2009 NFL Draft talk thread

I know these mock drafts are a joke, but its a little uplifting to think that Percy Harvin is projected to go to the Colts! What a great addition that could be if somehow he slips that low!!! I'd be shocked if we ended up with him though...
 
I think Ray Ray would consider going back at a discount, but who knows...he might see it as a slight to his pride. Bart Scott should be smart and look at what has happened to Baltimore players in other places. With the possible exception of Adalius Thomas (who was plugged into another great defensive system), they have been flops.

I agree but the new Jets coach might want them REAL bad, and might have a little pull with them.
 
I didn't consider the Rex connection. I think the Jets are way over the cap though, if I'm correct, but I'm not sure if this will change with a Favre retirement. I'm also not sure if Ray or Scott or Suggs would go to a Jets team without a competent starter (if Favre retires). They waited most of their careers for a Flacco to finally show up in Baltimore.
 
I f they only still had the type of dominating rb Jamal Lewis was they'd be set. Too bad they let chester taylor go.

I think Rice and McClain will make a pretty good RB tandum, plus they still McGahee (though he had a bad year). :scan:
 
This thread has fallen down a bit but the draft is drawing closer so I figured I'd pull it back up.

I get the strong feeling from Detroit that they are planning on taking either Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe with that first pick and then targeting a DT with either the 20th pick or the top pick in the second round.
 
This thread has fallen down a bit but the draft is drawing closer so I figured I'd pull it back up.

I get the strong feeling from Detroit that they are planning on taking either Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe with that first pick and then targeting a DT with either the 20th pick or the top pick in the second round.

Are they looking qb or not? :scan:
 
Maybe the Cutler 'problem' will make for an extra-exciting draft, with some big moves.
 
Are they looking qb or not? :scan:

The Lions know they need to upgrade the quarterback position, and they sure as heck would love to get their hands on Cutler. But all indications from the Lions have been that they will be building through the lines first.

I seriously doubt the Broncos trade Cutler. The whole situation just cries of Cutler wanting a new contract.
 
how are players forced to take part in the draft?
why cant they just let themselves get picked in free agency by the team that wants them and they want to be on?
 
It is to prevent bidding wars for expensive bidding wars for young talent and ensures that no one team can sign contracts with all of the best young players and make the league uncompetitive. To encourage parity, teams that do poorly in the previous season usually get to choose first in the postseason draft.
 
It is to prevent bidding wars for expensive bidding wars for young talent and ensures that no one team can sign contracts with all of the best young players and make the league uncompetitive. To encourage parity, teams that do poorly in the previous season usually get to choose first in the postseason draft.

i know that and understand the thought behind it. just how exactly are players forced to enter the draft and not free agency?
 
That's negotiated in the collective-bargaining agreement between the league and the labor union representing the players. It's also why after a few seasons players are able to become free agents and sign with any team.
 
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LIONS COMMENCE NEGOTIATIONS FOR NO. 1 PICK
Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2009, 7:30 p.m. EDT
The Detroit Lions hold the first overall pick in the draft. And they have the ability, if they so choose, to sign the player to a contract in advance of the draft.

According to Tom Kowalski of Mlive.com, the Lions have commenced the process of negotiating a contract with “their first-round draft pick.”

The player has yet to be identified.

Though the early portions of the report from Kowalski imply that the Lions are talking to only one player, quotes in the story suggest that the Lions plan to expand the process.

“We have to have robust dialogue with the agents of the players we’re interested in,” Lions president Tom Lewand said. “We’ve started that process and we’ve made it very clear to all of them that we have to have that as this month draws to a close.”

Consequently, we must break from our recent habit of bashing the Lions and applaud them.

The Lions should be talking to multiple players, if for no reason other than to leverage their actual favorite into taking a lower deal. If, along the way, their second choice is willing to take a much lower contract, then the Lions might decide to take that guy, instead.

“We won’t put a timetable on it,” Lewand said. “From our standpoint, it’s whenever everything that needs to come together, comes together. There’s no timetable one way or the other. If we make the decision and [G.M.] Martin [Mayhew] and [coach] Jim [Schwartz] and everybody else is comfortable with it and we can come to a contract with the guy, there’s no reason we can’t do that tomorrow. If we can’t — and any one of those pieces isn’t in place — and it doesn’t get done until the night before the draft, that’s fine, too.

“Whenever the muffin rises above the tin, it’s time to eat.”

OK, that last part was stupid. But we otherwise agree completely with everything Lewand is saying.


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LIONS ALREADY HAVE SETTLED ON SMITH?
Posted by Mike Florio on March 22, 2009, 11:14 p.m.
Amid comments from Lions president Tom Lewand indicating that the team will talk to multiple possible candidates for the No. 1 overall pick in the draft before making a final decision, the folks at KFFL are reporting, with Salisbury-esque certainty, that Baylor tackle Jason Smith will be the pick.

