What do you need to be virtually self sustainable on a BOAT?

Ah, a nice topic i haven't seen before. Was thinking myself of buying a small apartment with ocean views but prices are so prohibitive a ship of 14-15 meters or even some more would make more sense, even adding the price of the moorage. That way I would have as many ocean views as desired and a ship has always an extra cool factor. I have some notions about sailing and such as I have always been closely related to the sea and have used small zodiac boats for fishing and such. Never had a big boat though and should get the mandatory sailing license before buying one.

First thing to have in mind is sail versus motor. For the same length, a motorboat has always more living space, however fuel cost would be prohibitive and I don't like to navigate while hearing and smelling a diesel engine. Sail boat otoh are less habitable but you can sail almost for free (not counting changing sails every x years) and are extra cool. So if you want a boat to only live in it, an old motorboat or even a barge, if you want also to go out and navigate, a sail boat.

A main factor to have in mind is hull material. There are several options here:
-Fiber-glass is the most common and most balanced all things considered but with time water can affect it and develop some illness such as osmosis which are difficult and expensive to repair.
-Steel is the most resistant of all materials but salty water is extremely corrosive so you always will have a disc grinder in a hand and a paint bucket in the other one. It is relatively easy to repair though. It is also heavy and most adequate for large boats.
-A wood boat otoh if property built resists (salty) water the best, but requires some love, and rain water can rot it in a eyeblink. It is a good option for the sea, but you will learn carpentry like it or not.
-Aluminum is probably the best material for sail boats. It is light, resistant and won't rust, it is however hard to repair and expensive. Short circuits and such can be specially dangerous as a bad insulated wire can make a big hole in an aluminum hull in no time.
-Ferrocement boats otoh (yes there are boats made of cement) are sturdy, relatively cheap, easy to repair, fresh in summer and warm in winter and won't rust or rot or suffer of osmosis. Ferro cement is the most heavy of all though and just as steel not suitable for small ships under 16-17 meters. Weight makes them slower than other options too.
-There are also exotic materials as copper-nickel that are mostly perfect in every aspect and won't even get any fouling, but obviously are terribly expensive and boats made of this material are very rare.

So I would go with a ferrocement motorboat if the main goal is to live aboard and only get out of the harbor occasionally and a fiber-glass or aluminium sailboat if sailing is the main thing. A compromise solution would be a motorsailer, a bit of both worlds, can navigate with sails (kind of) and is more habitable than a pure sailboat of similar size.

About what equipment to install to make life aboard more self-sufficient such as solar panels, desalination plants and such it is a extensive topic, but space is always the most precious thing in a ship, and these things require space, so the bigger the ship the more possibilities in this sense. In my case I would always prefer to have a proper moorage with power, water and drain connections so it would not be an important aspect.

In any case a very complex and interesting topic and an option to consider given the price of houses, specially if you love the ocean.

Ah what a knowledgeable fish I caught! I had never heard of this Ferrocement before, that is very cool indeed. I found a gallery of someone building their own!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dennisgsy/albums/72157627316275915/with/10950378565

I don't think it would be much good out at sea though, more likely pootling about in canals.

You've put in my mind that increasingly (here in the UK) barges and even small floating homes are taking spaces in harbours and docs. It is far cheaper to build a floating shed than it is a house.
 
Do you still want to move around all the time? I like having my own little chunk of the universe, I don’t need to see, let alone live in, all of it.

I've done a lot of travel over the years, but certainly now I have developed much deeper roots to the city I live in. The wanderlust, and the desire to live somewhere "tropical" is still pretty strong. I am scum a landlord, so unless I moved it all to a fully managed arrangement, I do kind of need to be here too. I am also single, again, so moving around isn't as impossible as it was.
 
Ah what a knowledgeable fish I caught! I had never heard of this Ferrocement before, that is very cool indeed. I found a gallery of someone building their own!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dennisgsy/albums/72157627316275915/with/10950378565

I don't think it would be much good out at sea though, more likely pootling about in canals.

You've put in my mind that increasingly (here in the UK) barges and even small floating homes are taking spaces in harbours and docs. It is far cheaper to build a floating shed than it is a house.
Yes, ferrocement is the best material if you are a DIY kind of guy and have a big backyard and some tons of free time.

But it doesn't need to big bulky tugboats, they can be also gracile sail boats:

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Gracile in appearance at least, that thing weights 40 tons. :shifty:

Read somewhere that after steel ships, they are the most abundant in places with rough weather and floating ice. For instance in Ushuaia harbor near the Antarctica.
 
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All you need is a device that will filter your urine back into drinkable water and a fishing rod, right?
I'd say if you're on a boat, some basic glassware in which you can put some water you're floating on and collect the evaporation would be simpler and more efficient.
 
I feel like this thread popped up proactively before I mentioned my Plan D... but yeah.
 
Nice link, but I didn't see a price tag.....$$$$$
 
It says price is similar to equivalent conventional superyachts. So a mountain of money.
 
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