3rd and 4th Unique Components for VP - Official thread 88.10

[Minh Le]

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The Carthage Tophet works perfectly in my game. I got the floaty text and everything.

Wow, its weird. I didnt have culture nor notification like that. Im sure I have the lastest VP and 3/4 UC version.

 

[pineappledan]

Hmm... did you disable events? Some of the stuff in 4UC requires the event system. I don’t think the gopher is one of them, but it does use lua hooks that were added in CBP

 

[Minh Le]

Hmm... did you disable events? Some of the stuff in 4UC requires the event system. I don’t think the gopher is one of them, but it does use lua hooks that were added in CBP

Oh right, I always disable event ...

 

[Guynemer]

You're better off enabling the event system, but then disabling all the individual types of events in the game setup

 

[Minh Le]

Thanks. I will try it later

 

[Enrico Swagolo]

But I've played Carthage with events turned off (like always) and it worked properly? Bought Quinquireme, got Culture, bought Missionary, got Culture. That was a few versions ago, though. Maybe it was touched.

 

[pineappledan]

v 43. Here ya go!
Changelog:

v43:
-Compatibility:
    - White Tower now replaced with Steam Mill. No change from the original VP design for now.
-BugFix:
    - Waag gold to customs houses and caravansaries works properly

 

[Kim Dong Un]

But I've played Carthage with events turned off (like always) and it worked properly? Bought Quinquireme, got Culture, bought Missionary, got Culture. That was a few versions ago, though. Maybe it was touched.

Same, everything worked fine with events off, except the GG/GA was buggy.

White Tower now replaced with Steam Mill. No change from the original VP design for now.

You've blessed us with a quick update, but I wanted to try the new England! Ahh, I don't know if I can justify playing her now when she still has that underwhelming Steam Mill. What a dilemma.

 

[pineappledan]

@HungryForFood has intimated that he might start work on a major alteration of the Steam Mill for his Victoria for CBP mod.

If he completes work on that bonus, whatever it may be, I would be inclined towards just matching it in 4UC. Until he has a more firm idea for the new bonuses I will sit tight, but he suggested he might try to make a new DLL table which gives constant yields in the city for every TR in/out of the city.

More specifically, he was contemplating +2 for every TR in/out of the city

 

[Enrico Swagolo]

Isn't that exactly the same as what it currently is with the weird Gold per trade route bonuses, except with Production instead of Gold? I think that'd still be unappealing.

 

[Kim Dong Un]

@HungryForFood has intimated that he might start work on a major alteration of the Steam Mill for his Victoria for CBP mod.

If he completes work on that bonus, whatever it may be, I would be inclined towards just matching it in 4UC. Until he has a more firm idea for the new bonuses I will sit tight, but he suggested he might try to make a new DLL table which gives constant yields in the city for every TR in/out of the city.

More specifically, he was contemplating +2 for every TR in/out of the city

Sounds good, there's really no rush. I've got 40 other civs to try since finally committing to 4UC, and I can't play without it now, so Lizzy will have to wait hehehe.

 

[pineappledan]

Isn't that exactly the same as what it currently is with the weird Gold per trade route bonuses, except with Production instead of Gold? I think that'd still be unappealing.

It would be both gold and production

 

[Enrico Swagolo]

It would be both gold and production

I think it's too much emphasis on trade routes and it wouldn't really change much. How many trade routes can you even have in industrial era, how many of the statecraft, petra, colossus and sea WC resolution with the wonder did you get? This seems pretty boring, by that point those yields are going to be hard to spot. I could see something like "originate all TRs to capital/send them out of it to get a slight help with wonders" as this way it'd be a noticeable 20~ Prod there, but it's not convincing. Better than what it is now, but if it was given on top of a slight base yield increase, it'd be fine I guess.

 

[pineappledan]

Well it's all speculative right now. I'd recommend you take this up with Hungry over in the Britain thread since, as I said, I won't be making the decision on this.

 

[adan_eslavo]

What about new version release? Some significant changes were made in VP. v42 @pineappledan?

 

[pineappledan]

What about new version release? Some significant changes were made in VP. v42 @pineappledan?

I made the necessary changes on github and posted a zip file above. You can either build a new version, or simply re-upload the one I already made

 

[adan_eslavo]

I will clean changelog and release it soon.

 

[adan_eslavo]

Found errors to resolve:

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[5541.015] Invalid Reference on Buildings.Description - "TXT_KEY_BUILDING_D_FOR_TOWER" does not exist in Language_en_US

 

[Enrico Swagolo]

Well it's all speculative right now. I'd recommend you take this up with Hungry over in the Britain thread since, as I said, I won't be making the decision on this.

I've checked that thread, and that civ has bonus trade routes that are stronger. Potentially tons more TRs, so in that environment it does make sense. England doesn't get any, so it'd make no sense for me to tell him to change his stuff because Steam Mill that might be fine for Britain as she'll have 4-5 more TRs by this point won't work here as well for Lizardbeth without those TRs.

 

[pineappledan]

Oops. I forgot to delete the dummy building for white tower. I'm fixed that now

I can't find that ',' syntax error...