Rossiya
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But you can say to everybody for evermore that you have worked in McDonald's, and you can't put a price on that.
Why is Mcdonalds not bankrupt..?
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But you can say to everybody for evermore that you have worked in McDonald's, and you can't put a price on that.
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
I'd love to do that! Put the patty in a teriyaki marinade, then grill it with a slice of pineapple, top it with cheese, lettuce, tomato MMMMM-MMMM.
But I live in an apartment and don't have anywhere to put a grill.
warpus
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I'd love to do that! Put the patty in a teriyaki marinade, then grill it with a slice of pineapple, top it with cheese, lettuce, tomato MMMMM-MMMM.
That sounds good, but I usually (ok, I've only done this once) use worcestershire sauce.
But I live in an apartment and don't have anywhere to put a grill.
Get a black boxer dude grill! They're great.
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
An African American Boxer Man Grill, huh? I hear those are indeed great. I'll have to look into that!
(btw it's George Forman I think)
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
They're a -itch to clean, though.
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
For real?They're a -itch to clean, though.
And the commercial always said it was really easy to clean.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
They're a -itch to clean, though.
Mine's always super-easy to clean. What the hell are you grilling???
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
Nothing. I got rid of the stupid piece of crap. It's too big to fit over the sink, too big to fit a bucket under the bottom of, so I ended up getting soapy grease all over the surface it was above. Then I had a soapy greasy grill and a soapy greasy counter. Damn that thing.
Narz
keeping it real
Just because the food is not tainted doesn't mean it's not going to make you sick. Be aware one can get sick simply from eating crappy food not because the food has e-coli in it. You can sanitize & disinfect dog sh!t but it's still dog sh!t.
You're not really one to judge his experience, are you?
Sure it is.
AFAIK, corn is heavily subsidized and corn is also in just about everything McDonalds serves (including thousands of pounds that go into feeding the meat-animals they serve). The dairy industry is also subsidized and the meat industry also is, AFAIK (on top of the too-low prices they get the corn they feed the meat).
In a completely free market economy there is no way a McBurger would cost $.99. In an economy that forced companies to be socially, ethically and environmentally responsible, I'd imagine said burger would cost about $8 (but would be many-fold healthier and probably taste far superior to boot.
Oh. See, I got a table to hold it outside and a cover for it. I clean it before and after (since it is kept outside). Alternatively, they made a mini version.
innonimatu
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You are underestimating cattle breeders resourcefulness in a completely free market economy (not that they can't get away with the same things in a badly regulated one
). If even a fraction of what is described here (printable version!) is true, your hamburger can have as inputs only hormones, antibiotics and recycled garbage...
Narz
keeping it real
They are still fed massive amounts of grains to bulk them up. It's just they need the antibiotics and all that other crap just to keep them alive on such an unnatural diet with no exercise, fresh air or happiness/freedom.You are underestimating cattle breeders resourcefulness in a completely free market economy (not that they can't get away with the same things in a badly regulated one
Probably in a completely unregulated market the meat industry would try to cut costs even more but it's unlikely they could cut them much more than they already are without killing the animals prematurely (or with an end result of meat too diseased to sell), they seem to already be toeing that line pretty tightly as is.
nivi
Call me Ishmael
Not really, it's more down to the fact that there are so many of them cramped into a small space with little to no room to move that the last thing they'd want is a bug to be loose in the herd, because it would spread like wildfire.
Narz
keeping it real
I don't think we're in disagreement. If they were living a more natural lifestyle (allowed to move around properly and not be so cramped is part of that) then they're wouldn't be the need for all the drugs and anit-biotics just to keep them from keeling over.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
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They get subsadies from state goverments for 'training' workers (I've worked in similar. There is near no training. The machines are idiot proof)
Link to proof please
and they are some of the most enthuiastic partisipants in the 'welfare-to-work' schemes in the states they are run.
Umm, okay?
They will go to long lengths to avoid costs, such as a 'full time' job at MD's will be 30 mins less than the defined limit of 'full time' work, so they don't get sick pay and such. The goverment allows them to get away with this.
That is not a subsidy. That is done by a milleu of companies, from big companies like McDonalds to your neighborhood Mom n Pop store
Some places have manditory, unpaid overtime (classic trick - you need to get to work for 6am to turn everything on, set the chairs etc, but you only 'clock on' when the first customer walks in, say 8am?)
That would be illegal under US law. Therefore, I am not inclined to believe it. As someone who had a job in HS at McD's, I clocked in when I showed up, regardless of when the store opened. If this has been your experience, you should report the violation immediately to OSHA
They get subsadies from state goverments for 'training' workers (I've worked in similar. There is near no training. The machines are idiot proof)
Link to proof please
and they are some of the most enthuiastic partisipants in the 'welfare-to-work' schemes in the states they are run.
Umm, okay?
They will go to long lengths to avoid costs, such as a 'full time' job at MD's will be 30 mins less than the defined limit of 'full time' work, so they don't get sick pay and such. The goverment allows them to get away with this.
