Zimbabwe going back in time

[Bronx Warlord]

I'd have to sum my feelings up like this

Who gives a ****

 

[blackheart]

You laugh now, but when your hair falls out...

 

[Stylesjl]

What can i say? I am really speechless

 

[Tycoon101]

I feel sorry for them. It's interesting that they recognise a cult practise as legal. Witchcraft is a basis for some murders in I'm not mistaken. Do I need a link, or will someone provide one?

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Witchcraft is a basis for some murders in I'm not mistaken. Do I need a link, or will someone provide one?

Monotheism is a basis for some murders if I'm not mistaken...

 

[Winner]

Depends. If they are not American you better up that number considerably.

I think it can be safely assumed that UK soldiers aren't Americans.

Anyway, the former colonial powers often keep peace and order in their former colonies. Without hated France, pretty much whole of Western Africa would be in ruins (ok, I know it is in ruins already, but I mean it would be much worse).

If Britons did the same, Africa would be more stable. Unfortunately, the Queen would lost her prestige in Commonwealth, so they usually stay out of the mess

Zimbabwe should have been invaded years ago, when Mugabe started his racist campaign against whites. Unfortunately, all PC intelectuals would consider that an obvious racist attack on Africans, so nothing serious happened.

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

Depends. If they are not American you better up that number considerably.

Nah, the limeys know the country better.

And 5th generation white Africans are Africans too. The same as all those white North Americans are Americans. Brutalizing this community is wrong.

 

[Winner]

Nah, the limeys know the country better.

And 5th generation white Africans are Africans too. The same as all those white North Americans are Americans. Brutalizing this community is wrong.

They're Africans no more.

 

[Evil Tyrant]

I got and idea! Instead of invading Zimbabwe to get rid of Mugabe, why don't we just make a wax figure of him and stick some needles through it's heart? That should solve the problem.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

And, did I say that? Because, yes, I think the 2 countries are exactly alike.

And, yes, I did read the article. I'm not sure how much of the US you've seen or lived in, but I've met plenty of Americans who have say all the same types of things that that article is saying, only in the US its couched in the language and practice of Christianity, for the most part. Maybe its not as widespread, but it exists.

For example: Jon Edwards will speak to your dead relatives. Scientology is legal. Benny Hin. Snakehandling. Psychics. Etc... its all "voodoo" or "magic" or whatever you want to call it. Now, the practioneers may have different motives, but the excerise is about the same.

If you disagree, fine, but don't post bs false assumptions. It seems you're the one reaching for hyperbole, not me.

I cant be reaching for hyperbole, because Im not even sure what hyperbole is. If I overreacted, sorry, but explain to me why an article about an African country offcially recognizing witchcraft as being real, immediately prompts you and many others to compare that with the US. Yes, there all sorts of religious people in this country who believe all sorts of wacky stuff, but what does that have to do with the subject of the article? There is no relation whatsoever except that Voodoo is a religion, yes, and Christianity is a religion, yes. Thats it. Tell me, in America, can I take someone to court because I believe they put a hex on me, or came to me at night in the form of a succubus? Dont tell me about 400 years ago, Im talking about today. This is a terrible thing for the people of Zimbabwe, why do you guys dismiss it? Because its verboten to criticize black people? Is it PC nuttiness? Explain it to me. A county in Georgia decides to teach Creationism, and fifty threads spring up and everyone is denouncing the United States. The government of Zimbabwe declares that witchcraft is real, and everyone just yawns. "Oh well, theyre just silly black people, we dont expect any better from them." Is that why?

 

[Eukaryote]

Well, there are people in some "civilized" countries believing that some guy divided the Red sea into two parts using a stick, others that a virgin gave birth to the son of a guy they worship and call God, and some others that their "hero" have a kind of horse traveling at the light's speed who brought him to the God mentioned above. And countless believe that Jupiter and Saturn have a significant impact on their love affairs

This could be considered flaming.

 

[The Last Conformist]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but there will be no foreign intervention in Zimbabwe until and unless South Africa wants it.

 

[HannibalBarka]

I cant be reaching for hyperbole, because Im not even sure what hyperbole is. If I overreacted, sorry, but explain to me why an article about an African country offcially recognizing witchcraft as being real, immediately prompts you and many others to compare that with the US. Yes, there all sorts of religious people in this country who believe all sorts of wacky stuff, but what does that have to do with the subject of the article? There is no relation whatsoever except that Voodoo is a religion, yes, and Christianity is a religion, yes. Thats it. Tell me, in America, can I take someone to court because I believe they put a hex on me, or came to me at night in the form of a succubus? Dont tell me about 400 years ago, Im talking about today. This is a terrible thing for the people of Zimbabwe, why do you guys dismiss it? Because its verboten to criticize black people? Is it PC nuttiness? Explain it to me. A county in Georgia decides to teach Creationism, and fifty threads spring up and everyone is denouncing the United States. The government of Zimbabwe declares that witchcraft is real, and everyone just yawns. "Oh well, theyre just silly black people, we dont expect any better from them." Is that why?

