While We Wait: Part 2

[Insane_Panda]

Good. I still place Russia through.....

Stop your lies.

We shall all see who invaded who in the update.

 

[~Darkening~]

Stop your lies.

We shall all see who invaded who in the update.

Pffft.

Fine. I now say you invaded him! You're just mad because I'm giving the credit to someone else :].

And we shall see.

 

[LittleBoots]

Any INES speculation as to who won the Great Crusades? Iggy, how well do you think you did in Iberia?

 

[Perfectionist]

A lot depends on whether you kept our peace. Did you?

 

[The Farow]

Did Axum attack Aegypt? That I think would have been another factor in the war.

It all depends on how well our fleet did. If it was successful then Iberia was ours but if it failed well the war would have dragged on for a while.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I think Perf just destroyed my secure naval supply routes. But I don't think he'd manage to do critical damage to my fleet.

I think any attacks against my homeland (unlikely) would result in a massive upwelling of support for me (people feeling separated and uncaring about the war). So Perf probably made an attempt to seize the Mediterranean islands.

However, if my plans for land war went through, I think I may have done some major damage in Iberia.

The war's probably still in the balance.

Oh hey, you don't mind me calling you 'Perf' do you? It's easier, but if it annoys you I'll call you Perfectionist.

 

[Luckymoose]

I updated if you care.

 

[LittleBoots]

The war's probably still in the balance.

Given that Imago said it wasn't, I don't think thats the case. I also know because it was balanced without me.

Perf, in a word, no, I didn't. I have good reasons. Would you like to hear them?

 

[Perfectionist]

Ah, I lost in that case. I would like to hear your reasons, though I might be able to guess at least one of them. You caught my people who masterminded Alexandros' assassination, and had to avenge your great leader.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Bah. Bird, you said yours still hasn't started? INES was my favourite (and only consistent) NES right now. Now that thats gone, I'll take a look at yours.

Please do. Portugal and France are both open plus a host of smaller nations.

 

[fantasmo]

Pffft.

Fine. I now say you invaded him! You're just mad because I'm giving the credit to someone else :].

And we shall see.

It was yoooooooooooooooooooou!

Oh well. Umm, I diploed your arse! Also, I cried. I do question when I trained my army in masonry. Of all things, they became masons. As opposed to, I don't know, soldiers.

 

[Sheep]

I still need an Israel for my nes, that and a South Korea and probably and Italy too.

 

[LittleBoots]

Ah, I lost in that case. I would like to hear your reasons, but I might be able to guess at least one of them. You caught my people who masterminded Alexandros' assassination, and had to avenge your great leader.

Well that answers one question. No, your Ctha'ri assassin killed himself, but my gut (and the fact that you were my main enemy) told me it had to be you. Kal certainly wouldn't've used a Ctha'ri if it were him and no one else would have reason to kill him. Unless they realized that he was a philosophical guy. Thats something you should have realized. You had a much better chance for peace under him than under the next guy I trotted out. For fun, here's a sketch of Byzantine internal politics (as Imago said, they're always ridiculous).

1) Stefanos was essentially raised by Phillipos. A series of talks (in stories I sent to Imago) move Stefanos to accept that his generals don't trust him and that he will be ineffective as Emperor of Byzantium. Stefanos instead becomes next in line for the position of Hierophant-Strategos of the Kyriohippeis.
2) Phillipos assumes temporary Emperorship, passes some sweet laws that I rather carefully designed to try to alleviate dynastic succession problems, and then passes it off to Adrastos, Imperial Cousin and poster child of the House of Leandros (Lion Men). Adrastos is a charming, master politician who happens to have a Machiavellian streak a mile wide.
3) Adrastos has Stefanos assassinated, pins it on the Celts who everyone is beginning to blame for Alexandros' death anyway and the pieces fall into place for everyone. Minoa is pacified, the rebellion at home is over. Adrastos unifies the Empire again.
4) Adrastos triggers a rather large system of spies and assassins previous Emperors put into place (under his direction) and large scale assassinations of Celtic field commanders coincide with Byzantine redeclaration of war due to the fact that Stefanos was never legally emperor (no coronation in Constantinopolis, among other things). Assassinations of Celtic nobles occur; assassinations of Trinitist nobles across the globe occur, including attempts on the kings of Iberia and England; Khazarian Hawks receive the same treatment if Khazaria does not stay mollified, as Byzantine resigns the same peace with them; spies work to turn cultivated nobles to rebellion in Iberia and HCE (in HCE especially, as the description has long since said, before the last update, that the HCE was held together by religion)
5) Greek troops are experienced in Germany, know the terrain, know how to fight; we have copies of the longbow and have incorporated them; we've worked out tactics to deal with your bloody archers; we press through and utilize preplaced spies to open gates; various mind tricks and offers of amnesty for surrender abound

Lets say, I think better in a corner, work better in a pinch. And Adrastos thought Alexandros was everything he wasn't (as in, a good person) and was "mightily abused" over his death.

 

[~Darkening~]

Well, just about everyone but you knew it was coming . For goodness sake, my avatar screams "Never trust a Hippy" and yet, here you trust me! As for the whole thing of david.vs.goliath-thingie, check out NES IV. I was Segu. I'm kinda known for doing incrediably stupid things.

 

[LittleBoots]

Also, there were actually going to be some wide spread assassinations of troublemaking nobles at home just to go along with the theme and maybe cast the blame somewhere else.

The only problem I had is that I essentially had accomplished my goals for the Crusade with tolerance for Kyrians within the HCE and I only had a little bit of moral currency to spend over Alexandros' death. I had to make it count, as I was actually going for a religious state that tried to adhere as well it could to its principles. I really liked that game.

 

[Luckymoose]

Well, just about everyone but you knew it was coming . For goodness sake, my avatar screams "Never trust a Hippy" and yet, here you trust me! As for the whole thing of david.vs.goliath-thingie, check out NES IV. I was Segu. I'm kinda known for doing incrediably stupid things.

NES2 VIb. Do not tarnish thy name of thy nes of thy holiness.

 

[Disenfrancised]

That is the only detail you know. There is more.

Also I predict germanicus will have a baptism of fire.

The territory you sold him is worth more than new england and will be less rebellious to boot.

 

[Kal'thzar]

Heh, Glad you worked that out for yourself Little

I wasn't going to protest about the set up from my POV. Although I figured you'd understand that me getting into a war with ALL my neighbours wasn't exactly smart

on Axum, he told me he was helping me take on the Bachirians, if this is how you planned that, yes he might have invaded.

 

[Kal'thzar]

Thinking about setting up a fresh start. (Due to my nes's haveing died, or resulting in me dieing (ITNES twice!), or about to die (luckNES *mutter* ).

Now since Imagos bit the dust I was going to set a new one up. have nation states, you give me a synopsis of what you want your country to be like, I'll accelerate it to classical era, and play begins.

Intrest at all?

 

[Oruc]

who were you the second time in ITnes?