But for that we first would have to relocate one of our knight armies to the south (and to collect another stack of trebs down there).
I really hope that we may get Gunpowder cheap and find some saltpeter within our borders, so that we could upgrade to muskets soon.
Another point we have to take care of is the situation on iron. As I've traded it with the Japs, this one mine next to Nora is crucial for us. And at the time being, it is under constant (although yet weak) attack from our opponents. A fortress - better a barricades - on top of it might be helpful.
gormdragan
King
I will not be able to play until the weekend at the earliest.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
If Andvruss doesn't show up in time, it would be GK's turn, as I see it???
Preturn: Check diplo. No trades available.
Fire tax in Rusicade.
IBT: Iroquois and Bys sign alliance vs us
Potugal and Byzatines sign alliance vs Germany
Byzs drop of a cav next to Carthage
Inca and Iroquois sign alliace vs America
Iroquois and German sign alliance vs Maya
German pike kills Byz spear in Osaka
Japan asks us to withdraw, and our troops automatically do
Viking pike pillages next to Carthage
america ends the 15gpt for horses deal......they dont have enough gpt apparently
Carthage NM-NM
Tingis walls-temple
Cadiz NM-NM
Nora rax-trebuchet
710: Found al-Kaf on the hill3 tiles SW of Tingis.
Trebs bombard Osaka and cavs on a mountain
Vet MDI barely kills 3 hp cav next to carthage
NM Army kills 3 hp spear in Osaka, -2hp
Knight Army kills 2 hp spear, -2hp, and we take the city. I choose to capture it, along with 6 workers and 1 happy Japanese citizen
Horse army kills 2 hp pike, and runs to Nora to rest
Vet knights kill 3 hp spear, -1hp
MM Sabartha with growth in 4 instead of never, and knight still in 4
IBT: Byzatine cav captures a treb
Byz cav kills knight in southern city, only defended by a warrior and 2 cats now. I see a Byz MGL emerge from that abttle, and run into the fog
. They land another cav
America and Greece sign peace
Viking 2 hp pike dies atacking a 1 hp MDI, promotes to elite
Viking land a berserk......good thing they didn't attack amphibious with it!
Kagoshima NM-NM
Salade NM-NM
Leptis Minor NM-settler. Should be MMed every turn betweena floddplain and mined desert tile.
720: Trebs bombard berserk to 1 hp
Vet knight flalessly kills it
I take a couple chances here. Pull NM out of Cadiz, and it makes the cav retreat with 1 hp without losing any HP. However, NM out of Carthage does no damage. Warrior from Leptis Magna loses 1 hp but kills the 1 hp cav
Horse Army flawlessly kills 2 hp cav
MDI army recaptures our treb
Rush NM in Cadiz
Germany and BYzs sign peace
Byzs and Inca sign peace
lose 2 knights to Byz cavs. More cavs come into our lands.
Cirta knight-knight
Leptis Magna knight-knight
Theveste knight-knight
Gades walls-NM
Rusicade MDI-NM
Cadiz NM-NM
730: Alliance with Germany against Byzs for 45gpt.
Knight army ills 2 hp musket on our iron, -2hp
Knight army kills 2 hp cav on mtn, no loss
Vet NM kills 1 hp cav outside of city, -2hp
Sign RoP with Germany. Goto annoyed
IBT: Inca and Byzs sign alliace vs us
Reg warrior across river in Gades barely defeats 1 hp cav.
Cav kills NM, Byzs capture 4 trebs
Greece and Japan sign peace
Malaca walls-settler
Hippo LBM-NM
Sabratha knight-knight
Rusaddir treb-treb
740: NM army flawlessly kills 2 hp pike
Vet knight flawlessly kills 2 hp cav, and we recapture 4 trebs
Knight army kills 1 hp cav on grass, and 1 hp cav on mtn, -1hp
IBT: 2hp NM forces cav to retreat
Hitties and Germany sign alliance vs Portugal
Maya and America sign peace
Japan and Babalyon sign peace
Carthage NM-NM
Utica knight-knight
Kagoshima NM-NM
Rusicade NM-NM
750: Knight army kills vet cavm -5 or so hp
Couple deals end
Trade wines, horses, furs, 29gpt and 250 gold to Portugal for education
Hm, can't see any other trades......next player can look also.
