dosent particuraley matter to me if its disscussed here, or else where; thier is no argument for your stance; its the bronze age, and socicities are now comming into real blossomign to the point where they can start to question the old rleigious ways. but they arnt quite ready yet, and regardless, greek cutlure is still heavilly religious.
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oh you mean their scared because an atheinian farmer meets a Spartan farmer and the Athenian farmer starts talking about how with this new fangeled mathmatical system he just helped invent, he has an incresed yield of 30% whilst the Spartan farmer, who is illeterate, never mind maths goes "Yer what?" and punches him?
To: Persia
From: Babylon
I have heard that my recent borderclashes with elamites have caused unnecessary war-preparations in your country. I assure you, that we have no intentions to attack you, and we hope that you don't have either. To ensure that there will not be wars between our nations we offer you non-agression pact and trade deal. Both of our nations would profit from this trade route so I hope you are willing to sing this deal.
From: Babylon
I have heard that my recent borderclashes with elamites have caused unnecessary war-preparations in your country. I assure you, that we have no intentions to attack you, and we hope that you don't have either. To ensure that there will not be wars between our nations we offer you non-agression pact and trade deal. Both of our nations would profit from this trade route so I hope you are willing to sing this deal.
Kal'thzar said:
somthing like that. bu tmor elaong the lines of
Athenian- "hey if you irrigate that, it grow better?
SPartan- BS. if I pray to Demeter, she will mak emy crops grow
Athenian- Your a smack-tard, irrigate you damn crops
Spartan- Make me, beyotch
Athenian, all right, that it- its go time!
then they fight each other to the death.
actually, its a bit different then that; that was an extreme example really.
whose playing sparta again? 
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Orders for Kaukasos:
-Officially change the name of the nation to Kingdom of Kaukasos.
-Create (more) ports in our territory along the black sea coast. Eventually these ports will turn into towns when the citizens recognize the trades that go on at these ports and get attracted by it.
-At the same time, encourage the population to settle the area north of the armenians, luring them with tales of endless stretches of fertile grassland (or plains, whatever's there). They will be accompanied by 250 spearman to ensure their safety. Make sure to avoid conflict with the Cimmarians and Cumans. (i'm pretty sure that area there is agricultural...)
-Raise 500 spearman, using some of the Mittani captives/population. Promise them the safety of their family in return, as well as a promise that by serving the kingdom for a certain period they and their family will be accepted as a legal citizen of the kingdom. Use this also to attract any remnant Mittani from the lost campaigns against Assyria and Hatti and accept them into the military.
-Make a (mittani) town along the Euphrates. It's purpose will be to assimilate the remaining Mittani in the area, and cease their dissent. The town will be ruled by a Mittani governor/mayor who is loyal to the kingdom.
-Have the remaining army (including the new recruits) fortify/defend the southern borders against Assyria & Mittani. Make sure they remain in our side of the border to not aggrevate them. If asked, tell the Assyrians they are resting from the recent battle and consolidating the new lands. Do not attack the Mittani anymore, but spread the news of the new town and promises to them.
-To the Armenians, accept those who wishes to join the kingdom with open arms. Try and "share" our culture/religion with them by sending priests to their settlements and spread the teaching/beliefs of the great storm god.
-Spend an eco and start building roads in the nation. Emphasis on connecting the areas deep in land with a town along the coast, since you can travel by boat along the coast anyway.
-EDIT: continue wonder
That's it for now
-Officially change the name of the nation to Kingdom of Kaukasos.
-Create (more) ports in our territory along the black sea coast. Eventually these ports will turn into towns when the citizens recognize the trades that go on at these ports and get attracted by it.
-At the same time, encourage the population to settle the area north of the armenians, luring them with tales of endless stretches of fertile grassland (or plains, whatever's there). They will be accompanied by 250 spearman to ensure their safety. Make sure to avoid conflict with the Cimmarians and Cumans. (i'm pretty sure that area there is agricultural...)
-Raise 500 spearman, using some of the Mittani captives/population. Promise them the safety of their family in return, as well as a promise that by serving the kingdom for a certain period they and their family will be accepted as a legal citizen of the kingdom. Use this also to attract any remnant Mittani from the lost campaigns against Assyria and Hatti and accept them into the military.
-Make a (mittani) town along the Euphrates. It's purpose will be to assimilate the remaining Mittani in the area, and cease their dissent. The town will be ruled by a Mittani governor/mayor who is loyal to the kingdom.
-Have the remaining army (including the new recruits) fortify/defend the southern borders against Assyria & Mittani. Make sure they remain in our side of the border to not aggrevate them. If asked, tell the Assyrians they are resting from the recent battle and consolidating the new lands. Do not attack the Mittani anymore, but spread the news of the new town and promises to them.
-To the Armenians, accept those who wishes to join the kingdom with open arms. Try and "share" our culture/religion with them by sending priests to their settlements and spread the teaching/beliefs of the great storm god.
-Spend an eco and start building roads in the nation. Emphasis on connecting the areas deep in land with a town along the coast, since you can travel by boat along the coast anyway.
-EDIT: continue wonder
That's it for now
Grandmaster
Deity
"All goes well, Your Majesty," said the King's advisor, bowing before his master. "The trade route with Egypt brings much wealth into our lands; where once our spices and incense sat in storehouses awaiting use, now they travel to distant Egypt in exchange for cotton, grains, papyrus, and gold coin. The wealth generated by this mercantile trade is greatly improving the living standard of your great kingdom, Majesty; you were wise in promoting the cultivation of frankincense and myrrh. They shall make your kingdom richer than any the world has ever seen!" The vizier bowed and backed away from the throne.
