The Navy Seal
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I think I would almost perfer anything else.
Which Civ would you prefere instead of HRE?
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Lance of Llanwy- I can say the same for any of the civs because they all have LESS support than HRE. The next highest choice is Poland, and I see 158 votes for anything but Poland. So your logic that was suppose to prove me wrong fails. The point is HRE still has the MOST support, almost twice as much as the next highest, despite being on the bottom of the list which makes it harder to notice and the fact that some pro-HRe might have ignored the thread because they thought HRE wouldn't be an option. As long as HRE has the most votes it IS the most popular, at least among members of civfanatics.
Vasili Zaitsev
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This is some terrible logic. The fact is if firaxis stumbled upon this thread they would be happy with their choice of the HRE. What i think NYHunter is saying is that people should eliminate the other possibilities: like Italy Switzerland and others and agree on one country that would be a better choice than HRE.
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methane
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Well, I'm sure there's a lot of people who'd rather have Poland or Vietnam than the Netherlands. I'm also sure there's a lot of people who'd rather have Israel or Polynesia than Portugal. But we don't see a lot of people putting up threads or polls complaining about those 2 civs. My impression isn't that people think Portugal and the Netherlands are the perfect choices, but they feel those are decent choices, even if they might have prefered a different civ.
The general tone of posts is that not only do people think HRE isn't the best choice, they think it's an inferior choice. They might have Poland as their favorite, but they might also feel Burma, Swahili, Brazil or Polynesia would make a better choice. Someone whose favorite is Brazil might feel similarly. With such a low percentage supporting the HRE in this poll, I don't see how you can take it as vindicating the choice of Firaxis..
TheLastOne36
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People aren't voting HRE because they wanted it. There voting on it because there ok with it. They would prefer something else but there fine with HRE. Barely anyone wanted HRE because they love having them in the game.
And i think it became pretty clear that Fireaxis wanted to include the leader not the civ.
And i think it became pretty clear that Fireaxis wanted to include the leader not the civ.
cybrxkhan
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in an attempt to satisfy everyone... but in the end satisfying no one.
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Don't put words in the mouths of the people who voted for the HRE. Just because you would like to see it that way and decided to interpret the results as such doesn't make it true, champ.
There are enough people who really like the HRE and think it should be in the game. I'm getting sick of people who keep complaining about its inclusion.
Stay with Holy Roman Empire, i like it from games like Medieval 2: Total War and Europa Universalis III. Holy Roman Empire is a great empire for Medieval times.
In vanilla i normally play randon maps, so this idea of "overcrowed" Europe means nothing to me, i want options and exotics civs ( and for me HRE is not the same as Germany or France ). I am only missing Austria in this expansion
too bad ( take Sumeria out and put Austria XD ).
from games like Medieval 2: Total War and Europa Universalis III. Holy Roman Empire is a great empire for Medieval times.In vanilla i normally play randon maps, so this idea of "overcrowed" Europe means nothing to me, i want options and exotics civs ( and for me HRE is not the same as Germany or France ). I am only missing Austria in this expansion
too bad ( take Sumeria out and put Austria XD ).Okay, I just want to make my self clear because I think there was a misunderstanding my point is that if HRE has 25.40% at the time of the post with the next highest struggling to get 13%, than Firaxis does not need to worry about the vocal anti-HRE, because Firaxis understands that they have already included all the major civs like China, India, France... no matter who they add in next there will be a large vocal group opposing them.
Exactly my point. Everyone wants to complain about HRE. But there are also lots of people who say they think Israel or Poland is the dumbest (or perhaps I can use the word "inferior" as it was used above) choice possible, that it is silly to think that just because so many people hate HRE that they will all gladly accept anything else. Some will say that but that doesn't apply to everybody.
I like the HRE!
It was on my wishlist for Warlords
I never believed they will include it but I'm very happy now, sorry. But it's not my fault, so don't blame me
TheLastOne36
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I like the HER!
It was on my wishlist for Warlords
I never believed they will include it but I'm very happy now, sorry. But it's not my fault, so don't blame me
Lol at first i though you said I Like her.
Anyway i believe i should've said some people instead. Because there are people who are happy with HRE. But seriously if people wanted something new, HRE wasn't what they were planning for.
Oh and You can't complain about HRE having a 1000 year history. Many nations did. Poland did as well so what makes HRE so much better then Poland?
hehe - lol, sorry for the typo!
Gaius Octavius
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Hmm. Israel is now the number one alternative Civ...
I hope Firaxis pays attention when the time comes for the next round (either expansion 3 or Civ 5).
I hope Firaxis pays attention when the time comes for the next round (either expansion 3 or Civ 5).
TheLastOne36
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Yes me to. I Hope the Petition Ldeska made will actually make fireaxis consider Poland.
HRE is new in the history of the civilization games, and it is very diferent from the others civs, it is a "confederacy" of kingdoms and it has a lot of diferent culture. This is new
. Charlemagne for itself is a good reason... and well, all your options a lot of people would hate too, if they were chosen.( if Firaxis add Isreal a lot of people will say "WTH A SINGLE CITY CIV!? Õ_o? CIV XYZ IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ISRAEL!!!111!" )
cybrxkhan
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because Poland isn't in civ. yet.
I think people need to stop "reinterpreting" the results. The question is, "What Civ would you prefer?" and when someone answers, all you know for certain is that they either prefer that one Civilization over HRE, or they prefer the HRE over all the other listed Civilizations. The results don't tell you much about how people generally feel about the HRE, because someone who likes a Civilization more than HRE might still like the HRE; and someone who voted for the HRE might prefer another Civ more than HRE, but votes HRE because his favorite Civ isn't in the list.
If you want to determine how people feel about the HRE, then you have to ask the right question. Try, for example, "Do you think the HRE is a good choice for a Civilization?" "Yes." "No." That would tell you if people think it is a good choice--nothing more, nothing less.
If you want to determine how people feel about the HRE, then you have to ask the right question. Try, for example, "Do you think the HRE is a good choice for a Civilization?" "Yes." "No." That would tell you if people think it is a good choice--nothing more, nothing less.
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