What Makes Your Blood Boil?

if you got trouble walking you need to work out, might improve your other condition(s) too...just do it!

okay, people using an escalator who stand in the way when they get off

and whomever is spitting out their sunflower seed shells on the putting greens irks me
 
And if you have one person saying the Holocaust happened and 299 saying it didn't?
Then you still fall back to the evidence that is available. Like I said, you get a "more accurate picture", or maybe "you have a higher chance of getting an accurate picture" would fit better. You shouldn't believe a billion people if the evidence available points in a different direction.

Although, thinking about it... at that point you probably shouldn't rely on the evidence either I guess, more likely that there's something wrong with it than 1 Billion people being wrong, but you still don't believe the people, you take an agnostic stance until you can figure out what's going on.

Ask a group of people in my generation about the fashions and music and other popular culture of the 1970s. Some will say, "OMG, what the hell were we thinking? It was AWFUL!!!".

Others will say the '70s were a great decade, the fashions were fun, and in general they will say positive things.

Good luck finding that "average person."
I'm sure I don't actually have to explain this, but I'm not sure how else to respond to this part, so... the "average person" does not actually exist, it's a metaphor for what people in a particular group generally think, a theoretical person built out of majority opinions.

If your goal is to just get some impressions from people who don't make up that majority opinion, or in other words, if you don't want "the essence" of that time, then yeah, asking that random elderly person you know is perfectly reasonable, but the chance that that person actually tells you what that time was like for most people is slim. And again, if that's not even what you're looking for, fine. I personally don't find it all that useful.

As for me? I liked '70s fashion for the most part, I'm one of the many people who experienced standing in blocks-long lineups to see Star Wars in the theatre, and tolerated '70s music (I was raised on music from earlier decades). Mind you, it was a stressful decade in some ways, too.

Oh, and there was no internet. We had to read real newspapers, and if we wanted to look something up, we went to the library (or, as my grandfather did, bought a set of Encyclopedia Britannica). The closest thing anybody could imagine to Wikipedia was the library computer on Star Trek.
Well... great.

WHOOSH! and the point of my post just flew over your head, there it goes!

It's not what advice was given. It's who gave it. Yes, it's sensible advice... but not what you'd expect from somebody born in the early 1920s. It's more like I'd expect from my mother, since she only married her second husband after several years of living with him (24 years later he finally admitted he was cheating on her with a woman 20 years younger than she was, and said he wanted a divorce). But my mother kept nagging me about when was I getting married. Even a casual date to see a movie with someone got blown all out of proportion ("Is it SERIOUS?!").
Okay, then we have established that people of all ages are individuals I guess?

The point of the thread isn't to upset other posters. It's to talk about things that consistently make us very angry.
Jeez...

Also, Ryika, if you want to make a silly trollish jab, generally, you indicate that by something like an emotocon when somebody pushes back on it instead of "well, isn't it true?" I'm finding your "why are we even talking about this?" Mea culpa a bit insincere when you feel obliged to lay out argumentation in support of your broad claim of people being useless "because internet." Yikes.
I don't know, I think that sort of humor only works if you don't make it too obvious and people have to think for a moment whether it's meant to be serious or not. But like I said, this probably wasn't the right audience for such a joke.
 
But like I said, this probably wasn't the right audience for such a joke.

I miss the "I find this person attractive" thread. It really tied the room together. Sorta.
 
you need a walker or cane but exercise wont help?
It's a lifelong condition that's behind this. I'm not going into all the details, but honestly, it's not something that going to the gym is going to fix.

Some exercises do help. And I don't use any mobility aid unless I really need to, either because of balance problems or chronic fatigue (it's scary as hell when you literally run out of energy in a place where there isn't even anything to lean on, never mind a place to sit and rest; I used to be terrified of this happening if I was crossing the street at the time). I was offered a scooter at the same time as the walker, and opted for the walker. My situation isn't at the point of needing a scooter.
 
@ Vincour

Walk it off is what a coach tells a player with a less than chronic injury, exercise is what physical therapists tell people with weak leg/core muscles

I took care of someone who suffered a stroke, they decided life from a wheelchair was good enough... But they had people to take care of them.
 
It's a lifelong condition that's behind this. I'm not going into all the details, but honestly, it's not something that going to the gym is going to fix.

Some exercises do help. And I don't use any mobility aid unless I really need to, either because of balance problems or chronic fatigue (it's scary as hell when you literally run out of energy in a place where there isn't even anything to lean on, never mind a place to sit and rest; I used to be terrified of this happening if I was crossing the street at the time). I was offered a scooter at the same time as the walker, and opted for the walker. My situation isn't at the point of needing a scooter.

I understand, I have chronic pain and I dont like working out... But I feel better afterward and the more I lift the stronger I get, better balance and less fatigue. I need more exercise, more weight lifting, more stretching... Another set, I'll do it now. :)
 
@ Vincour

Walk it off is what a coach tells a player with a less than chronic injury, exercise is what physical therapists tell people with weak leg/core muscles

The issue I see here is that you're approaching the matter from the perspective that exercise will equal health improvement, period.

