Which is the worst movie ever?

[puglover]

Short Circuit. Awful.

 

[fret]

Note: "Plan 9 from outer space" does not feature on this poll because it is a masterpiece

Well its getting my vote.

Plan 9 From Outer Space.

Or doesnt that count, because Ed Wood is in fashion these days?

 

[nonconformist]

Short circuit was cool! "Johnny five, alive!"

 

[betazed]

Saving Private Ryan is an awful movie. I can't believe how 50 years after US brilliant victory over the Nazis, people are now able to make propaganda movies about it that would have impressed Goebbels.

Why do you say propaganda? I did not see any. I just saw a pretty forceful depiction of war scenes, that's all. It was just a big nice shoot em up. I did not see any hidden meaning etc. come thru to me.

 

[nonconformist]

I think it was quite fair. After all, you see plenty of Americans shooting Axis troops (as some of them were Czechoslovakian) in cold blood after they surrendered on the Omaha Vierville draw.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

The Lord of the Rings animated version!

 

[Halcyon]

If you want really bad films, plumb the depths of 'budget' F-movies. Nukieee!

History-distorting Hollywood 'epics' annoy me, but they're not always completely terrible. I've seen very few of the films in the poll, so I can't really vote fairly. However, there are no concievable circumstances where a Power Rangers movie wouldn't be terrible.

 

[thestonesfan]

Saving Private Ryan is an awful movie. I can't believe how 50 years after US brilliant victory over the Nazis, people are now able to make propaganda movies about it that would have impressed Goebbels.

I didn't know you lived through World War 2, Marla. You must have, to be able to dismiss the film as so much propoganda.

Why do europeans have such a problem with this film? Because it doesn't show the Germans as the lovable chums that the allies really fought?

 

[joycem10]

Short Circuit. Awful.

Short Circut 2, two times as awful with no Ally Sheedy

 

[The Last Conformist]

I voted Waterworld - it's the worst movie of the ones in the poll I've seen. I fully intend to never see another film associated with Mr Costner (who's name I probably spelt wrong).

The worst movie I've seen is, however, City of the Living Dead (might have been "Night of ..."). I normally hate when they cut out the bloody bits of films - and the Swedish censors were exceptionally harsh on this one - but in this case, anything that makes it shorter is good.

@thestonefan: Europeans tend to react poorly to American patriotism.

 

[Marla_Singer]

Why do europeans have such a problem with this film? Because it doesn't show the Germans as the lovable chums that the allies really fought?

Oh please !
If Kurosawa would have made a movie about a Japanese soldier sacrifying himself to save another guy because 3 of his brothers have already been killed by the Americans, you would consider that film as pure propaganda.
And you would be right. Especially, if three minutes of the movie would be wasted in admiring a Japanese flag flying with some patriotic orchestration behind.

 

[joycem10]

Oh please !
If Kurosawa would have made a movie about a Japanese soldier sacrifying himself to save another guy because 3 of his brothers have already been killed by the Americans, you would consider that film as pure propaganda.
And you would be right. Especially, if three minutes of the movie would be wasted in admiring a Japanese flag flying with some patriotic orchestration behind.

If Kurosawa made a film about a Japanese Doctor at unit 731 beheading and vivisecting Chinese civilians and American airmen because 3 of his brothers died I might consider it propaganda. Your scenario, no.

Of course, given that Americans aren't obsessed with Japanese culture and film, we probably wouldnt even notice.

 

[thestonesfan]

Oh please !
If Kurosawa would have made a movie about a Japanese soldier sacrifying himself to save another guy because 3 of his brothers have already been killed by the Americans, you would consider that film as pure propaganda.
And you would be right. Especially, if three minutes of the movie would be wasted in admiring a Japanese flag flying with some patriotic orchestration behind.

I would consider it a movie, and would not be surprised since the movie was made in Japan.

 

[Duddha]

I just saw Coffee and Cigarettes, it was pretty bad.

 

[nonconformist]

The waterbabies. Please shoot me.

 

[Marla_Singer]

If Kurosawa made a film about a Japanese Doctor at unit 731 beheading and vivisecting Chinese civilians and American airmen because 3 of his brothers died I might consider it propaganda. Your scenario, no.

A pro-Japanese propaganda. Didn't you get it ?

I would consider it a movie, and would not be surprised since the movie was made in Japan.

Lolol ! How dishonnest you are !

Listen to me carefully. We need movies about World War 2 because remembering it is a Human Duty. But that's not what Saving private Ryan is about. Movies of that kind turn such an ugly war as an epic page of the US History. And that is tremendously dangerous.

Indeed, it's dangerous because of the patriotic motive, it's distorting the message we should give to our children. That message isn't : "those very evil germans did so" ; that message should be : "humans did so and as a human, be careful to not do so".

Is it so hard to get ? How Americans brainwashing themselves in mutually repeating they are the best good for WW2 duty of remembrance ?

 

[Garbarsardar.jr]

If Kurosawa would have made a movie about a Japanese soldier sacrifying himself to save another guy because 3 of his brothers have already been killed by the Americans, you would consider that film as pure propaganda.
And you would be right. Especially, if three minutes of the movie would be wasted in admiring a Japanese flag flying with some patriotic orchestration behind.

A.if kurosawa did that I would burn my kagemusha DVD on the spot.
B.if you keep comparing Kurosawa to friggin Steven I will become disrespectfull of your brilliant world map in the very near future...

BTW the best war movies always come from the part of the side that has lost the war(Das BOOT, Apocalypse Now!, the Iron Cross,The Beast of war). The winning side is always too hellbent on heroics to provide any realism

 

[nonconformist]

Marla, SPR shows all war as bad, but with some people showing their good side:
1. When Omaha is captured, American troops start killing surrendered Germans.
2. In the Ramelle fight, a Waffen S.S soldir fights with Mellish, eventually stabbing him to death with a bayonet. Then, as he leaves the building, he sees Corporl Upham, but Upham is siting on the stairs crying and scared. The German takes a look at him, and then ignored him, carrying on.

 

[Garbarsardar.jr]

In the Ramelle fight, a Waffen S.S soldir fights with Mellish, eventually stabbing him to death with a bayonet. Then, as he leaves the building, he sees Corporl Upham, but Upham is siting on the stairs crying and scared. The German takes a look at him, and then ignored him, carrying on.

the only exceptional scene in this mess.Is it true that this scene was directed by Martin Scorseze because Steve had a bad cold that day?

 

[The Last Conformist]

The thing that bothers me with SPR is that they basically sacrifice a bunch of guys to save one private. OTOH, I could imagine the propagandists conjuring up a such scheme offscreen too, so it may be one of those things one should be bothered by.

The patriotism is a bit strong too, but we've seen so much worse on that ...