While We Wait: Part 5

[Kentharu]

Spirited Away was good, but nothing beats Princess Mononoke imo. Mononoke was a master piece to say the least. Unparallel story line.

 

[flyingchicken]

What's so special about Princess Mononoke? I myself don't find the message one-sided enough to be entertaining.

 

[~Darkening~]

@Dachs: I was just wondering how sad (truly) I was for hating someone I've never met. I was looking over a couple posts last night, and I realized- much to my honest horror- that I hated someone I've never met. It made me very sad.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

Who was it?

 

[silver 2039]

@Dachs: I was just wondering how sad (truly) I was for hating someone I've never met. I was looking over a couple posts last night, and I realized- much to my honest horror- that I hated someone I've never met. It made me very sad.

Its ok. We hate people we've never met all the time. Have you ever met Hitler or Stalin? But you hate them nonetheless no?

 

[Kentharu]

I don't hate Hitler or Stalin...

Princess Mononoke just had more depth to me, a depth in terms of the struggle the main character went through. It wasn't neccessarily more real, but it was, without a doubt, more powerful.

 

[silver 2039]

I don't hate Hitler or Stalin...

Geroge Bush then. Or Muslims, or whatever. Almost everyone hates someone they've never met.

 

[Dachs]

Geroge Bush then. Or Muslims, or whatever. Almost everyone hates someone they've never met.

Now that the Turks and I have settled all extant issues p) I'm pretty sure that I don't. Then again it depends on your definition of hate. [/Clinton]

 

[Kentharu]

Just because i think George Bush is a bumbling moron not fit for the deepest loathing of even an ant, doesn't mean I hate him either

But I see your point, I do hate people in general. Those damn humans...

 

[das]

@Dachs: I was just wondering how sad (truly) I was for hating someone I've never met. I was looking over a couple posts last night, and I realized- much to my honest horror- that I hated someone I've never met. It made me very sad.

That is sad. I hate some groups of people in an abstract sort of way, but as individuals (some of whom I have met) most of them are either okay or beneath contempt.

 

[Dachs]

That is sad. I hate some groups of people in an abstract sort of way, but as individuals (some of whom I have met) most of them are either okay or beneath contempt.

You know, the whole "cat-stroking face-scarred evil schemer plotting out things on a giant wall map" image wasn't particularly helped there, man.

 

[das]

It's not as though you need to hate people to take over the world. If anything, it often gets in the way.

 

[jeps]

I hate some people I have never met before, though I have conversed with none of them even over the internet. For the internet, people may disgust me, but hate is a rather strong emotion for them when i dont know them that well. those in the public eye who clearly state what they believe in, however, one feels that they know better.

For reference, the people I have never met on the hate list are an athlete, a person who is close enough to be a sibling's ex (with VERY good reason), a pastor, and a few choice politicians, none of whom are north american. one is israeli though.

 

[Dachs]

They Might Be Giants covered a song once upon a time. I'd tell you about it but it's nobody's business but the Turks'.

It's not as though you need to hate people to take over the world. If anything, it often gets in the way.

Yeah, but if not hate of something, what's the motivator? Power for power's sake? Material wealth? Saving the world from itself?

 

[das]

I'll take either A or C, possibly a combination thereof. And maybe love for humanity and hatred for its conceits.

 

[Dachs]

Spoiler alert.

I'll take either A or C, possibly a combination thereof. And maybe love for humanity and hatred for its conceits.

Ladies and gentlemen, meet Adrian Veidt.

 

[das]

Sure, why not. Benevolent despotism is always an option. On a related topic, another thing that could be said in favour of Yulia Latynina's books is that they had some really great villains (some of whom were technically protagonists, including Clearchus); it made the sheer hubris+pleonexia model look good again, which is always nice to see when there are so many "tragic, sympathetic" villains on one hand and incarnations of pure abstract evil on the other. "...and he loves money more than life, and power - more than money...".

 

[Dachs]

Sure, why not.

You've read Watchmen, right?

On a related topic, another thing that could be said in favour of Yulia Latynina's books is that they had some really great villains (some of whom were technically protagonists, including Clearchus); it made the sheer hubris+pleonexia model look good again, which is always nice to see when there are so many "tragic, sympathetic" villains on one hand and incarnations of pure abstract evil on the other. "...and he loves money more than life, and power - more than money...".

Man, I'm learning Arabic, not Russian. A dude can only do so much at once, and now you're making me want to learn a totally different language. Uncool?

 

[~Darkening~]

Who was it?

Was this really a question?

Its ok. We hate people we've never met all the time. Have you ever met Hitler or Stalin? But you hate them nonetheless no?

I believe we're talking about two different things. It is acceptable to dislike someone like Hitler or Stalin, or any of the other freaks that deserve it. What I was pondering is that there is someone- (questionably) sane but incredibly annoying- that I can't stand. I was actually prepared to do everything in my power to smite this person before I became horrified with realizing what I was doing.

Almost everyone hates someone they've never met.

Problem is that I honestly hate very little. I may dislike, or disapprove, but I don't go as far as to get emotionally attached enough to generally hate someone. I'll turn away from the subject, begin to ignore them, or do anything possible to remove myself from the situation. Aside from a very few minor people (alive currently), I do not believe I hate that many people.

That is sad. I hate some groups of people in an abstract sort of way, but as individuals (some of whom I have met) most of them are either okay or beneath contempt.

I somewhat agree. There is such a wide variety of people out there that you simply can't lump them under such a few groups.

I hate some people I have never met before, though I have conversed with none of them even over the internet. For the internet, people may disgust me, but hate is a rather strong emotion for them when i dont know them that well. those in the public eye who clearly state what they believe in, however, one feels that they know better.

For reference, the people I have never met on the hate list are an athlete, a person who is close enough to be a sibling's ex (with VERY good reason), a pastor, and a few choice politicians, none of whom are north american. one is israeli though.

That's the saddest part for me. How can I hate someone I've never met, aside from (attempting to) ignore them over the Internet? What does it imply when you can lower yourself to such a standard without contemplation beforehand? Ironically, the people I hate are not public, but are much more private than that. A person who stands in the public eye is more or less composed, more or less fake, to the point that they are not their true selves. There a few nutballs in the wings, but the majority are out to simply define their selves by the public perception. Through I do not hate them, I dislike these people for that reason alone.

Simple Point: I am deeply saddened by the influence you people are having over me .

 

[flyingchicken]

(questionably) sane but incredibly annoying

*raises hand*

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