Why is same-sex marriage "wrong"?

[Gladi]

Bright day
Why it is wrong for state to recognise and support families with two healthy non-criminal homosexual parents?

And please, arguments would be especially welcome. Unlike I read it is wrong, or I heard it is wrong, nor my uncle's brother's friend knows guy who told him that homosexual want to kill us all.

 

[warpus]

It's not wrong, but some people like to pretend that it is because homosexuality disguists them.

 

[Sidhe]

It isn't who told you that, any links

The only argument I can see that it is wrong is religous and it's flimsy as hell, from what I've seen. It's rhetoric out of context and frankly if I see the quotes one more time from Leviticus or Romans or whatever I'm going to explode Believe it or not most people couldn't give a damn what some two thousand year old legal system wants to proseltyse and in fact the writers of those versus are the same race that has changed it's mind completely on such issues, why don't you join them and give up this mindlessly intolerant nonsense? No nm then

It's not wrong, but some people like to pretend that it is because homosexuality disguists them.

Precisely it's their conditioning by nature and nurture, they can't nor do they want to over come it, because people didn't in the past so wer're told, they are unable to get past there natures.

 

[Tycoon101]

It undermines heterosexual marriage!

Blah, blah, blah. Etc., etc., etc. And yes, they WILL kill us all in the future

 

[Gladi]

It isn't who told you that, any links

well these guys for example in US/ and many other people. (I especialy like argument of Czech president: they should not have a family because we don't allow them a family]

And please, it would be nice if we got to hear the argument .

 

[warpus]

I am actually disguisted by male homosexual sex, but that's simply because I'm straight. My body is wired to be attracted to women and to find sex between men disguisting.

However, I understand that somebody else might be wired differently - and might even find sex between a man and a woman disguisting.

Do I find it disguisting? Yes. Do I think it's wrong? I wouldn't do it personally - but I don't think it's wrong. Sex between two consenting adults is never wrong.

And so I think that marriage between two consenting adults is never wrong.

 

[CurtSibling]

It's not wrong, but some people like to pretend that it is because homosexuality disguists them.

Exactly, and they try to give their nosy and unsociable ideas weight by using holy books as a basis.

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[Sidhe]

well these guys for example in US/ and many other people. (I especialy like argument of Czech president: they should not have a family because we don't allow them a family]

And please, it would be nice if we got to hear the argument .

Yes hearing the argument is always nice, they'd have to have one that made sense first though, I've yet to see anything logically consistent so I'm not hopeful based on past history.

 

[CurtSibling]

It undermines heterosexual marriage!

Blah, blah, blah. Etc., etc., etc. And yes, they WILL kill us all in the future

I am striaght and I couldn't care less about heterosexual marriage.

Then again, I don't live in the 1870s.

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[Smidlee]

The heart of this kind of debates is around the word "Wrong". So the real question is where should moral beliefs come from and which should impact government laws?

 

[Gladi]

The heart of this kind of debates is around the word "Wrong". So the real question is where should moral beliefs come from and which should impact government laws?

Well AFAIK the "good" is what is\promotes posite growth of people and society and protects those from hurt, while "bad\wrong\evil" is\promote hurt and prevents positive growth. Anybody has an objection?

 

[puglover]

The heart of this kind of debates is around the word "Wrong". So the real question is where should moral beliefs come from and which should impact government laws?

I believe morality comes from the source, namely God. According to God, homosexuality is a perversion. This is my moral stance.

However, I am also in the school of people who think that governments should be very small, and allow citizens greater freedom. This is my civic stance.

Therefore, I will discourage homosexuality, but allow people the freedom to practice it.

 

[Gladi]

I believe morality comes from the source, namely God. According to God, homosexuality is a perversion. This is my moral stance.

However, I am also in the school of people who think that governments should be very small, and allow citizens greater freedom. This is my civic stance.

Ah, at last!
Which God? And why does he say it?

 

[puglover]

Ah, at last!
Which God? And why does he say it?

The risen Christ. His reasons are beyond my understanding, but it would seem that same-sex relationships are a twisting of what is natural that appeared after Adam's fall.

 

[Gladi]

The risen Christ. His reasons are beyond my understanding, but it would seem that same-sex relationships are a twisting of what is natural that appeared after Adam's fall.

But even if they are not natural, how are they wrong?

EDIT: ANd if it is not wrong, how can you believe in such a god?

 

[Simon Darkshade]

To be honest, the Good Lord's position on the intricacies of sodomy aren't what bought me to him.

People have the free will to sin, but it should not be accomodated by the rest of society. Homosexuality is in itself a perversion from the norm, and a very small minority of the populace are involved in it. Of that fraction, far from all are interested in, or care for, the idea of homosexual marriage. A very small group, and not one that requires the attention of society, nor pandering to their wishes.

There is the slippery slope argument, which has its merits.

I am not a proponent of civil or secular marriage in any fashion, let alone for those of whatever sexual perversion or taste.

If all they want are various guarantees and safeguards, then those can be arranged differently and quietly, just as they should be for carers, or close friends, or for anyone in a de facto relationship. But no civil unions, no confetti, no recognised partnerships, no gilding the lilly to hide the fact that people are very different, and no further territorial demands.

Some people just can't get into some clubs, and that is the way it is.

 

[Sidhe]

The risen Christ. His reasons are beyond my understanding, but it would seem that same-sex relationships are a twisting of what is natural that appeared after Adam's fall.

Christ never mentions Homosexuality directly in the bible, so no untrue, and if your asying that when he said sin he meant all forms of sin yes, but then do we really know whether he personally considered it a sin, it's a logical phalacy made on assumption, essentially it's worthless.

Also why do you have to believe everything in the Bible or some part and not others?

What in actuality lies under the religous belief, is it disgust? or on a personal level are you actually quite tolerant and completely directed by the bible?

If your just blindly following 2000 year old laws, why? Have you noticed societies change over time? If it's just disgust based on your nature? You should demand that you get over yourself, if it's both then you should get over yourself and the bible, it's out of date in many areas, if that is patently the case then why cannot be out of date on this one specific area. I'll tell you why because of the natural ingrained belief that it's icky pretty much, nothing more nothing less.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

GAY MARRIGE IS BAD. It is immoral, disgusting and unnatural. Some one should find a cure for gayness.

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[Erik Mesoy]

Like AL_DA_GREAT more or less said, same-sex marriage is "wrong" because

getting poopoo on your weewee is icky

and that's all there is to that, really.


Seriously, did you actually expect to get answers on this subject?

 

[Simon Darkshade]

With the research being done into designing people, that is not outside of the realms of possibility at some future stage.

As for now, the cure is the same as it is for all such ailments - don't act on any inclinations. Nothing and no one forces one to act but oneself. Actions have consequences, such as in some cases, closing off alternate paths. People should take responsbility for their actions in all things.

As for not favouring same sex marriage coming from an aversion to ickiness, not the case. Girls - they are icky. A man and a woman - that is positively icky. Two adult blokes - Not icky, I just don't see the point. Does nothing for me.

I can see the point and unfortunate necessity for heterosexual coitus, but a homosexual union is very unlikely to be blessed with human offspring.