Wrong use of "Fascism"

I think what sparks the definition debate is the relationship between a scholarly definition of the term (any of them) and the interpretation of the general public which boils down to "something really bad".

That's what Reindeer Thistle is abusing when he's proposing an internally consistent definition of "fascism" which he only really concocts to characterize things he dislikes as "really bad" to anyone who stands nearby and listens.

It's exactly this behavior that has rendered fascism a completely meaningless term and I can't blame scholars for giving up on trying to salvage the term and abandoning it outright.
Well, that is a valid point, except that either no one read my Dmitrov/ Comintern quote above or this I cites on another thread. I was not calling everything "really bad as fascsim -- and since I read those inane wikipedia definitions.posters put up, I ask for the courtesy of posters and lurkers to read what I am putting forward as a clinical definition of fascism -- from those forces fascism opposed and sought to destroy.


From The Programme of the Communist International 6th Congress, Section II
3. THE CRISIS OF CAPITALISM AND FASCISM
Side by side with social democracy, with whose aid the bourgeoisie suppresses the workers or lulls their class vigilance, stands Fascism.
The epoch of imperialism, the sharpening of the class struggle and the growth of the elements of civil war-particularly after the imperialist war-led to the bankruptcy of parliamentarism. Hence, the adoption of “new” methods and forms of administration (for example, the system of inner cabinets, the formation of oligarchical groups, acting behind the scenes, the deterioration and falsification of the function of “popular representation,” the restriction and annulment of “democratic liberties,” etc.).

Under certain special historical conditions, the progress of this bourgeois, imperialist, reactionary offensive assumes the form of Fascism. These conditions are: instability of capitalist relationships; the existence of considerable de-classed social elements, the pauperisation of broad strata of the urban petty bourgeoisie and of the intelligentsia; discontent among the rural petty-bourgeoisie and, finally, the constant menace of mass proletarian action. In order to stabilise and perpetuate its rule, the bourgeoisie is compelled to an increasing degree to abandon the parliamentary system in favour of the Fascist system, which is independent of inter-party arrangements and combinations. The Fascist system is a system of direct dictatorship, ideologically marked by the “national idea” and by representation of the “professions” (in reality, representation of the various groups of the ruling class). It is a system that resorts to a peculiar form of social demagogy (anti-semitism, occasional sorties against usurers’ capital and gestures of impatience with the parliamentary “talking shop”) in order to utilise the discontent of the petty bourgeois, the intellectuals and other strata of society, and to corruption-the creation of a compact and well paid hierarchy of Fascist units, a party apparatus and a bureaucracy.

At the same time, Fascism strives to permeate the working class by recruiting the most backward strata of workers to its ranks-by playing upon their discontent, by taking advantage of the inaction of social democracy, etc. The principal aim of Fascism is to destroy the revolutionary labour vanguard, i.e., the Communist Sections and leading units of the proletariat. The combination of social democracy, corruption and active white terror, in conjunction with extreme imperialist aggression in the sphere of foreign politics, are the characteristic features of Fascism. In periods of acute crisis for the bourgeoisie, Fascism resorts to anti-capitalist phraseology, but, after it has established itself at the helm of State, it casts aside its anti-capitalist prattle and discloses itself as a terrorist dictatorship of big capital.

The bourgeoisie resorts either to the method of Fascism or to the method of coalition with social democracy according to the changes in the political situation; while social democracy itself, often plays a Fascist role in periods when the situation is critical for capitalism.
 
Here's an idea, rather than playing at being Platonists, we treat Fascism as a roughly contiguous historic process and phenomenon?
 
> complains about nobody paying attention to his "cited definition of fascism"
> disingenuously claims that everybody else's definition of fascism is from wikipedia
 
> complains about nobody paying attention to his "cited definition of fascism"
> disingenuously claims that everybody else's definition of fascism is from wikipedia
>complains about people saying Fascism and Communism are the same thing
>cites definition that encompasses the Soviet Union as well as any other.
 
> complains about nobody paying attention to his "cited definition of fascism"
> disingenuously claims that everybody else's definition of fascism is from wikipedia

The ONLY other cited definition of fascism was from wikipedia, or had you been too busy thinking of pithy one-liners to jab at me to notice.

I am convinced, Marxism is bunk. I am quitting tomorrow, finding a state where it's quiet, like Northern Virginia, and troll until the $7-1/2 million runs out.
 
Nope. He was probably too busy reading the definition I wrote.


Well, Marxism is, by definition, bunk.
Thank you. Enjoy working for the NYPD. I will be seeing you soon.
 
I am convinced, Marxism is bunk. I am quitting tomorrow, finding a state where it's quiet, like Northern Virginia, and troll until the $7-1/2 million runs out.

I don't know about your cooky hippie land where the rules don't apply, but here in the real world Northern Virginia is not a state.

Oh and in case it's not obvious: :p
 
I don't know about your cooky hippie land where the rules don't apply, but here in the real world Northern Virginia is not a state.

Oh and in case it's not obvious: :p
Owen, I'll loan you $5 so you can get a cup of coffee with that BA degree of yours...

And in case it's not obvious... o_O
 
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