Why did god create humans?

[GenMarshall]

Intresting that you use on of my quotes yet ignore a post where I say that if someone wants to discuss the existence of god they make a new thread. 'God doesn't exist' is a legitimate answer to the thread question.

I am just tired of arguing and trying to get my point across in a forum filled with atheists "who don't get it".. No offense to any atheist, but when I talk about the existence of God, its like talking to a brick wall.

 

[Tee Kay]

I am just tired of arguing and trying to get my point across in a forum filled with atheists "who don't get it".. No offense to any atheist, but when I talk about the existence of God, its like talking to a brick wall.

The definition of an athiest is anti-religious, so no wonder . . .

 

[Red Door]

Seriously though, if god exists, then i assumed he wanted people to live and to suffer. Though i dont know why he gives people free will and at the same time has people that are born with mental conditions that can create sinners/murderers.

Well, that's where you're wrong. You can look at a religious person's answer, or you can continue to make false assumptions.

 

[Swedishguy]

I am just tired of arguing and trying to get my point across in a forum filled with atheists "who don't get it".. No offense to any atheist, but when I talk about the existence of God, its like talking to a brick wall.

...and vice versa.

Here's the difference:

Christians base their beliefs on experience or other people's experience's.

Atheists base their beliefs on rationality.

So, yes. It's like talking to a wall for both parts.

 

[Sidhe]

Why did the FSM create a mountain a midget and a tree?

Who knows, all I can say is he fudged up and fudged up bad.

 

[Bill3000]

The definition of an athiest is anti-religious, so no wonder . . .

No, not really. One can be both an atheist and respect religion.

 

[Paradigne]

Not exactly. Science can be proven if you accept the basic proposition the the universe, or anything outside of your own mind, exists. Which can't be proven, only believed - so ironically enough, even science is based on an unprovable (And undisprovable) assumption.


Why can't God benefit from humans existing? Since He is perfect, He can't experience love or joy?

There was a time when 'science' believed the heavens were a dome filled with holes. There was a time when science belived that the stars could not have planets about them. I beleive science is working backwards. Everything exists until it is proven not to

 

[Mr. Dictator]

he needed an ego boost.

 

[Abaddon]

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Spite

 

[aaglo]

If I was a god and created humans, I'd be deeply ashamed.

 

[Elrohir]

Then you get into the strange scenario of realising the He could create more humans, to be even more happy. While there are certainly a fixed number of humans in our universe, you could then posit that He's created other universes (an infinite number) teeming with humans. It's a strange idea.

As well, if He likes creating humans so much, it's not being done very efficiently. You'd think that He likes misery, then. He's created, what?, roughly 60 billion humans? What portion of them were miserable? A pretty decent number, I'd think.

First of all, who says God hasn't created many unverses with many intelligent beings in them? There's nothing in the Bible to suggest that He has or has not, and I'm certainly open to the possibility that our universe is only one of many. I don't necessarily believe that - but I don't disbelieve it, either.

I don't agree with your logic, though. Going by your logic, if eating a chocolate bar makes you happy, then you would be even happier if you ate 50. But you wouldn't be - you would just be sick. I'm not saying God wouldn't enjoy creating more people - I'm just saying that you can't necessarily say He would have to, or that He would. Who says He doesn't just want one planet full of people, and not a trillion? Is everything we want and desire rational? We were made in God's image. I don't think true, agape love is rational, but God loves us anyway, and I try to love others. Just because something isn't completely rational doesn't mean that isn't the way it is, or the way it should be.

There was a time when 'science' believed the heavens were a dome filled with holes. There was a time when science belived that the stars could not have planets about them. I beleive science is working backwards. Everything exists until it is proven not to

So until science proves otherwise, white dwarf stars are actually populated by white dwarves with long beards? Huh?

 

[Gogf]

Everything exists until it is proven not to

The problem with this logic is that is leads to an inconsistency: there is no proof that a proof invalidating this entire argument does not exist.

 

[SG-17]

He likes to play civilization, just on a giant scale

 

[Sidhe]

He likes to play civilization, just on a giant scale

You forgot to add he's rubbish at it.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Hey, He has done better than any of us - bear in mind He is playing all the civs at once.

 

[ComradeDavo]

I am just tired of arguing and trying to get my point across in a forum filled with atheists "who don't get it".. No offense to any atheist, but when I talk about the existence of God, its like talking to a brick wall.

Vice versa.

 

[Guangxi]

i do not believe in gods.

 

[El_Machinae]

Keep in mind that I have eaten well over 50 chocolate bars; since I'm stuck in time, I can have a near infinite number of chocolate bars and not be sick from them - as long as I take advantage of the nature of time. God doesn't need to do this, putatively.

I don't think true, agape love is rational, but God loves us anyway, and I try to love others. Just because something isn't completely rational doesn't mean that isn't the way it is, or the way it should be.

This is a strange thought, to me. You're saying that the ideal (putatively) form of love is not rational? I don't know who would agree with that. Most people would say that true love is truely rational. (You should also keep in mind that those Greek definitions of love are somewhat primitive)

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Why did god create humans?

We're his imaginary friends.

 

[Sidhe]

We're his imaginary friends.

Errr... I think you mixed that up, he's our imaginary friend yes