What could disprove your religious beliefs?

[CurtSibling]

At the end of the day, many people rely on a whole range of icons/totems/ideals to give them strength.

Relgion plays as much a part in my life as tennis. Which amounts to about zero.

I am the arch-cynic, I take the diproval or collapse of accepted ideas as a valid 'told-you-so' opportunity.

What could stop me being cynical?

Such a thing is not possible...

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Phydeaux


I don't think your going to believe me but. Many people here God not with ears but in the spirit. Thats because many people are so religious that they never get in contact with God. God just wants us to worship Him and love Him, He could care less if you go to church and do all those religious things. At least my God does. Also this is not the only thing that God dose in my life (and many people that I know).

1 Seeing whats going to happen before it happens.
2 God speeking to me.
3 God healing me.
4 God just showing me what to do.
5 My spirit being tuched by the holy spirit (God) When that happens I shake and some times fall to the ground.
6 Speeking in tungs, knowing what people say in tungs and anything that has to do with tungs.
I could go on and on...

Can any one disprove that?

Would you care to give us some examples of this amazing set of claims...

I too could say that Gandalf comes to my house every week for afternoon tea,
and tells me the name of the winning horse of the grand national races.

Please prove it, or I will yell fake.

 

[Phydeaux]

Originally posted by floppa21
You say God doesn't care if we go to church, He just wants us to worship Him. You think worshipping is important to Him? You are crazy then. I will tell you that your God does not exist. It is one of many fabricated Gods made by man, for man. You are not worshiping a true God. You are worshiping a created God. Wouldn't it be better to just worship the man that created your God?

1) You claim to see the future? Psychotic delusional.

2) You have any fillings or braces?

3) I guess God is in the aspirin, not just the television eh?

4) God is a hunch.

5) Epileptic seizures. Isn't that a form of handicap, thus a DEMON is in you? We should drive you off a cliff! Be glad I don't know where you live or I'd find a cliff near you and we'd be in business.

6) I have heard this 'speaking in tongues' and it is BS. I have heard people fake it just to fit in. Peer pressure at church...

You can go on and on. So can I.

Worshiping Him is what He wants us to do the most. That is why He made us right to worship Him? Psychotic delusional? These things come tru, there not just thoughts that never come to pass. God does not heal every thing so that I have no pain. Fillings is not the kind of healing I ment. If they where Epileptic seizures all of the people in my church and I would be dead by now.
You may think it's BS but you do not realy know untell you do it, and not jsut going bsbdsfiusfghdptgrig it's much much more it's only when you filled with the holy spirit that you speak in tungs. Yes some people do, those are people who do not realy understand the things of God.

 

[CurtSibling]

What if I told you, Phydeaux, that I reckon all this supposed 'divine power' is a product of an over-active gland in the brain?

 

[Phydeaux]

Originally posted by CurtSibling


Would you care to give us some examples of this amazing set of claims...

I too could say that Gandalf comes to my house every week for afternoon tea,
and tells me the name of the winning horse of the grand national races.

Please prove it, or I will yell fake.

As I have said before I do not know a way of proving that God is real. Many people have had the same things happen to them, I'm not the only one.

 

[Phydeaux]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
What if I told you, Phydeaux, that I reckon all this supposed 'divine power' is a product of an over-active gland in the brain?

Wow never knew that an over-active gland can heal and make it so I can see things that are going to happen before they happen. This is BS.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Phydeaux


Wow never knew that an over-active gland can heal and make it so I can see things that are going to happen before they happen. This is BS.

Not the academic reasoning I had hoped for, to be frank.

Now, arise above the level of the fanciful claimant, feed my mind.

Tell me, why I should give credence to your claims.

Or it's fake time.

 

[Phydeaux]

What do you want from me? How can I prove that these things happen to me? All that I know is that they did. As I said before I am not the only one.

 

[WillJ]

@Phydeaux: What do you mean by "seeing whats going to happen before it happens"? I've never heard a Christian say that before, and in fact I've heard many Christians say that people who can see the future are going against God.

If God does indeed let you see the future, care to prove it here at CFC (by making a prediction and letting us see if it comes true)?

