3rd and 4th Unique Components for VP - