Why should Antiabortionist care if others do an abortion???

[Sidhe]

Whatever your definition of murdur is, my definition is the killinn gof other people. It is the most immoral, imho.



I was always lead to believe taht "Sidhe's law" is to make long annoying sometimes trolling posts to anyone Sidhe disagrees with saying how group X is brainwashed or stupid.

I've said individuals sound like they are brainwashed but not whole groups. If you don't like what I post then ignore me, squite simple. Oh and kindly back up your statements would you, its very easy to claim I do things, but harder to find me doing them, particularly when I don't, thus I wouldn't expect any proof to this. I also suspect you find them annoying because you don't agree with them, in future try debating what I post maybe, without resorting to unfounded insults?

As to your first point, you mean killing in war, or in self defence as well, sounds like your a tad confused about the definition too, you can label abortion as morally unacceptable but that doesn't make it murder, I don't think people get this, you can't just make up a definition for something when it suits you, people wont take you seriously.

 

[Tycoon101]

I haven't really made up my mind of whether it really is a person or not, but it does develope into a human. That is why it is murdur.

Do we consider a chicken embryo within an egg a chicken?

Do we consider a fetus within a whale, a whale?

If you said yes to both then that must mean that a fetus is a human.

 

[.Shane.]

That is why it is murdur.

No. That's why you think it is murder.

 

[Tulkas12]

No. That's why you think it is murder.

He has legit reasons for thinking so wouldn't you agree? So in regards to the OP the question has been effectively answered.

 

[.Shane.]

He has legit reasons for thinking so wouldn't you agree? So in regards to the OP the question has been effectively answered.

Sure, I agree that in his mind his reasoning may be legitimate. I don't think I said or suggested otherwise. I'm merely pointing out that its opinion and not fact.

 

[Taliesin]

People who think that an embryo possesses a human soul from day one should consider the following:

It is estimated that up to 50% of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously, usually before the woman knows she is pregnant.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001488.htm

This means that half the souls in heaven will be microscopic balls of cells. Or worse, if you believe there is literally no salvation outside of baptism, then half the souls in hell will be microscopic balls of cells.

Seem a little absurd?

I think the Jewish concept, of the soul entering the body when it is halfway out of the womb, is much more sensible.

 

[.Shane.]

People who think that an embryo possesses a human soul from day one should consider the following:

So the woman herself is an anti-life abortionist? I think we need to ask god to intervene on behalf of the cell balls in hell to punish whoever it is that created this machine of death known as the female reproductive cycle.

I will surely say a prayer against this perpetrator of evil. May he roast in hell.

WHERE IS ERIC RUDOLPH WHEN YOU NEED HIM MOST?

 

[Taliesin]

So the woman herself is an anti-life abortionist? I think we need to ask god to intervene on behalf of the cell balls in hell to punish whoever it is that created this machine of death known as the female reproductive cycle.

I will surely say a prayer against this perpetrator of evil. May he roast in hell.

WHERE IS ERIC RUDOLPH WHEN YOU NEED HIM MOST?

It's her fault, remember? Now we finally understand that by "bring forth in sorrow," God meant, "half of your children will never possess organs."

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

One of the worst consequences of the laws we have, that deny the fetus of all rights, is that if another person besides the mother causes an abortion without her consent, there is no punishment beyond what he does to the mother. So if a man beats a woman so hard she miscarries, even though she has lost a child she wanted to bring to term, there is nothing that can be done about it (beyond the assault to her).