What do you think are the greatest Civiliations in history?

What is the greatest civilization in history?

  • Arabia

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • America

    Votes: 42 21.1%
  • Celtic (Scots, Irish, Gauls, etc.)

    Votes: 9 4.5%
  • China

    Votes: 71 35.7%
  • Egypt

    Votes: 24 12.1%
  • England/Britain

    Votes: 58 29.1%
  • Ethiopia

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • France

    Votes: 21 10.6%
  • German (Germany, Viking, Netherlands, etc.)

    Votes: 34 17.1%
  • Hebrew

    Votes: 13 6.5%
  • Hellenic (Greece, Ptolemies, etc.)

    Votes: 64 32.2%
  • Iberia (Spain, Portugal, etc.)

    Votes: 10 5.0%
  • Inca

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • India

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • Japan

    Votes: 8 4.0%
  • Mesoamerica (Aztecs, Mayans, etc.)

    Votes: 11 5.5%
  • Mesopotamia (Babylon, Sumer, etc.)

    Votes: 22 11.1%
  • Mongolia

    Votes: 13 6.5%
  • Persia

    Votes: 22 11.1%
  • Rome

    Votes: 101 50.8%
  • Russia

    Votes: 18 9.0%
  • SE Asia (Khmer, Vietnam, etc.)

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Turkey

    Votes: 9 4.5%
  • West Africa (Mali, Songhai, etc.)

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 10 5.0%

  • Total voters
    199
The Roman legal system was much more influential than any other system older than 500 years. The most influential, today, is the French civil law system, but that one is in itself INCREDIBLY influenced by the Roman system. It's basically a modern version of the Roman system.

English common law was set up during Viking reign and is also used in some form in other cultures. Rome didn't have juries or individualism, though I don't know much else about the roman legal system.

The common law is very, very little used worldwide.
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Pink - Common law (English)
Orange - Civil law (French)
Dark Pink - Mixed
Green - Religious law (Arabic)



"Using the term Roman law in a broader sense, one may say that Roman law is not only the legal system of ancient Rome but the law that was applied throughout most of Europe until the end of the 18th century in its exact form. In some countries like Germany the practical application of Roman law lasted even longer. For these reasons, many modern civil law systems in Europe and elsewhere are heavily influenced by Roman law. This is especially true in the field of private law. Even the English and North American Common law owes some debt to Roman law although Roman law exercised much less influence on the English legal system than on the legal systems of the continent. The influence of Roman law is shown by the wealth of legal terminology, retained by all legal systems, like stare decisis, culpa in contrahendo or pacta sunt servanda.

No code completely broke with the Roman tradition. Rather, the provisions of Roman law were fitted into a more coherent system and expressed in the national language. For this reason, knowledge of Roman law is indispensable to understand the legal systems of today. Thus, Roman law is often still a mandatory subject for law students in civil law jurisdictions.

As steps towards a unification of the private law in the member states of the European Union are being taken, the old Ius Commune, which was the common basis of legal practice everywhere, but allowed for many local variants, is seen by many as a model."



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What on earth do you mean by "individualism"? And how does it come from the Vikings?

The "dark" ages (dominated by Vikings and other Germans) was an era of small states, which caused more freedom for the individual as the "Kings" had little actual power over their citizens. Also times were tough and it caused people to look out for themselves and not care about what their neighbor did.

As for the legal system, we have the same criminal and civil court system as the English do and they were dominated by the Germanic and Nordic peoples. The only people we are more like in our law are the Jews.
 
I personally am rather surprised with how little votes Arabia, Ethiopia, Iberian, and the Mongols got!
Arabia: Gave Europe (From China of course, we just spread it and enhanced it a bit) the compass, the astrolabe, paper, gunpowder, and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember yet, as well as spreading a religion all the way from Spain and Morocco in the west to Turkey and Turkmenistan (the basic area of Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, and all the other -stans that were conquered by the USSR)and Pakistan in the east!
Ethiopia: Survived as a Christian country in an ocean of Muslim land! Managed to survive until Mussolini conquered it, and that was only for a short while! Very rich culture.
Iberia: Unknowingly wiped out more than a million people. Conquered two great Mesoamerican empires as well as about a quarter of North America and half of South America.
Mongolians: Created the largest land empire in the history of the world. Need I say more?
 
