Windows 10

The #1 feature Windows should have had ages ago is patching without rebooting. It was OK pre W2k since the system would crash sooner or later anyway, but since then it's been a huge PITA.
 
A 3 day window is better than 15 minutes, but there really should be no forced restart at all. Linux has had this right for decades now, and unlike many of the other recent improvements this is something only MS can do.
 
I wouldn't mind even just restarting Explorer. I've actually gotten into the habit of doing it every couple hours; it works pretty well for memory usage. (Not that I'm short.)
 
I'm afraid the desktop is going to disappear in future versions of Windows. One would assume that native Windows 8 versions of current software will be released and soon M$ will decide to eliminate the desktop in Win 9 or 10, if this tablet nonsense keeps going on...
 
BirraImperial said:
I'm afraid the desktop is going to disappear in future versions of Windows. One would assume that native Windows 8 versions of current software will be released and soon M$ will decide to eliminate the desktop in Win 9 or 10, if this tablet nonsense keeps going on...
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Well, since I already responded to that in this thread, I guess I'll just quote myself:

Zelig said:
I don't think the desktop is at much risk of going away in the near future, you can still run 16-bit Windows 3.1 programs on Win8 32-bit.

MS might finally get around to not releasing a 32-bit version of Windows with Win9. If they follow this timeline for deprecating the desktop, you've got until 2032 before it happens.
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Also, I see what you did with M$, replacing the S with a dollar sign because they make so much money. That's pretty clever.
 
Zelig said:
Well, since I already responded to that in this thread, I guess I'll just quote myself:
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Can you run DOS apps in Windows 8?? Not without the help of an emulator. I'm not saying Microsoft is dropping the desktop anytime soon, but it seems to me that things will eventually go in that direction. Look at the desktop now, it's there but it's not the core of your Windows experience anymore. It's like some sort of legacy mode or emulator. And that is a change that not a lot of people like.

I like Windows 8, it works fine, it runs faster than 7, but I don't like the tablet look it has. It was clearly designed with tablets in mind.

Zelig said:
Also, I see what you did with M$, replacing the S with a dollar sign because they make so much money. That's pretty clever.
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Clever indeed. The problem is that M$ is not making so much money anymore...and the reason is that PC's are dying...thanks to the rise of the tablets.
 
Oh, I thought this thread was going to be about windows 9, silly me. :p

I don't hate Metro, I just feel better when it's not around. :)
 
BirraImperial said:
Can you run DOS apps in Windows 8?? Not without the help of an emulator. I'm not saying Microsoft is dropping the desktop anytime soon, but it seems to me that things will eventually go in that direction. Look at the desktop now, it's there but it's not the core of your Windows experience anymore. It's like some sort of legacy mode or emulator. And that is a change that not a lot of people like.

I like Windows 8, it works fine, it runs faster than 7, but I don't like the tablet look it has. It was clearly designed with tablets in mind.
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Yes, you can run DOS apps in Windows 8 32-bit. And honestly, pretty much nobody cares about this ability anymore. I can't imagine they'll drop the desktop when anybody still cares about it.

And the desktop still is the core of the Windows experience if you choose not to use Metro apps. I use a triple monitor Windows 8 setup, the desktop is significantly improved from Windows 7, and I never see any metro apps.

BirraImperial said:
Clever indeed. The problem is that M$ is not making so much money anymore...and the reason is that PC's are dying...thanks to the rise of the tablets.
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Eh? They had record 2012 revenues. Proportion of their revenue due to Windows has been falling for years, but they're still a printing press. Only Exxon, Chevron and Apple are going to have higher profit in 2013.
 
Actually, the DOS-mode in the NT-based system is more of a simulated DOS than anything; it's not really all that useful. If you want to really use DOS applications you're better off with DOSBox and D-Fend Reloaded or something. (On the other hand, other than some vintage games, I've found replacements for all the old DOS applications I used to use. So it's not a big issue for me anymore. It had been when I first made the switch from 98 to XP.)
 
Till said:
A 3 day window is better than 15 minutes, but there really should be no forced restart at all. Linux has had this right for decades now, and unlike many of the other recent improvements this is something only MS can do.
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Well the other improvement is that it's also 3 days every month, rather than 15 minutes almost every week (or so it seems). As in, the non-critical updates now only trigger restarts on the first Tuesday of every month (+ 3 day grace), rather than triggering restarts whenever WU deigns to check.
 
With the fast boot times provided by the current hardware/software, I'm surprised there are ppl still complaining about rebooting their PC.
 
i lost the link but seems the windows 9 maybe delayed as they are working on windows 8.2
i thought they havent even put out 8.1
what is going on
 
Well clearly, if your source is correct, they are delaying Windows 9 to further support WIndows 8 with a 8.2 update that will do stuff 8.1 isn't and will require its own development time, instead of delaying 8.1.
 
Yeah 2014 sounded real fast. It also seems from poking around that theres no plans to bring back the startmenu but instead the startscreen. It'd be nice to at least provide an option, as having a start menu taking up a whole screen is a little jarring imo even if functionality is the same.

Edit: on the other hand the only reason I even know is because I tested the machines in the store when I went to get some printer paper. Maybe its not so bad in actual usage than the demo
 
I hope the start menu doesn't come back, purely to annoy people who want it back for no justifiable reason.

And really, it's not like Windows 9 is going to be much different than Windows 8.1. 8.1 represents about a year of development effort over Windows 8. 9 represents about a year of development effort over 8.1U1, so the differences are going to be similar in scope.
 
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