The King was pleased. His plan had paid off; Saba was growing wealthy off its spices and incense. His other economic and agrarian policies had also worked: water-collection, successful; irrigation, successful; demilitarization, successful. Saba was poised to become a land of great prosperity. But the King realized that one trade route, however lucrative, was not enough. Relying on one route left a kingdom vulnerable to war, natural calamity, and economic decline. More commercial routes were needed, with more nations, to bring more gold and silver flowing into the ports of Saba.
"We enjoy a good relationship with the Egyptians, but surely they are not the only other civilized people in the world. I have heard, as we all have, the rumors of the great Northern Kingdom... but such a country has proved elusive, too far beyond the fiery desert. I ask you, vizier, what other people's are there with whom we can trade? What lies, for instance, beyond the eastern desert, or the Sea?"
"Well, sire, beyond the eastern desert lies the edge of the world, where the Gods dwell. I do not suppose it is wise to try to sell incense to the Gods. Beyond the Sea, though, are peoples who are said to rival the Egyptians in wisdom, wealth, and civilization; people of dark skin, who speak a strange foreign tongue. Axumites, I think they are called, after the city in which they dwell. There is also another kingdom, I believe it is called Punt, which is similar to these Axumites, but farther east. They too are said to be highly civilized. There is danger, though; between these two kingdoms dwell barbarian nomads, like the bedouin of the desert, with whom trade would be unwise."
"Well, then we shall avoid these nomads. Arrange for emissaries to travel to the courts of Axum and Punt. I wish to establish formalized trading relationships with these kingdoms, to further enrich our country and lessen our dependence on the Egyptian trade."
To Axum, Punt:
Hail, black-skinned men beyond the Sea! I, the King of Saba, greet you. With my emissaries I have sent gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh, which I believe you will find pleasing. This is just a small example of the wealth which we possess in Saba, and of the luxury goods which could be flowing through your own lands and enriching your lives. We wish to establish trade routes with your fair kingdoms, that we might profit together. We have incense, spices, and other luxuries in abundance, which could be yours in exchange for the products of your own lands. What do you say, foreign Kings?
Saba Orders:
-Expand northwest into the Hejaz
-Expand east along the Yemenese coast; attempt to convince the town in western Oman to join the Kingdom of Saba by informing them of the wealth, power, culture, high-living-standard, advanced agriculture, and other benefits of the Kingdom. If they refuse, no hard feelings, just give them some nice gifts and stop expanding in that direction, allowing them their independence if they want it. Make it clear to them from the beginning that that is what we will do if they don't join us.
-Continue the irrigation and rain-collection program throughout the Kingdom; especially concentrate on bringing this development to newly-occupied lands
-Give some nice gifts of gold, frankincense, myrrh, and local spices to the Kings and nobility of Axum and Punt
-Grow economy by further developing the incense and spice trades, and through increasingly well-developed agriculture
The King was pleased. His plan had paid off; Saba was growing wealthy off its spices and incense. His other economic and agrarian policies had also worked: water-collection, successful; irrigation, successful; demilitarization, successful. Saba was poised to become a land of great prosperity. But the King realized that one trade route, however lucrative, was not enough. Relying on one route left a kingdom vulnerable to war, natural calamity, and economic decline. More commercial routes were needed, with more nations, to bring more gold and silver flowing into the ports of Saba.
"We enjoy a good relationship with the Egyptians, but surely they are not the only other civilized people in the world. I have heard, as we all have, the rumors of the great Northern Kingdom... but such a country has proved elusive, too far beyond the fiery desert. I ask you, vizier, what other people's are there with whom we can trade? What lies, for instance, beyond the eastern desert, or the Sea?"
"Well, sire, beyond the eastern desert lies the edge of the world, where the Gods dwell. I do not suppose it is wise to try to sell incense to the Gods. Beyond the Sea, though, are peoples who are said to rival the Egyptians in wisdom, wealth, and civilization; people of dark skin, who speak a strange foreign tongue. Axumites, I think they are called, after the city in which they dwell. There is also another kingdom, I believe it is called Punt, which is similar to these Axumites, but farther east. They too are said to be highly civilized. There is danger, though; between these two kingdoms dwell barbarian nomads, like the bedouin of the desert, with whom trade would be unwise."
"Well, then we shall avoid these nomads. Arrange for emissaries to travel to the courts of Axum and Punt. I wish to establish formalized trading relationships with these kingdoms, to further enrich our country and lessen our dependence on the Egyptian trade."
To Axum, Punt:
Hail, black-skinned men beyond the Sea! I, the King of Saba, greet you. With my emissaries I have sent gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh, which I believe you will find pleasing. This is just a small example of the wealth which we possess in Saba, and of the luxury goods which could be flowing through your own lands and enriching your lives. We wish to establish trade routes with your fair kingdoms, that we might profit together. We have incense, spices, and other luxuries in abundance, which could be yours in exchange for the products of your own lands. What do you say, foreign Kings?
Saba Orders:
-Expand northwest into the Hejaz
-Expand east along the Yemenese coast; attempt to convince the town in western Oman to join the Kingdom of Saba by informing them of the wealth, power, culture, high-living-standard, advanced agriculture, and other benefits of the Kingdom. If they refuse, no hard feelings, just give them some nice gifts and stop expanding in that direction, allowing them their independence if they want it. Make it clear to them from the beginning that that is what we will do if they don't join us.
-Continue the irrigation and rain-collection program throughout the Kingdom; especially concentrate on bringing this development to newly-occupied lands
-Give some nice gifts of gold, frankincense, myrrh, and local spices to the Kings and nobility of Axum and Punt
-Grow economy by further developing the incense and spice trades, and through increasingly well-developed agriculture