The "dark" ages (dominated by Vikings and other Germans) was an era of small states, which caused more freedom for the individual as the "Kings" had little actual power over their citizens. Also times were tough and it caused people to look out for themselves and not care about what their neighbor did.

First, the Vikings weren't German. Second, the Vikings did not dominate the "dark" ages; they dominated only certain areas during that period. For example, there were plenty of warring and chaotic smallish states in what is now France during this period, and that had nothing to do with the Vikings. So if you're attributing the rise of "individualism" to that political situation, the Vikings can't take all or even most of the credit for it. Besides, I don't see how a king has less power in a smaller state; on the contrary, you'd think he'd have more, since he can give correspondingly more attention to each subject (as it were). And this was especially so in the "dark" ages, given that kings were generally local warlords who attained their position through being more violent than the previous incumbent. Finally, it may be true that times were tough during that period, but (a) times have been just as tough at other points in history, and (b) it's not true that at such times people cease to care about what their neighbours are doing - on the contrary, you could just as well say that they care more, because it has a greater impact.

And I don't see what any of this has to do with "individualism". You need to state precisely what you mean by that and show (a) how it didn't exist before the Vikings, and (b) where and when it came into existence. I think you'll have a very hard time showing that even the medieval English had a greater sense of "individualism" than, say, Augustine of Hippo did.
 
I personally am rather surprised with how little votes Arabia, Ethiopia, Iberian, and the Mongols got!
Arabia: Gave Europe (From China of course, we just spread it and enhanced it a bit) the compass, the astrolabe, paper, gunpowder, and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember yet, as well as spreading a religion all the way from Spain and Morocco in the west to Turkey and Turkmenistan (the basic area of Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, and all the other -stans that were conquered by the USSR)and Pakistan in the east!
Ethiopia: Survived as a Christian country in an ocean of Muslim land! Managed to survive until Mussolini conquered it, and that was only for a short while! Very rich culture.
Iberia: Unknowingly wiped out more than a million people. Conquered two great Mesoamerican empires as well as about a quarter of North America and half of South America.
Mongolians: Created the largest land empire in the history of the world. Need I say more?

What do you mean by "Iberia"? Do you mean Spain? Because Spain is not the only Iberian country. If by Iberia you mean Spain, Portugal and Kingdom of Aragon, then they conquered much more than what you mention there, where you seem to be talking only about Spain (and only about a part of Spain's conquests, for example you aren't talking about how they owned in a time half of Italy and the Netherlands). :)
 
First, the Vikings weren't German

to add...

Vikings aren't Germans. Germans aren't Vikings.

BUT...

Vikings are Germanic. Germans are Germanic. "Germanics" can be Vikings, Germans, or some other peoples im too lazy to list.
 
What do you mean by "Iberia"? Do you mean Spain? Because Spain is not the only Iberian country. If by Iberia you mean Spain, Portugal and Kingdom of Aragon, then they conquered much more than what you mention there, where you seem to be talking only about Spain (and only about a part of Spain's conquests, for example you aren't talking about how they owned in a time half of Italy and the Netherlands). :)

Well, I pretty much did indeed mean the entire Iberian peninsula, and yes, I completely forgot about their Haspburg (is that right) territories. At midnight, I'm not so good at remembering stuff like that.
 
Well, I pretty much did indeed mean the entire Iberian peninsula, and yes, I completely forgot about their Haspburg (is that right) territories. At midnight, I'm not so good at remembering stuff like that.

Hapsburg, and yea from 1400-1700 or so give or take a few years one or other of the Iberian nations was indisputably the most powerful nation in the world.
 
China: Longest lasting civilization

Rome: Democracy

Other: I forgot...
 
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