Fire tax in Rusicade.
IBT: Iroquois and Bys sign alliance vs us
Potugal and Byzatines sign alliance vs Germany
Byzs drop of a cav next to Carthage
Inca and Iroquois sign alliace vs America
Iroquois and German sign alliance vs Maya
German pike kills Byz spear in Osaka
Japan asks us to withdraw, and our troops automatically do
Viking pike pillages next to Carthage
america ends the 15gpt for horses deal......they dont have enough gpt apparently
Carthage NM-NM
Tingis walls-temple
Cadiz NM-NM
Nora rax-trebuchet
710: Found al-Kaf on the hill3 tiles SW of Tingis.
Trebs bombard Osaka and cavs on a mountain
Vet MDI barely kills 3 hp cav next to carthage
NM Army kills 3 hp spear in Osaka, -2hp
Knight Army kills 2 hp spear, -2hp, and we take the city. I choose to capture it, along with 6 workers and 1 happy Japanese citizen
Horse army kills 2 hp pike, and runs to Nora to rest
Vet knights kill 3 hp spear, -1hp
MM Sabartha with growth in 4 instead of never, and knight still in 4
IBT: Byzatine cav captures a treb
Byz cav kills knight in southern city, only defended by a warrior and 2 cats now. I see a Byz MGL emerge from that abttle, and run into the fog
. They land another cavAmerica and Greece sign peace
Viking 2 hp pike dies atacking a 1 hp MDI, promotes to elite
Viking land a berserk......good thing they didn't attack amphibious with it!
Kagoshima NM-NM
Salade NM-NM
Leptis Minor NM-settler. Should be MMed every turn betweena floddplain and mined desert tile.
720: Trebs bombard berserk to 1 hp
Vet knight flalessly kills it
I take a couple chances here. Pull NM out of Cadiz, and it makes the cav retreat with 1 hp without losing any HP. However, NM out of Carthage does no damage. Warrior from Leptis Magna loses 1 hp but kills the 1 hp cav
Horse Army flawlessly kills 2 hp cav
MDI army recaptures our treb
Rush NM in Cadiz
Germany and BYzs sign peace
Byzs and Inca sign peace
lose 2 knights to Byz cavs. More cavs come into our lands.
Cirta knight-knight
Leptis Magna knight-knight
Theveste knight-knight
Gades walls-NM
Rusicade MDI-NM
Cadiz NM-NM
730: Alliance with Germany against Byzs for 45gpt.
Knight army ills 2 hp musket on our iron, -2hp
Knight army kills 2 hp cav on mtn, no loss
Vet NM kills 1 hp cav outside of city, -2hp
Sign RoP with Germany. Goto annoyed
IBT: Inca and Byzs sign alliace vs us
Reg warrior across river in Gades barely defeats 1 hp cav.
Cav kills NM, Byzs capture 4 trebs
Greece and Japan sign peace
Malaca walls-settler
Hippo LBM-NM
Sabratha knight-knight
Rusaddir treb-treb
740: NM army flawlessly kills 2 hp pike
Vet knight flawlessly kills 2 hp cav, and we recapture 4 trebs
Knight army kills 1 hp cav on grass, and 1 hp cav on mtn, -1hp
IBT: 2hp NM forces cav to retreat
Hitties and Germany sign alliance vs Portugal
Maya and America sign peace
Japan and Babalyon sign peace
Carthage NM-NM
Utica knight-knight
Kagoshima NM-NM
Rusicade NM-NM
750: Knight army kills vet cavm -5 or so hp
Couple deals end
Trade wines, horses, furs, 29gpt and 250 gold to Portugal for education
Hm, can't see any other trades......next player can look also.
akots
Poet
OK, good turns, we are still alive. It might have been better to trade Gunpowder instead of Education, but better this than nothing. Looks like we would not be able to catch up by capturing TGL.
Gormdragan is UP. There is a plenty of time to play till Sunday night. And it is only 5 turns.
Gormdragan is UP. There is a plenty of time to play till Sunday night. And it is only 5 turns.
gormdragan
King
I originally intended to play this SG during Memorial Day weekend. Unfortunately, I am called off for work. Will be away for about 2 weeks in Louisiana, not sure if I will have internet but if I do I will play while I am there. Sorry guys.
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