What do you think about Dawkins?

[Flying Pig]

I don't read it, but having looked it up I don't believe the argument, since it hinges on the theory that humans 'naturally' believe in God, which is wrong. Humans believe what they are taught, and religion is one of those things that gets taught a lot

 

[Erik Mesoy]

I've met people like CivG before IR. By posting that you just basically told me that they're acting like they're mentally ill lol:.

I don't know who "they" is. What I told you, basically or not, is that CivG is mentally ill, in a manner unrelated to religion.

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EDIT: Also, what Masada said. In general, more asking a theologian, less anecdotal evidence and generalisations over the loudest Christians you're personally familiar with plz.

 

[GenMarshall]

Did you learn something from it?

No. Plus the fact that I don't announce that I am questioning the existence of God unless I am ready.

I don't read it, but having looked it up I don't believe the argument, since it hinges on the theory that humans 'naturally' believe in God, which is wrong. Humans believe what they are taught, and religion is one of those things that gets taught a lot

This is true. Though what about people who have not been to church in a while? How does the disbelief in God happen?

What I told you, basically or not, is that CivG is mentally ill, in a manner unrelated to religion.

I'm not a mental moron nor am I disabled -_-.

 

[Flying Pig]

I think once you stop being taught, you start questioning, which in my view leads to atheism. I'm a 'foxhole atheist' in that I stopped believing in God when I saw things that meant he was either not worth worshipping or not there.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

I'm not a mental moron nor am I disabled -_-.

That's why I said only "mentally ill" and added "IIRC". Was I incorrect in my recollection? I was confident at least that you had earlier stated that you have bipolar disorder.

 

[GenMarshall]

I think once you stop being taught, you start questioning, which in my view leads to atheism.

I wonder how this would apply to a religious worker who had to work the weekends (and thus prevents him/her from attending church) and slowly started to question the existance of God.

 

[holy king]

i think going to church every sunday is a prettty quick way to lose your faith.

 

[Flying Pig]

It depends how questioning you are, IMO

 

[Masada]

I don't read it, but having looked it up I don't believe the argument, since it hinges on the theory that humans 'naturally' believe in God, which is wrong. Humans believe what they are taught, and religion is one of those things that gets taught a lot

You didn't read the argument, yet you know the theory underpinning it! Also, your wrong.

Also, what Masada said. In general, more asking a theologian, less anecdotal evidence and generalisations over the loudest Christians you're personally familiar with plz.

Eh' we're a dying breed, willing to question and substantiate our opinions before spouting out 'common sense' which is neither common nor sense.

I think once you stop being taught, you start questioning, which in my view leads to atheism.

I'm probably the one of the biggest cynics here. I don't trust anything. I question everything. But that hasn't inexorably lead to atheism.

 

[Flying Pig]

I don't read the thread, but having looked it up I don't like it

 

[Masada]

I don't read the thread, but having looked it up I don't like it

Your personal likes and dislikes are as immaterial to me as CivGeneral's.

 

[GenMarshall]

Your personal likes and dislikes are as immaterial to me as CivGeneral's.

Again, why use me as an example?

 

[Yared]

Removed

 

[Flying Pig]

Your personal likes and dislikes are as immaterial to me as CivGeneral's.

I don't think the argument is logical.

 

[Masada]

Again, why use me as an example?

To be fair I did just call FlyingPig out. Nevertheless I also call out yared 94 and Winner out as well, normative statements, anecdotes, and shoddily constructed token logic are useless. It's not my fault that I base my standards on that bastion of rational thought, honest intellectual commentary and all-round goodness - Ask a Theologian.

I don't think the argument is logical.

Care to provide some proof as to why that might be the case - otherwise I'm inclined to agree with a published expert in the field.

 

[Yared]

To be fair I did just call FlyingPig out. Nevertheless I also call out yared 94 and Winner out as well, normative statements, anecdotes, and shoddily constructed token logic are useless. It's not my fault that I base my standards on that bastion of rational thought, honest intellectual commentary and all-round goodness - Ask a Theologian.

Thread title: "What do you think about Dawkins".

 

[Erik Mesoy]

And this is the point where you lost the right to criticize it.

Go read the Plotinus posts in the Ask a Theologian threads, Lewis' The Abolition of Man and Mere Christianity, and Chesterton's Orthodoxy and Heretics. (IIRC they're about as long put together as The God Delusion. TAoM is all of four chapters. AFAIK all of them are legally available online for free.) Then come back and criticize Christianity, hypocrite.

(Not even counting the fact that NK was arguing tone, which can be gleaned from less evidence.)

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Moderator Action: Everyone needs to calm down. There is no reason to make this personal. Winner, CivGeneral, that goes especially for you.

 

[GenMarshall]

I'd like to change my vote to "I don't believe in god(s). I don't care about Dawkins".

 

[Lone Wolf]

I'd like to change my vote to "I don't believe in god(s). I don't care about Dawkins".

Wow. Already?