which had a greater impact on the world around it

[Hitro]

Out of those given the reformation, because all the others are single events that may have speeded up a development in some cases, but non of those developments would have been completely prevented otherwise (America would have been discovered eventually not too late after Columbus, Japan would have lost the war without the bombs and the bombs would have been developed eventually, same with the Sputnik, etc.).

The fall of Rome in itself was inevitable, the reformation as we know it wasn't.

 

[Japanrocks12]

The fall of Rome definately. If it hadn't fallen, then we could consider ourselves Romans. We'd bathe in the public bath, watch discus-throwing in the Colliseum, and spend money on authentic togas. The U.S, and entire world as a matter of fact, would be Roman

 

[HighlandWarrior]

Rome.

it happened first.

just because it was inevitable doesnt mean it didnt have the greatest impact.

Don't forget japanrocks.... we'd all be catholic.

 

[lceman]

The peaceful resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Can anyone beat that?

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Inevitability means nothing can or will possibly change. All of these aforementioned events or the results thereof, were inevitable. Rome was going to fall, Khan was going to die, America was going to be and was already found, WWI was going to happen, nuclear weapons already existed and the cold war was already on, and space exploration was already a certainty before sputnick.

Reformation, now reformation was not inevitable IMO, however I don't believe the world would be much different without it having happened.

 

[Stefan Haertel]

Reformation, now reformation was not inevitable IMO, however I don't believe the world would be much different
without it having happened.

Most definately it would have. One of the many examples is the Thirty Years War. It was a very bloody war and threw back the development of Central Europe incredibly.

 

[aaminion00]

killing of the austrian guy


I hate Gavrilo Princip


It started up WWI, set the scene for WWII, which later went on to lead to the Cold War, which is largely responsible for today's terrorist problems....

 

[Yago]

Don't forget japanrocks.... we'd all be catholic.

No, if Rome wouldn't have fallen, we'd be member of the true church, the orthodox church. Catholicism developed because and after rome fell.

 

[Punkymonkey]

Originally posted by lceman
The peaceful resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Can anyone beat that?

Good point but i don't think there would have been a nuclear crisis at all. Either Khruscev or Kennedy would have backed down no matter what the discovery channel says

 

[HighlandWarrior]

Originally posted by Yago


No, if Rome wouldn't have fallen, we'd be member of the true church, the orthodox church. Catholicism developed because and after rome fell.

Either way, if rome was still here the world would be very much different.

 

[lceman]

Originally posted by Stefan Haertel


Most definately it would have. One of the many examples is the Thirty Years War. It was a very bloody war and threw back the development of Central Europe incredibly.

It slowed the development of Central Europe, sure, but it was going to develop. The resulting world we have today would probably be the same if it had not happened.

Originally posted by Punkymonkey


Good point but i don't think there would have been a nuclear crisis at all. Either Khruscev or Kennedy would have backed down no matter what the discovery channel says

Khruschev and Kennedy didnt have to wake up at all, there were four Soviet Submarines equiped with nuclear torpedos with permission to fire at their own discretion (w/o approval from Moscow). They fire, we all die.

 

[Japanrocks12]

yes we would be true christians(orthodox) and get obsessed with gladiator events.

Its not as bad as you think, Romans were pretty cool.

 

[Xen]

If Rome had lived one might hope that they were polytheists as well

 

[Punkymonkey]

Originally posted by lceman


Khruschev and Kennedy didnt have to wake up at all, there were four Soviet Submarines equiped with nuclear torpedos with permission to fire at their own discretion (w/o approval from Moscow). They fire, we all die.

People maybe stupid but they're not ********. They wouldn't have risked destroying the world. No one did and no one would...with the exception of modern terrorists. They're kinda nutty

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Columbus. Somebody has said it is not very important because anybody else would have done it some years later. But, can you imagine how different would the world be today if it were been the Ottomans, or English or Chinesse?

 

[123joanna321]

Spet 11. awoked the sleeping hyperpower to the worlds probaims,

Fall of Rome, New World and nukes, as listed.

EDITED: Spelling errors...

 

[barron of ideas]

The automobile caused the most changes for most of the western world, and will, eventually for much of the rest.

Changed commuting and living patterns, courtship, and led to a number of inventions and improvements like highways and fast food, and breakdown of the extended (and maybe the nuclear) family and many lower cost and different ways of doing things. Autos include trucks. Lettice year round, strawberries more than three weeks a year, all kinds of diet changes, and you are what you eat.

But before tha auto, and leading to it was the bicycle. In addition the auto, it gave us flight (the Wright Brothers were (wait for it) bicycle mechanics. It was the first personal mechanical transportation. And was the forerunner of changes in comuting and living patterns (suburbs became possible), and opened a demand for paved roads. The auto (and motorcycle) were motorized (steam and diesel, I believe the internal combusion engine came later) bicycle, with more wheels.

And the armored fighting vehicle and modern mobile warfare.