Why isn't Phi/Ind in the game?

[TriPp]

Yeah, I know what they were thinking, but I just disagree with it The leaders aren't balanced and someone has to be the most powerful, so why not ind/phil

Just curious but what are the other 2 missing combos?
Just yesterday i was about to start a new game thinking of what leader i wanted to play when i soon thought "IND/PHI" sadly i looked up and down that list for a good 5mins in dissapointment. I dont get why they would leave out any combos!
It should be a persons choice if they want that advantage/disadvantage or not especially with a single player game... I know some people play MP but really how hard would it be to set a banlist of leaders you didnt want ingame at the beginning of a MP match if its that big of a deal. *shrugs

 

[JujuLautre]

Just curious but what are the other 2 missing combos?

Creative/charismatic and Organized/protective.

I'd love to have a japanese leader with the latter combo

 

[Ashurdan]

So, now my question is were these other two combo's omitted for the same reason or are they incidental? I actually think PHI+IND could work with the USA, late UU and late UB would help to offset the advantage and I agree that just because it opens an avenue of exploitation does not mean it should not be included, as seen with Boudicea. Nobunaga as Org+Pro I think could fit.

 

[Andvare]

Cha+Cre would make an awful strong starter. +1-2 happy and rapidly expanding borders. Also both traits which grows near redundant later (only their added effect outside what I outlined has relevance later).

Org+Pro I don't see, mayhaps there just wasn't room? Or they thought it too weak?

 

[futurehermit]

the advantage of crea is in conflict with the advantage of cha though imo. being able to skip monuments/stonehenge is one of the main effects of crea. having to build them/it to get the extra 1 for cha kinda sucks imo.

 

[obsolete]

Easily fixed. Give them % discount on obelisks, and/or StoneHenge.

 

[kniteowl]

I don't care about Cha/Cre Conflicting bonuses, I'd still build Monuments for the +1 Happy, their cheaper then Temples and any other Happy producing buildings (from my memory)

But if you really picky about it, then pick one of the Civs with a UB as a monument, Egypt, Native Americans or Epothia (can't spell :S) for the Cha/Cre Combination, Look at Hatty, she's creative and I still build Oblisk with her.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

the advantage of crea is in conflict with the advantage of cha though imo. being able to skip monuments/stonehenge is one of the main effects of crea. having to build them/it to get the extra 1 for cha kinda sucks imo.

BtS design doc actually cited this as the reason Cha/Cre was left out. Load of crap if you ask me.

 

[Molybdeus]

the advantage of crea is in conflict with the advantage of cha though imo. being able to skip monuments/stonehenge is one of the main effects of crea. having to build them/it to get the extra 1 for cha kinda sucks imo.

Just give them a unique building that replaces the culture bonus with something different.

 

[Incan Emperor]

Change the Celt UB to the monolith, they built Stonehenge after all didnt they? Give it the same crappy bonus that dunns have and add a third leader for them with Cha/Cre, cant think of one though.

I know!!! that Gaulish druid from La Téne who was sort of a diplomatic contact with Julius Caesar, the french Celts or Gauls where much more spiritual and intellectual that their English counterparts. Its just that the Dunns suck so bad, I hate building walls and the Dunns effect is negligible and circumstantial, I rarely ever build the Celtic UB.

If you change it the way I say both Boudicca and the new leader would benefit from it extensively, not to mention Brennus who isnt Creative can still take advantage from Stonehenge/Monuments.

 

[Slashninja1467]

I would love to see Phi/Ind implemented.

I'm a Gandhi lover and lately i've been trying to pull off cultural victories. If he got this combo, he would be guarenteed both Pyramids and The Oracle.