What's your religion?

[Hymnaren]

There is a lot of debate about "the new big thing" in Civ, but there is no good way to see how many of all religious groups that's represented in the forum. So that's why I publish this poll.

 

[ComradeDavo]

Hmm..dude this is more of an off topic kinda thread. Anyways, I'm an athiest, but I like religion being in Civ4, it has introduced a whole new game play aspect and I feel has really added to the game!

 

[Hymnaren]

Hmm..dude this is more of an off topic kinda thread.

Oh, it is... I'm kinda new here... I thought it went under General discussions...

 

[drkodos]

I am offended by religion and I think the game did a poor job of using it because they were scared of offending people and having that effect games sales. The one thing the game does well though, is that religion divides people and cultures and set them in opposition just like in the real world.

That part they nailed to the cross.

 

[Hymnaren]

I am offended by religion and I think the game did a poor job of using it because they were scared of offending people and having that effect games sales. The one thing the game does well though, is that religion divides people and cultures and set them in opposition just like in the real world.

That part they nailed to the cross.

First, religion does not only split - it make cultures join together. And don't forget that in the end of a game (that last to year 2050) almost everytime every Civ have free religion and several religions in their boarders.

And isn't Atheism a religion? It isn't proven that everything is ruled by chance instead of by God OR karma? In a tolerant society all kinds of faiths coexists because noone knows what's right, even if we can discuss what we all think (accept the Agnostics...).

The real non-religious people should be the Agnostics, and they can't be offended, because they aren't sure of what to think.

 

[The 777 Hoax]

Protestant Christian.

 

[Hymnaren]

Protestant Christian.

Well, if we're going for detailes: Theravada Buddhist. (It'd been to much to have the traits too, in the poll.)

 

[drkodos]

First, religion does not only split - it make cultures join together. And don't forget that in the end of a game (that last to year 2050) almost everytime every Civ have free religion and several religions in their boarders.

And isn't Atheism a religion? It isn't proven that everything is ruled by chance instead of by God OR karma? In a tolerant society all kinds of faiths coexists because noone knows what's right, even if we can discuss what we all think (accept the Agnostics...).

The real non-religious people should be the Agnostics, and they can't be offended, because they aren't sure of what to think.

Atheism is not a religion. We do not have a dogma, meetings or the need to fund our economically challenged ungod.


The most powerful being in the Universe, and he has money issues. Pass the plate, please.

 

[SkippyT]

Well. I don't know actually. I've been a Christian my whole life until I was introduced to Buddhism in school. Buddhism surely has many right things but I am going to have to say Protestant Christian... like cody_the_genius

 

[GoodSarmatian]

"Officially" Christian (serbian orthodox) but in fact agnostic.

 

[drkodos]

Civ 4 no doubt epitomizes and espouses many religious tennants and actual practices:

~ Attack and kill other civilizations to get their resources.
~ Take over other cultures that get in our way of expanding our own culture and civilization.
~ Use whatever advantage neccessary to win.
~ Ruthlessness is rewarded more often than it is punished.
~ Use of religion to keep an eye on others (shrines=money=line of sight)
~ Use religion in cities to get people happy and prevent them from being lazy slackers.
~ Instant hostile attitude toward others that do not share same set of beliefs.




No wonder so many religious peoples love this game. It feeds into and taps directly into the foundation and underpinnings of most religious cultures. The developers did an excellent job of taking the critical & primary characteristics of all religions and embedded them into the game in way that fully demonstrates religion's real intents and purposes in the world.

It is a tool to use to gain a position of superiority. Period.

I think Soren is a genius for the thin veil he put over religion in the game. Kudos from Kodos on that coup of making it seem like a middle road was taken.

Hardly.

Seems obvious that the developers do not really have a very favorable perspective on religion since the civics that disavow it are the important ones to have in most latter game strategies.



Of course, I mean all this in context of the game, that is. Of course, I mean in the game. Never in real life.

Nope. Doesn't ever happen in real life and there are no historical events that would support such an outlandish hypothesis that religion is used as tool by institutions to effect control over individuals.

Any similarities are merely phantoms, ghosts or apparitions.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

First, religion does not only split - it make cultures join together.

True for polytheism in Europe.
"Zeus ? Nah, Zeus is Jupiter".
But monotheism has caused more trouble han it's worth.

 

[Willowmound]

That part they nailed to the cross.

Ooh, nice one.

 

[Sohan]

Christian. Religion is very important in human history. It's caused a lot of division and unity as well, and it is a key component of culture. I'm glad Civ added it in and I think they implemented it well. By the way, isn't religion a system of beliefs? Atheism is a system of beliefs. It isn't an ORGANIZED religion. Big difference.

 

[Goblin Fanatic]

Actually, it's not all that religion is only a cynical propaganda tool in this game. I mean, i was an unbeliever until i saw it with my very own eyes.

My massed grenadiers were on the outskirts of Delhi, receiving last blessings before battle from the taoist war-priest and praying that their weapons would explode *after* they are thrown and all that, then the player playing India contacted me and asked for peace.
Inside the city, there was just an axeman, an archer and a spearman. Asking the whole Hindu pantheon for help.(imagine that, India founds Hinduism) I laughed and told the player that no, i'm not going to let him keep the pyramids. Then the sky cracked.

Rapture. He was gone.

Has to be a miracle.

 

[drkodos]

Atheism is a system of beliefs.

Wrong.

There is no sytem. There is no central authority. There are no tennants or rules. There are no punishments doled out for those poor souls that lose their way. No one is made to feel bad or guilty. There are no meetings or doctrines to follow, no acceptance of things on faith. There is no leader.

There is no system.

There is only the fact that there is no god. It is not a belief, but a known state of the universe. Some people know. Most do not.

I know. It has been proven to me beyond any shadow of doubt.


I understand that many people cannot come to this realization for various and sundry reasons.

My condolences to those peoples.

 

[Red Door]

A Catholic Christian here. Can't you see by my User Title?

 

[sgrig]

Culturally, I'm Christian (Russian Orthodox), but my beliefs are closer to being agnostic. Although recently, I've been leaning more and more towards atheism.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

I would be an athiest.

 

[Willowmound]

By the way, isn't religion a system of beliefs? Atheism is a system of beliefs. It isn't an ORGANIZED religion. Big difference.

Not believing in a god or gods is not a system. It's a dismissal of a notion.

Big difference.