There’s no ambiguity in the one-sentence report: “KFFL has learned the Detroit Lions will take Baylor OT Jason Smith with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.”

If the Lions already have made that decision, and if Smith is the only person with whom they plan to negotiate, then the Lions deserve to go 0-16 for sixteen more years.

Frankly, we don’t think that even the Lions are quite that stupid. Our guess is that someone at KFFL has at best caught wind of the fact that the Lions are negotiating with Smith’s agent.

But this hardly means that Smith is the pick.

Said Lewand: “We have to have robust dialogue with the agents of the players we’re interested in. We’ve started that process and we’ve made it very clear to all of them that we have to have that as this month draws to a close.”

That said, maybe Smith ultimately will be the guy. Based on Lewand’s comments, we’d be shocked if that decision already has been made.

If the Lions do go Smith instead of Stafford, that would have a huge echo effect on the rest of the draft. Especially if the Rams don't like Monroe enough to draft him at #2.
 
I wouldn't draft Stafford #1, I've seen him play enough to realize that although he has all the skills... he seems to find a way to 'not win' the big games.
 
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If the Lions do go Smith instead of Stafford, that would have a huge echo effect on the rest of the draft. Especially if the Rams don't like Monroe enough to draft him at #2.

Smith looks like he'll be the pick. The Rams on the other hand look like they are deciding between Aaron Curry and Eugene Monroe (& Jason Smith if he's not the pick). It's widely assumed that the Rams would take the best available tackle, BUT they are really high on Curry and he could very well be the pick there.

I wouldn't draft Stafford #1, I've seen him play enough to realize that although he has all the skills... he seems to find a way to 'not win' the big games.

If the Lions don't take Stafford, he could fall, very hard in this draft. The Rams and Chiefs will almost certainly pass on him and the Seahawks might also if one of the top two tackles (Monroe or Smith) is still on the board. Cleveland already has both Anderson and Quinn; Cincy has Palmer, Oakland has Russell, Jax has Gerard, GB has Rodgers, then there is SF at 10 who would have to consider Stafford if he's there. Of course if he does fall, there probably would be some team in the teens ready to move up a few spots to nab him, but there is no guarantee that that happens, just look at what happened to Quinn and also Aaron Rodgers on draft day.
 
dgfred said:
I wouldn't draft Stafford #1, I've seen him play enough to realize that although he has all the skills... he seems to find a way to 'not win' the big games.

You're right that nothing Stafford has done in college merits drafting him even in the first round, but college performance is basically a wash in scouts' eyes, just look at Tom Brady versus Crouch.

Smith looks like he'll be the pick. The Rams on the other hand look like they are deciding between Aaron Curry and Eugene Monroe (& Jason Smith if he's not the pick). It's widely assumed that the Rams would take the best available tackle, BUT they are really high on Curry and he could very well be the pick there.



If the Lions don't take Stafford, he could fall, very hard in this draft. The Rams and Chiefs will almost certainly pass on him and the Seahawks might also if one of the top two tackles (Monroe or Smith) is still on the board. Cleveland already has both Anderson and Quinn; Cincy has Palmer, Oakland has Russell, Jax has Gerard, GB has Rodgers, then there is SF at 10 who would have to consider Stafford if he's there. Of course if he does fall, there probably would be some team in the teens ready to move up a few spots to nab him, but there is no guarantee that that happens, just look at what happened to Quinn and also Aaron Rodgers on draft day.

The Rams do like Curry a lot, and he is more intriguing in fans' eyes than Jason Smith. The top of the board all have noticeable flaws this season:
Jason Smith - Who has heard of him before this season? Converted TE? How raw is he at the position to justify taking him no 1?
Eugene Monroe - Knee Problems (Possible Red Flag, etc)
Matt Stafford - College Performance
Aaron Curry - Not really a flaw, but do you draft a SLB that high? Or draft him as a MLB and pray that he makes the switch?
The Rams have even thrown up signals that they're intrigued by Crabtree or Maclin (local kid) but those are pretty much smoke screens in my eyes.

How committed are the Jags to Garrard? He didn't have the greatest of seasons last year. Other teams that could want to draft a QB later in the board are Jets, Broncos, Bucs, quite a few.
 
Then there's the Bears, who should be looking at a QB, but apparently won't.
 
Then there's the Bears, who should be looking at a QB, but apparently won't.

They're just waiting for next year when they can draft Tim Tebow - the new Bobby Douglass. :lol:
 
I watched alot of Wake games... of course ;) . And although I love Curry as a player, A.Smith(cb) actually made more plays on defense for them. If I had to choose between
a franchise LT and a gifted (but small) LB... I would choose the former.
 
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