I don't know - in principle, would you?
What is the atheist's obsession with religion?
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LucyDuke
staring at the clock
In principle, if someone could make a good pro-tooth-fairy case, I'd consider it. In reality, I don't see any reason to doubt the overwhelming evidence that the tooth fairy is your mom.
Mise
isle of lucy
And quite a pun it was!No, it was a pun, referring to a literary device.
Also, I didn't get jack from this so called "tooth fairy". I question the morality of an entity that distributes happiness so unfairly and arbitrarily.
What I hate is the Jewish (and to a lesser extent Christain) belief that it is a good thing to bring down the sins of the fathers on the sons. It's not onlyevil, but it's destructive to society - punishing it's weakest members for the sins of its strongest
aelf
Ashen One
Have you ever touched Nietzsche's books?
He was a Nazi - didn't he say that altruism was motivated by hatred and that real men disregard the rules?
This sentence is not an accurate representation of the views of Friedrich Nietzsche at all, especially not the first part. Whatever Nietzsche was, he was not a Nazi.
He definitly said that the strong in the world should break the chains of morality and impose their own virtues (which sound a lot like self-intrest to me) on the world.
Which, although a paraphrasing, is more correct than what you claimed about Nietzsche earlier. Do you know why he had the Madman say, "God is dead"?
He was an atheist, which is why he didn't like traditional morals.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Because it is still knocking at our door and running rampant in the government.
I have a few christian friends, I don't mind them being religious, I'm used to them being christian and they are pretty respectful of others. But there are things I'd like to see progress, (such as Evolution) that religious people try to ban. While that stuff doesn't hasn't directly affected me, it's sad to see it and there's a fear it could.
I have a few christian friends, I don't mind them being religious, I'm used to them being christian and they are pretty respectful of others. But there are things I'd like to see progress, (such as Evolution) that religious people try to ban. While that stuff doesn't hasn't directly affected me, it's sad to see it and there's a fear it could.
aelf
Ashen One
Do you know that he hates nationalism and broke with Wagner partly because of that?
So how does your Christianity-favours-the-strong thesis sound like now?
Anyway, he said beyond good and evil, not beyond good and onto evil. Your phrasing his view in such a way is to still talk in terms of the traditional good-evil dichotomy (in the form of morality v.s. self-interest), which although might be the real implications in reality, is not quite what he said.
There are few plans that Nietzsche came up with himself (the most significant being the eternal recurrence and the closely linked idea of ubermensch). He was more of a critic of traditional systems than a founder of new ones.
Lord Emsworth
Emperor
Let us say that I have absolutely no clue how life started. Now, how did life start? Well? Use your three letter word and be specific.
Actually, save your breath as ...
... you won't explain anything and you cannot explain anything.
See? There is no "God." There is no meaningful proposition. What exactly shall I be uncertain about?
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
That's probably the worst proof I've ever seen/heard.
It was a disproof of a proof, I think.
Lord Emsworth
Emperor
But that is because there is nothing to be disproved, or do you think there is?
A 'proper' atheist only disbelieves in God for the same reason that Christians disbelieve that the moon is made of cheese; should evidence to the contrary arise; a 'proper' atheist should change their opinion - anything else is religion.
That's an especially good analogy, because we were told (jokingly) as children that the moon was made of cheese, but have since realised that those tales were false. By the same vein, many of the claims of those who told us about God have been proven false as well. So, it's not outrageous that we dismiss modified claims as well ("No, the inside is made of cheese!"). Obviously, proper evidence would totally change our minds.
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