Since I am among the ones who "compared that with the US", although my comparison was with the 3 monotheistic religions and Astrology, so not just the USA.
I agree with you it is bad news for Zimbabwe; although I truly don't think it is that a big deal as long as it stays at the "folkloric" level; just like mainstream belief is OK and extremism is not in other countries (and not only the US )

 

[Samson]

I cant be reaching for hyperbole, because Im not even sure what hyperbole is. If I overreacted, sorry, but explain to me why an article about an African country offcially recognizing witchcraft as being real, immediately prompts you and many others to compare that with the US. Yes, there all sorts of religious people in this country who believe all sorts of wacky stuff, but what does that have to do with the subject of the article? There is no relation whatsoever except that Voodoo is a religion, yes, and Christianity is a religion, yes. Thats it. Tell me, in America, can I take someone to court because I believe they put a hex on me, or came to me at night in the form of a succubus? Dont tell me about 400 years ago, Im talking about today. This is a terrible thing for the people of Zimbabwe, why do you guys dismiss it? Because its verboten to criticize black people? Is it PC nuttiness? Explain it to me. A county in Georgia decides to teach Creationism, and fifty threads spring up and everyone is denouncing the United States. The government of Zimbabwe declares that witchcraft is real, and everyone just yawns. "Oh well, theyre just silly black people, we dont expect any better from them." Is that why?

I am not quite sure what you are getting at here. They are changing the law from "all witchcraft is illegal" to "only witchcraft aimed at harming people is illegal". It sounds to me like a small step towards freedom of religion.

 

[blackheart]

Zimbabwe should have been invaded years ago, when Mugabe started his racist campaign against whites. Unfortunately, all PC intelectuals would consider that an obvious racist attack on Africans, so nothing serious happened.

Only step in when whites are in danger? What about the apartheid regime in South Africa then, or is saving whites your only objective?

 

[.Shane.]

This is a terrible thing for the people of Zimbabwe, why do you guys dismiss it? Because its verboten to criticize black people? Is it PC nuttiness? Explain it to me. A county in Georgia decides to teach Creationism, and fifty threads spring up and everyone is denouncing the United States. The government of Zimbabwe declares that witchcraft is real, and everyone just yawns. "Oh well, theyre just silly black people, we dont expect any better from them." Is that why?

This is too insulting to even bother replying to. I'm done with this thread. Thanks for the insights into your personality and how you deal w/ people who posts things that A. you don't understand or B. don't like.

You could've simply asked me to elaborate, but instead, you gotta post all this crap. I'm done with this thread.

 

[Winner]

Only step in when whites are in danger? What about the apartheid regime in South Africa then, or is saving whites your only objective?

Nice try, but way off the track.

In fact, the expulsion of white farmers was almost welcomed by many people as something like "retribution" for they many sins. Like they deserved it or what. It was a nice a nice example of racism against the whites, which is no better than racism against the blacks. From some reason, it never gets much attention, because we all know that "racism" is white invention, don't we?

South Africa argument maybe has some weight, but there was simply nothing more the rest of the world could do. They were too strong. Mugabe, on the other hand, is simply an old dictator who can be toppled with two helicopters and few dozens soldiers. His regime has ruined Zimbabwe and you can guess who will they ask for help, once he finally goes to hell? Those evil whites they expelled.

 

[Sidhe]

I don't have a problem with African animist religions, I don't know why anyone would, it's not like it's there state religion anyway, or that everyone is going to turn to the dark side regardless of the law, besides most people equate witchcraft with evil and this is simply not the case, the whole idea of African religions is to protect the society from evil spirits, like all religions it can be used for ill but not in any greater way than any other religion.

If you wonder why the yawns are flowing it's because African mysticism is an inherent part of their culture, like Indians in south America they embrace the new faith but they intermingle it with there old one, so why is this a problem here? Voodoo and christianity is another example of the mingling of faiths, where's the Beef exactly what are you afraid of, perhaps people should learn a bit about the religion before they decide it is satanism in another form, it isn't? I have no idea the exact from the religion takes in this case, but if it's anything like other forms of aboriginal worship in Africa, I'd hardly lose sleep over it.

 

[GinandTonic]

A man stole betwiched cement and it set him to the floor?

Note to thief - If you go out on the rob in rainy season dont pause of a nap on the way home leaning on the stolen cement. You could try magic, but not being a total ejit might be your first port of call.

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[El_Machinae]

I'm missing all the good discussion, but I find it hilarious that using magic to hurt someone is still illegal there. That's priceless.