 

[De Lorimier]

I want to offer my sincere congratulations to those of you who have the patience (or enough time to waste) to argue with somebody who talks to a god and, especially, who receives answer. CFC wouldn't be the same without you all!

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Phydeaux
What do you want from me? How can I prove that these things happen to me? All that I know is that they did. As I said before I am not the only one.

Can you make a recording of god speaking?

Or perhaps you can quote some the things he says...

I'm serious.

 

[FredLC]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Or perhaps you can quote some the things he says...

Oh, Curt. Whatever he quote, there will be a biblical justification proving that this is very compatible with God.

And don't you know that his voice can only be heard by humans and their godly engeneered ears, not by some silly human-made gadget such as a recorder?



Anyway, with all my honest, I'd like to suggest Phydeaux that if he is prone to attacks that make him go limb, he better stop praying when he recovers and go look for a neurologist before it happens when he is driving, swimming, walking by a cliff, or some other potentially dangerous circunstance.

Regards .

 

[Phydeaux]

Originally posted by WillJ
@Phydeaux: What do you mean by "seeing whats going to happen before it happens"? I've never heard a Christian say that before, and in fact I've heard many Christians say that people who can see the future are going against God.

If God does indeed let you see the future, care to prove it here at CFC (by making a prediction and letting us see if it comes true)?

Going against God in what way? If I tell you what's going to happen then it will not happen. I don't get to know every thing I want to know only what God wants me to know.

 

[CurtSibling]

Phydeaux, please feel free to take part in my new thread...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64921

 

[Phydeaux]

Can you make a recording of god speaking?

Do you have a spirit recorder?

Or perhaps you can quote some the things he says...

I'm serious.

Would you believe me if I did? I don't think so.

 

[lz14]

For myself, the only power God still has is the creation of the world. Christianity has a relative solid explanation on this point, i.e God did.
If you think universe/time is finite, then there must be a beginning, you would have trouble to explain things before the beginning. If it's all infinite, well, it kind of doesn't feel right. So yeah, *God* still has rooms to live, he lives before the beginning.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Phydeaux
Can you make a recording of god speaking?

Do you have a spirit recorder?

Or perhaps you can quote some the things he says...

I'm serious.

Would you believe me if I did? I don't think so.

I wouldn't ask you for quotes if I wasn't genuinely interested in what you have to say.

Don't assume I am an unapproachable fascist, unable to sympathise with people.

I really want to hear what kind of things you have been told.

So go on, I would under no circumstances laugh at you.

 

[nihilistic]

Originally posted by Phydeaux
Worshiping Him is what He wants us to do the most.

That is actually one of my main objections against most fo the organized religions that exist today. That claim is by no means logical nor have you (or anyone else) presented a plausible case for it.

Originally posted by Phydeaux
These things come tru, there not just thoughts that never come to pass.

Are we posting in different languages? Or are you just trying to sound as unintelligible or stupid as you can?

Originally posted by Phydeaux
... those are people who do not realy understand the things of God.

So by that comment, can I presume that you understand "the things of God"? Can I presume that by that comment, you can demonstrate how your religion is superior to Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism ....

 

[James_Derrin]

Nothing can disprove my religious beliefs, as I have no religion.

 

[PantheraTigris2]

Originally posted by Hitro
Well, obviously this question goes out to those who have religious beliefs, wise a*s answers like "nuttin', I ain't got no religion" are therefore already given.

There are numerous threads in this OT forum alone about Evolution vs. Creation as loads of other religion vs. science topics.
I, like others, usually don't take much part in them because I regard it as futile to discuss things that appear to be on completely different levels. In other words, I've never seen someone saying "oh damn, you're right, my belief makes no sense".

But maybe I am wrong. Maybe there are things that could make religious people change their mind.

So do they exist?

Can someone believing in Creation even imagining seeing a solid proof for a different truth (like Evolution)?

Would the discovery of extraterrestrial life (not necessarily intelligent life!) change your views?

Which other views would be changed by what?

Or is it not imaginable at all?

Oh my, I started a religious thread...

"Nuts!"