We are all half banana!

[Gary Childress]

Sure. But the main point is that if you can increase your faith (in anyway, not necessarily religious one) your life is bound to change. Becouse our potential is unlimited. Faith is only a bridge to this yet unrevealed potential.

I don't know. I'm somewhat skeptical these days of the notion of some sort of heightened state of mind or something called "spiritual enlightenment" or whatever. I've met people before who thought they were prophets or something. The ones I have met always seem to have delusions of grandeur and/or are overcompensating for prior feelings of inferiority or something. I've never met the Pope or the Dali Lama, etc. so maybe there are truly "enlightened" people out there that I just haven't had the fortune to encounter but what I've seen so far seemed like facades to me.

All in all there's no harm in being excited about life and feeling elated over reading a passage in a "sacred" text (indeed it's a great thing) but when they start looking for disciples or trying to convince me they can walk on water I start to get a little turned off.

 

[Lohrenswald]

I still don't understand what you're "upset" about, Tim. And I think it's pretty stupid to postulate that Odin is the missing link in this quantum physics mystery

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I still don't understand what you're "upset" about, Tim. And I think it's pretty stupid to postulate that Odin is the missing link in this quantum physics mystery

Why? At the end of the day the point of a "missing" link is that it is an unknown. I put no particular limits on what that unknown might be, myself. I used to say Zeus at times like that, but some Greeks got upset because apparently they thought I was implying modern Greeks are some sort of backwards, so now I say Odin. A lot of times I say Hermann, who I made up whole cloth. The point is that UNKNOWN is unknown, and could be anything.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

I don't know. I'm somewhat skeptical these days of the notion of some sort of heightened state of mind or something called "spiritual enlightenment" or whatever. I've met people before who thought they were prophets or something. The ones I have met always seem to have delusions of grandeur and/or are overcompensating for prior feelings of inferiority or something. I've never met the Pope or the Dali Lama, etc. so maybe there are truly "enlightened" people out there that I just haven't had the fortune to encounter but what I've seen so far seemed like facades to me.

All in all there's no harm in being excited about life and feeling elated over reading a passage in a "sacred" text (indeed it's a great thing) but when they start looking for disciples or trying to convince me they can walk on water I start to get a little turned off.

Yeah I never said its easy to increase ones faith. But one sure way to do that is through self-transcendence. Try something simple like running
/ jogging. You are bound to get some joy.

 

[bhavv]

Wait so now faith = joy???

In what language?

Doing exercise is going to turn me into a faith based Jesus freak? Well then, I'll never be exercising again!

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Wait so now faith = joy???

In what language?

Doing exercise is going to turn me into a faith based Jesus freak? Well then, I'll never be exercising again!

Lol. I am beginnig to see that people indeed have some banana potential in them.
If you increase your capacity you increase also your faith in yourself. Quite naturally its accompanied with joy. And when you are happy it allows you to bring your potential to the fore.

 

[bhavv]

I assume by that you mean that banana potential is vastly beyond the potential you show in your posts.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Unfortunately we are only 50% bananas...

 

[bhavv]

So now faith = hope, joy, confidence, and anti suicide.

This is exactly why I have no faith in humanity because such nonsense is spewed from it.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

So now faith = hope, joy, confidence, and anti suicide.

This is exactly why I have no faith in humanity because such nonsense is spewed from it.

You have no faith in humanity? But we can grow lots of bananas!

My banana is telling me you need to take closer look at human psychology.

 

[bhavv]

Humans are not needed for the growth of bananas. We only do so selfishly to support our unnatural vastly increasing population.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Humans are not needed for the growth of bananas. We only do so selfishly to support our unnatural vastly increasing population.

But we have incredibly good reason to be selfish since we are half bananas.

 

[bhavv]

Wrong thread

 

[Lohrenswald]

Why? At the end of the day the point of a "missing" link is that it is an unknown. I put no particular limits on what that unknown might be, myself. I used to say Zeus at times like that, but some Greeks got upset because apparently they thought I was implying modern Greeks are some sort of backwards, so now I say Odin. A lot of times I say Hermann, who I made up whole cloth. The point is that UNKNOWN is unknown, and could be anything.

That's like trying to fit a square in a circular hole.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

@Formaldehyde: Thank you for the link. I need to do some reviewing, obviously.

I first learned about the holocaust when someone (I think it was my mother) gave me a book by Kitty Hart, saying "you should read this". I was 14, iirc.

I didn't know what it was at all! I thought at first it was some kind of perverse science fiction story, as I was reading a lot of SF at the time.

Did you never attend any kind of Remembrance Day ceremony, or watch them on TV? Kids here are taught about the Holocaust as a matter of course when learning about World War I, World War II, and Remembrance Day. I think I was about 9 or so when I learned about it, and kids much younger are routinely brought to the Parliament Hill ceremonies.

Evolution crosses over between biology, earth science, chemistry , and probably many other fields of study too.

At the university I went to, I found out from a friend who was studying such modules that a Biology major and Earth Science minor at that uni was the best way to go for focusing on evolution. There were 3 separate modules dedicated to the study of evolution, plain human evolution in human biology, an environmental module relating to plant and bacterial evolution, and an earth science module relating to the fossil and earth evidence of evolution. She did those 3 and the remaining 3 modules in human biology.

Like I say, I had no idea about any of this level of specialization, I was just like 'I like these subjects so I will do them'. Otherwise if I had gone to study a few years later with more knowleedge on how huge evolution was, I'd have done a similar Biology / Earth Science combination instead of minoring in music.

There's so much information involved in each science these days that it's not surprising how extremely specialized some fields are.

My own approach to evolution involved anthropology and geography, which complimented each other quite nicely in some areas. I did study dating methods (dating of artifacts and remains, not human social interaction!) but nothing on the list Formaldehyde linked that was below radiocarbon.

Yeah I never said its easy to increase ones faith. But one sure way to do that is through self-transcendence. Try something simple like running
/ jogging. You are bound to get some joy.

That's just chemistry and it doesn't last.

...the great holy banana created us all in its image.

This thread is getting far too serious and depressing. Time for some fun (I just did a silly dance in front of my computer when listening to this, as it took me back to my childhood ):


Link to video.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

That's like trying to fit a square in a circular hole.

Well, "universal consciousness" probably fits better, but doesn't convey the "could be anything" aspect nearly as well. Plus I tend to at least try to tip the cap to ancient people who may have had a strange way of dealing with the unknowable component of reality but at least their way didn't involve just pretending it wasn't there.

 

[Gary Childress]

This thread is getting far too serious and depressing. Time for some fun (I just did a silly dance in front of my computer when listening to this, as it took me back to my childhood ):


Link to video.

Yay for the Banana Splits! Loved those guys as a kid too.

 

[Borachio]

In a different definition of faith.

Well, I don't know what definition you're using, do I?

faith/feɪθ/noun
1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2. strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.

I wouldn't have said that 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive myself.


Link to video.

 

[bhavv]

Both those definitions of faith are something I do not have.

 

[Borachio]

I have complete confidence that one day I shall take a final breath.