While We Wait: Part 4

[Luckymoose]

@Charles: That lasted sentence is seriously deep man.

 

[LightFang]

Failed universes go Supernova. Successful ones survive.

Isn't this just from Total Recall...?!

 

[Symphony D.]

Isn't this just from Total Recall...?!

You just had to go and disappoint me. Total Recall was about memory implants, fake memories, Mars, spies, and aliens.

 

[North King]

Seriously though, apart from what Symphony D. said, it seems to me like das did as much, if not more than anyone else to start this whole NESing thing, aside from his modding achievements since then. Thus, he falls victim to people's natural instinct to worship the progenitors of their community.

Depends on what you mean by "this whole NESing thing". I must say I highly respect das as moderator and player (and think he should join my NES), but think the cult is rather irritating, and perhaps discouraging to new mods.

 

[das]

Do the new mods even notice it? I'm not so sure. The main discouragement to new moderators - whether it is justified or not - comes from those people who always come up and tell them that they should first play some other NESes to get some experience. Sometimes it is justified, but there have been many successful NESes started by complete newbies.

 

[alex994]

Depends on what you mean by "this whole NESing thing". I must say I highly respect das as moderator and player (and think he should join my NES), but think the cult is rather irritating, and perhaps discouraging to new mods.

Well, how did you feel about das' "cult of personality" when you started modding a long, long time ago?

For that matter, how do all of you (other mods) feel about das' cult of personality? Iggy? Bird? Fulton?

Personally, I find the cult to be, alas, shameless fun and amusement. I'm sure if das wanted one, he could sprout an alter-ego and have himself worship himself

 

[North King]

Do the new mods even notice it? I'm not so sure. The main discouragement to new moderators - whether it is justified or not - comes from those people who always come up and tell them that they should first play some other NESes to get some experience. Sometimes it is justified, but there have been many successful NESes started by complete newbies.

Yeah, but part of that is the whole mystical tradition we've built around the moderating business. It's all connected: hero worship of moderators, veneration of moderating, elitist exclusion of some from moderation.

Honestly, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm just making this up as I go along. I don't see why new players can't.

Well, how did you feel about das' "cult of personality" when you started modding a long, long time ago?

There's a chronological error in your question.

 

[Azale]

I agree with NK. It's not like we have been taking classes on being mods (oh dear god no).

As for the das cult affecting my moderating...well, I started modding well before das came back. I did try to emulate a few things so the NES would have a better "feel" to it, though I do become frustrated when it dies after 4 or 5 updates and das' just keep chugging along. Still, that's a fault of mine, not of das or the dasian cult

 

[das]

Yeah, but part of that is the whole mystical tradition we've built around the moderating business. It's all connected: hero worship of moderators, veneration of moderating, elitist exclusion of some from moderation.

The thing about moderator elitism is that, at least in ideal, it is inclusive; those newcomers who do well enough will become part of the elitariate, with all the benefits that grants them. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.

 

[alex994]

You know, a few years ago when I just started NESing, I realized some of the words das used weren't really words when I looked them up online. Promptly, I sent an email to the online dictionary in question asking them about the word (since I thought das would not lie to me in updates). I never did get a response on that email years ago...

 

[das]

Neologisms are words too!

 

[North King]

The thing about moderator elitism is that, at least in ideal, it is inclusive; those newcomers who do well enough will become part of the elitariate, with all the benefits that grants them.

Sure, but we could do without the intimidation, which is just plain old rude in most instances.

 

[human-slaughter]

the elitariate is for commies.

 

[das]

Sure, but we could do without the intimidation, which is just plain old rude in most instances.

Frankly, I don't see anything I could reasonably refer to as "intimidation".

 

[qoou]

Do the new mods even notice it? I'm not so sure. The main discouragement to new moderators - whether it is justified or not - comes from those people who always come up and tell them that they should first play some other NESes to get some experience. Sometimes it is justified, but there have been many successful NESes started by complete newbies.

I want Dawkins back...

 

[LightFang]

You just had to go and disappoint me. Total Recall was about memory implants, fake memories, Mars, spies, and aliens.

Uh huh, and there was that whole part with the machine on Mars that went supernova if you didn't do it right and all that about the aliens and how they destroy the world if the civilization ends up being self-destructive or something so they're not capable of entering the galactic community...

Edit: Oh, this was just in the novelization. I don't think it was in the movie. Silly me.

 

[Shadowbound]

It also had Arnold Schwarzenegger. On Mars.

 

[Symphony D.]

Uh huh, and there was that whole part with the machine on Mars that went supernova

Stop, stop! You did it again! I don't EVER want to hear the word "supernova" in the context of anything that is not a Blue Giant Star. I expect it from Charles--I expect better from you. It's like saying "Lulz and the lasers big banged the planet rofl " and it makes me want to beat your face in.

 

[North King]

Frankly, I don't see anything I could reasonably refer to as "intimidation".

Fair enough. Not quite the right word. More... Discouragement.

 

[Supermath]

Stop, stop! You did it again! I don't EVER want to hear the word "supernova" in the context of anything that is not a Blue Giant Star.

How about "supernova" in the context of White Dwarfs that got too big?