What's so good about Civ2?

I agree. Newcomers are always gunna be attracted to the eye candy of civ iv. I grew up playing games on the spectrum and commodore 64 computers. Zero eye candy, but the gameplay was great. Im only 27 now, but its very rare that i can find a game that will keep me playing until the early hours. For what its worth, i discovered civ on the playstation (civ ii). I never had a problem with the interface (ive read others had). I must of played it for 100s of hours. Never got into civ iii or civ iv. Dont know why. The only other game that i ever played as much as this was Master of Orion II. Great game. Cost me my socal life for a few years.
 
The combat system. It never made any mistakes. (Except for the phalanx behind walls beating a rifleman formerly mentioned in this thread. Hmm.) Unlike the combat system in Civ IV, in which a unit that has a 95% odds of being beaten by you is to be feared, everything was uniform in terms of combat.
 
Slinky360 has it right. Most people today think that if its not the "latest and greatest" its no good. Most of the new games today are riding on graphics and do not really have the replayability of the old classics like Civ2. If Civ2 was advertised and available for sale today, it would still be a good seller. Unfortunately, most kids today have not even heard of civ2 unless they see it referenced in Civ3 or Civ4 (both of which I think are terrible games).

Those old Commodore 64 games were great!
 
Nylan said:
Too late to have formulated an appreciation for Civ2 without comparing it to the later games.
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Is what I was thinking. There are some games of which I've never played (or gotten the hang of) earlier versions, simply because I'm so used to the one I first bought. Civ2 and Caesar 3 come to mind, I've never played Civ1, and didn't like Caesar 2 that much.

With going back to Civ2 from 3, I think you have a bigger problem. As I said before, Civ3 did make the standard game far more streamlined and accessible, probably making Civ2 seem very confusing in comparison. I had a friend who only played Civ3, and he found Civ2 exceptionally difficult to get into, eventually giving up.
 
Anyone here played freeciv, its like civ 2.5 or civ 2 plus a few features like play with 30 civs and national borders. Although its downside is the events leave alot to be desired and its really difficult (when compared to civ 2) to make scenarios and mods. On the plus side though its open-source (ie you have access to the programming language inside the application unlike civ 2), its free and its small (I think only about 10 MB)

Anyway civ 2's great because its so easy to mod and make scenarios. Civ 3 I hated and Civ 4 well I played for about a year but I just cant use python at all and I enjoy modding so I went back to civ 2. (Although I have gone on to freeciv at the moment)
 
I'm playing Civ2 right now! The world war 1 scenario from MGE is amazing!
 
Kan' Sharuminar said:
With going back to Civ2 from 3, I think you have a bigger problem. As I said before, Civ3 did make the standard game far more streamlined and accessible, probably making Civ2 seem very confusing in comparison. I had a friend who only played Civ3, and he found Civ2 exceptionally difficult to get into, eventually giving up.
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That seems to be the way these things go, although I find 3 more difficult than 2. I liked Caesar 3, as a side note :)
 
@dagriggstar:

freeciv is a great version of Civ2. But i can't handle the units and tiles they use in freeciv. I tried to replace freecivs tiles with the ones from micropose's civ2 but the game crashed. Gonna wait 'till someone else with stronger technical background will do it for me...
 
Civ 2 has an enormous amount of charm and simplicity. The graphics don't bother me, coming from the old CGA days of the late 80s and before, the events are very useful, the scenario editor and unit editor are very user friendly, the music was fine, the wonder videos magnificent and many great scenarios were made for it - particularly some of the fine fantasy ones, such as Prince of Darkness, Underdark, Dungeons and Shannara. The Andrew P. Livings scenarios were also very well done. There was even a Forgotten Realms scen - Banewars.

I only got into Civ3 in very late 05, so for many years, Civ2 had been my preference. I don't go for all the bells and whistles, and found Civ4 not to my interest.

Old and good.

Civ1 holds a similar fond position for me.
 
I have tremendous nostalgia for the many, many hours wasted playing Civ1 when I should have been enjoying the sunshine or finishing my PhD (although I did finish it, and on time, too!).

I also got totally addicted to Civ2, and I wish I was still able to run Mac OS9 so I could slip my CD into the drawer and play away. Compared to Civ4, Civ2 is quick and easy as others have pointed out.

But I like Civ4's eye candy, not because I'm an impressionable teenager (today's my thirty-ninth birthday) but because it makes the game more alive for me. And the greater sophistication of the new version makes me think a lot about my choices and strategies. So, while I'm occasionally in the mood for something quick and simple, I generally prefer the newest version.

(I never played Civ3, for those wondering why I haven't mentioned it.)
 
dagriggstar said:
Anyone here played freeciv, its like civ 2.5 or civ 2 plus a few features like play with 30 civs and national borders. Although its downside is the events leave alot to be desired and its really difficult (when compared to civ 2) to make scenarios and mods. On the plus side though its open-source (ie you have access to the programming language inside the application unlike civ 2), its free and its small (I think only about 10 MB)

Anyway civ 2's great because its so easy to mod and make scenarios. Civ 3 I hated and Civ 4 well I played for about a year but I just cant use python at all and I enjoy modding so I went back to civ 2. (Although I have gone on to freeciv at the moment)
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I've played Freeciv a few times. It's ok, but very hard, and it's a little ugly. Its huge difficulty improved my Civ game.
 
well i have to agree with most of you guys here, i am only 16 years old, but When it comes down to civilization 2 games i have only become interested in civilization 2 . I have not only played this game for years, but i have almost no interest in playing the sequels, i just love the simple,fast paced style civ 2 has. And about grafics i think they are quite good for a 2D game, and this coming from a 16 year old teenager from Brazil where most people only play 3d visual games or counter-strike...
 
Civ 4's graphics is enough reason to like that over 2. But it also doesn't have any of those gay rules for civ 2 like zone of control, or engineer units
 
I really missed ZoC when I played civ 3 and 4. Civ without ZoC, (plus those giant animated units) feels like some kind of slow rts :sad:
 
Siaphi94 said:
Civ 4's graphics is enough reason to like that over 2. But it also doesn't have any of those rules for civ 2 like zone of control, or engineer units
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Zones of control make it much more feasible to protect your borders from invasion. The combat rules of civ2 prevented war from being a contest to see who can build a better stack.

I can't see how you'd hate engineers considering that they move and work twice as fast.
 
I miss ZoC as well, at least for forts. Having it back for them would give them some sort of purpose, not to mention being able to create a better defence strategy.

Will give credit to Civ3+4 for removing the ability to destroy an entire stack just by killing one of its units. That was nasty.
 
I bought and played Civ2 when it first came out, hence, I've been playing it longer than other games and so it's generally my favorite. On of the other things I really liked about civ2 was that it was so easy to create mods and make scenarios... You could change the entire look of the map if you just worked on it for a few hours.

You live in Aberdeen Kan? That's where I used to live :-D
 
The major selling point for me is it windowed playscreen. You can easily start a game and in the same time work on more pressing matters (like my archeological fieldreport which I actually should be doing right now...).
And for the graphics; I think they are the best of all the series. They are crisp and obvious. Just learn to deal with some of the drawbacks (AI, phalanx v. tank, trade system) and it really shines
 
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