Zack
99% hot gas
Eh, but you really only have to see the start screen as much as you want to. The desktop looks similar enough to 7, and you can download third-party freeware to bring back the 7 start menu.
Worst verison of Windows?
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Tommy Vercetti
The Don
I did not mind that personally, beats the hell out of having a smart phone OS on a computer.
Sure, that's why I don't consider any Linux desktops as acceptable for consumer use.
Good thing there's nothing that Windows 7 does that Windows 8 can't do.
aimeeandbeatles
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Well I found this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_8
There was actually a lot more removed from Windows 7, includng the Arrange/Stack By option (except in libraries and it's very limited) which I actually use quite a bit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_8
There was actually a lot more removed from Windows 7, includng the Arrange/Stack By option (except in libraries and it's very limited) which I actually use quite a bit.
Tommy Vercetti
The Don
Windows 8 is very user unfriendly. Windows 7 has a far better user interface included with it. I hope Windows 8 fails and so far its sales are doing very poorly, worse then Vista was at this point in time and Vista was a colossal failure. Hopefully Microsoft will abandon the new UI completely or make it optional. Windows 7 is going to be the next XP.
So name a specific thing that the user interface in Windows 7 lets you do better than Windows 8.
Seriously, just name one single thing.
Just one thing, where you aren't doing it wrong in Windows 7 already.
Tommy Vercetti
The Don
Its generally easier to navigate, no pain in the ass Smart Phone style default interface, making the desktop like a cellphone app is ********. Then no start menu, replaced with a start screen which is unwieldy and annoying as hell to use. You have to download third party programs to get a basic feature like the start menu back. These reasons are why I consider Windows 8 to be Windows in name only. I don't care about anything else really. Just the fact they changed the interface and got rid of the start menu. That ruins Windows 8 for me.
I see you still haven't been able to name a single specific thing that Windows 7 is able to do better than Windows 8.
Tommy Vercetti
The Don
I just DID. Windows 7 has a better and simpler to use interface. That is all that really matters to me. Its not a cluttered mess like Windows 8 is with that metro crap.
A user interface isn't a specific thing you can do.
I don't follow. They aren't harder to use then Windows at all. Even Unity is easy, though I'm not a fan of it.
Easily and convenient menu navigation then. Thats a thing you can do.
The typography and especially the iconography is ugly, and the UI is terribly inconsistent - the vast majority of competent designers will agree.
Give me a use case.
I have only used Windows 98, XP, and 7. I'm currently using XP and when I get a new system, it will be kicking and screaming that I will be dragged off to use a newer version of Windows.
I had a problem with Windows 7 hanging when I tried to log off. I couldn't do any of the troubleshooting things the website said to do - because it kept logging off for TWO DAYS STRAIGHT! I took it back to the store (thank goodness Staples lets you try the computers out for 14 days and bring it back if not satisfied).
Now I'm very reluctant to take a chance on another Windows 7 computer. Is Windows 8 particularly difficult for people who have never used a cellphone (and therefore are unused to touch screens)?
I had a problem with Windows 7 hanging when I tried to log off. I couldn't do any of the troubleshooting things the website said to do - because it kept logging off for TWO DAYS STRAIGHT! I took it back to the store (thank goodness Staples lets you try the computers out for 14 days and bring it back if not satisfied).
Now I'm very reluctant to take a chance on another Windows 7 computer. Is Windows 8 particularly difficult for people who have never used a cellphone (and therefore are unused to touch screens)?
sophie
Break My Heart
Sales in OS are dependent on new computer sales and have little to nothing to do with the overall quality (or lack thereof) of the Operating System.
Also everybody hated XP when it first came out too, and Vista was not a failure.
That kicking and screaming may be closer than you think; Microsoft support for XP shuts down in a couple months. Upgrade to 8, you really won't regret it, it's a delightfully fantastic OS.
Tommy Vercetti
The Don
I never heard about this kind of stuff before. Must have been a fluke. I would go with Windows 7 because Windows 8 completely changes the interface.
I still have no clue what you're talking about. Iconography does vary slightly between distros, so you'd have to be more specific, but I've never seen any problems it or with typography. I mostly use kubuntu which if you follow the link, looks pretty slick on default settings. It uses KDE as a desktop environment. Ubuntu, which uses the aforementioned Unity and GNOME looks good too, as that tour shows. Linux Mint Is show here using Xfce.
Of course It's all customizable and there's plenty of themes and setting you can use with some searching.
This is false, and you've shown you can't point out a single thing that Windows 7 does better than Windows 8.
Yeah, Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Mint all look pretty bad, I'm familiar with them. (I presently use Ubuntu and CentOS on a daily basis, but mostly stick to the terminal and use Mac OS for my GUI *nix needs.)
Fixing up the UI of any given desktop environment would be thousands of hours for a good designer - I'm not a good designer and don't have that kind of time to spend working for free. The Windows 8 thread has more specific details about how I find Linux UIs lacking.
Look, from kubuntu's feature tour:
The icons don't look good and have a random mix of gradients and drop shadows.
Half the menu entries randomly don't have any icons.
Menu headings have an awkwardly small amount of padding.
Who knows what the keyboard shortcuts are for any of these things? None of the menu items have any keyboard shortcut listed beside them.
"Red Eye" should be hyphenated as "Red-eye".
"Rotate Left" and "Rotate Right" should be "Rotate 90° CCW" and "Rotate 90° CW", assuming their behavior matches their icons.
Re: Linux things. My kubuntu allows you to delete the taskbar in two clicks (right click taskbar->delete). The only sure way to bring it back, ever, as far as I could find on the internet, was to delete your personal settings completely, so that everything would be default again.
That is bad.
@Tommy: Saying 7 is better because feature X of 7 is better is not really an argument. You should say what makes this feature better, in which situation it performs better.
That is bad.
@Tommy: Saying 7 is better because feature X of 7 is better is not really an argument. You should say what makes this feature better, in which situation it performs better.
According to what I saw in the Microsoft help pages, other people have had this problem, too - of Windows 7 getting stuck in logging off "perpetual spinning its wheel" mode. There were all kinds of instructions and suggestions on what to do. But I couldn't do any of them, since my computer never quit logging off! Some people got back in after 20 minutes, another person after 3 hours... after 48 hours I gave up waiting, and took the damn thing back.
This suggests to me that it's not a fluke.
sophie
Break My Heart
It doesn't. You still get the same desktop you've always had. This is like calling Vista a complete departure from XP because the control panel screen didn't show the individual icons on the screen anymore.
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