In many chronic health cases, exercise keeps you in 'optimal' condition... the problem being that your condition degrades regardless of what you do at a more rapid pace than that of your fully able-bodied brethren. Their best isn't good enough to prevent getting worse.
 
Well, I did get exercise today, since my cat decided to throw up in five different areas of the apartment. And yesterday I had 3 hours of walking around a mall.

I'd walk around the neighborhood if the management here would fix the potholes in the parking lot. It's not safe for wheelchair/walker users.
 
The issue I see here is that you're approaching the matter from the perspective that exercise will equal health improvement, period.

In many chronic health cases, exercise keeps you in 'optimal' condition... the problem being that your condition degrades regardless of what you do at a more rapid pace than that of your fully able-bodied brethren. Their best isn't good enough to prevent getting worse.

Exercise does equal health improvement...period. And it becomes even more important for people with conditions that get worse with time. Our muscles need that blood (and nutrients) being pumped vigorously around the body and pumping iron literally does it for us. We dont have too many options within our control, exercise and nutrition are 2 we can control.

I played golf yesterday with a guy who was very good in his day, and still is good. He's almost 300 lbs now after being laid up with a knee problem, recently diagnosed as diabetic, heart problems, etc, and on pills. Will he cut down on the food? Probably not... Golf is about his only exercise. He's one tweak of a knee from sitting in a wheelchair for good instead of a golf cart.

Well, I did get exercise today, since my cat decided to throw up in five different areas of the apartment. And yesterday I had 3 hours of walking around a mall.

I'd walk around the neighborhood if the management here would fix the potholes in the parking lot. It's not safe for wheelchair/walker users.

I have a cat that throws up a bunch, I thought he had food allergies and he does, but I also found out some cats are too horizontal from stomach to mouth and if they eat too much or too fast the food just shoots out of them. Keep at it, take along some light hand weights (and leg weights?) and pump those arms. You know this stuff, motivation is the problem. Easy for me to say laying in bed typing away... But I did get that set in, another one is on the way.

The more you exercise the easier it gets, I just started a new regimen and I'm amazed how quickly the body responds. I need more stretching though, thats a bit tougher because of my acid reflux. But I gotta do it, I need to drop another 20 lbs to help with the GERD and its tough going because I am closer to my proper weight, but cutting down on pizza and dairy is helping.
 
Health is an asset to be gained by sheer hard work. It is not a commodity which can be purchased with money. - BKS Iyengar
 
Exercise does equal health improvement...period. And it becomes even more important for people with conditions that get worse with time.

Slowing down degradation is not improvement. If you have a condition that is going to get worse regardless of what you do, there is no amount of "pumping iron" that will change that fact.
 
Slowing down degradation is not improvement. If you have a condition that is going to get worse regardless of what you do, there is no amount of "pumping iron" that will change that fact.

Slowing down degradation may not be improvement, but the results are.

Spoiler :
Consider that if you had done something every day for the last 300 days that had slowed degradation on that day that your health today would be an improvement over what it actually is. So, the result of having slowed down degradation is indeed improvement.
 
Slowing down degradation may not be improvement, but the results are.

Spoiler :
Consider that if you had done something every day for the last 300 days that had slowed degradation on that day that your health today would be an improvement over what it actually is. So, the result of having slowed down degradation is indeed improvement.

From a certain point of view. From a lived health experience, improvement generally implies being better, not being worse slower. There's little payoff for an excruciating process if the most you can hope for is becoming incapable in 7 years instead of 5. Statistically it may be a significant payoff but when you're forced to live that life the statistics tend to be irrelevant.
 
Sure it is, degrading slower is an improvement over degrading quicker. But people in need of walkers and canes generally dont have conditions that are immune to improvement from exercise, they need it even more.

Health is an asset to be gained by sheer hard work. It is not a commodity which can be purchased with money. - BKS Iyengar

I wish I was more serious about my health growing up, too many steaks and not enough leafy greens
 
My point is that the Holocaust happened, and the hypothetical 299 people who say it didn't are wrong.
So basically your point was that you completely missed the point that you were answering to ?
 
I miss the "I find this person attractive" thread. It really tied the room together. Sorta.
It was a great thread. Frankly, the best.

Slowing down degradation is not improvement. If you have a condition that is going to get worse regardless of what you do, there is no amount of "pumping iron" that will change that fact.
That's aging in a nutshell though. You're basically saying that any uncomfortable or painful thing we put our selves through to stay able and alive for longer is ultimately meaningless, because our body will degrade regardless, and we'll die eventually, just at a later date.

There is a certain point where the value does not overcome the pain and the exhaustion gained anymore, and certain conditions push that point to a lower threshold, but for it to become negative value, you have to have something really severe.
 
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From a certain point of view. From a lived health experience, improvement generally implies being better, not being worse slower. There's little payoff for an excruciating process if the most you can hope for is becoming incapable in 7 years instead of 5. Statistically it may be a significant payoff but when you're forced to live that life the statistics tend to be irrelevant.
When you are forced to live through that sixth year the payoff won't just be statistically significant.
 
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