That is not a subsidy. That is done by a milleu of companies, from big companies like McDonalds to your neighborhood Mom n Pop store
Some places have manditory, unpaid overtime (classic trick - you need to get to work for 6am to turn everything on, set the chairs etc, but you only 'clock on' when the first customer walks in, say 8am?)
That would be illegal under US law. Therefore, I am not inclined to believe it. As someone who had a job in HS at McD's, I clocked in when I showed up, regardless of when the store opened. If this has been your experience, you should report the violation immediately to OSHA
Because, I, and a lot of other people think it tastes good, while theyre usually located by the road or at central places. Thats why alot of people stop by there when theyre on the road, or in the city shopping. (Im talking about normal people who stop there once in a while, not the mom who's to lazy to cook so she takes her son to McD 3 times a week and blame society because hes fat)
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
Funny, here it's one of the most expensive things, mothers take their children there after they did something good, since they normally wouldn't afford taking them there more often.
mmmkay?
MD's is a franchise system. How each franchisor acts in regards to opening hours, pay etc is up to them, not MD's. Some will be honest. Others will be like Mr Burns. Same with nearly all other fat-food takeaways.
1) Go wikipedia it. 'nuff said. Then look at the quoted sources.
2) Go visit http://www.mcspotlight.org . Please. This is the kinda site which has enough quotes from reliable sources to make a whole planeload of essay markers happy.
3) The program I refer to is Workfare. Go to http://www.aclu.org/reproductiverights/gen/16395res19950401.html for more details. Workfare is cheap, forced labour. MD's labour is very simple. Workfare people are grossly underpaid. MD's deducts large amount of money from their tax bill for 'training'. See below for more about 'training'
4) The automation of MD's are legendary in Management & Economics circles. As a Economics student, my group were actully shown a MD's 'kitchen' a couple of years back, showing the ultimate expresson of Fordism. It would be completly automated by now excepting that robots are more expensive than minimum-wage people.
Next time you are at a MD's, or equivilent, listen and watch the back. Hear the beeps and whistles? That's the drones being told to turn, take out or put in. All the machines have pictrograms so even the illiterate can use them. Some of the tills have pictures on them, just to help the staff. The bags and boxes have labels on them, to tell what goes in what. You may see some staff moving around, but that's only because they are understaffed. With a full staff, they can turn out a meal every 20 seconds or so.
5) A large amount of MD's workers are immigrants with little knowalge of local laws and/or the official state language. There is some s***bag employers who will take advantage of these people, and push them in ways that they wouldn't dare with others, who are aware of their rights.
6)
Mis-representation of products is also illigal to US law. So is false accounting. And wiretapping. And breaking embargos. If you are logical, you also don't believe these things happen either.......
But it is common knowlage they do.
So you don't say 'source?' i'll say - Enron.
7) The OSHA is one of the most toothless organisations in human history. It's critically short of everything from money & men, is easily corruptible and has lost power of independent action since the Regan era. It no longer even has the power for a 'unwarned' inspection of a workplace unless there has been a series of serious complaints. Even then, they are easy to trick, bully or bribe.
MD's is a franchise system. How each franchisor acts in regards to opening hours, pay etc is up to them, not MD's. Some will be honest. Others will be like Mr Burns. Same with nearly all other fat-food takeaways.
1) Go wikipedia it. 'nuff said. Then look at the quoted sources.
2) Go visit http://www.mcspotlight.org . Please. This is the kinda site which has enough quotes from reliable sources to make a whole planeload of essay markers happy.
3) The program I refer to is Workfare. Go to http://www.aclu.org/reproductiverights/gen/16395res19950401.html for more details. Workfare is cheap, forced labour. MD's labour is very simple. Workfare people are grossly underpaid. MD's deducts large amount of money from their tax bill for 'training'. See below for more about 'training'
4) The automation of MD's are legendary in Management & Economics circles. As a Economics student, my group were actully shown a MD's 'kitchen' a couple of years back, showing the ultimate expresson of Fordism. It would be completly automated by now excepting that robots are more expensive than minimum-wage people.
Next time you are at a MD's, or equivilent, listen and watch the back. Hear the beeps and whistles? That's the drones being told to turn, take out or put in. All the machines have pictrograms so even the illiterate can use them. Some of the tills have pictures on them, just to help the staff. The bags and boxes have labels on them, to tell what goes in what. You may see some staff moving around, but that's only because they are understaffed. With a full staff, they can turn out a meal every 20 seconds or so.
5) A large amount of MD's workers are immigrants with little knowalge of local laws and/or the official state language. There is some s***bag employers who will take advantage of these people, and push them in ways that they wouldn't dare with others, who are aware of their rights.
6)
Mis-representation of products is also illigal to US law. So is false accounting. And wiretapping. And breaking embargos. If you are logical, you also don't believe these things happen either.......
But it is common knowlage they do.
So you don't say 'source?' i'll say - Enron.
7) The OSHA is one of the most toothless organisations in human history. It's critically short of everything from money & men, is easily corruptible and has lost power of independent action since the Regan era. It no longer even has the power for a 'unwarned' inspection of a workplace unless there has been a series of serious complaints. Even then, they are easy to trick, bully or bribe.
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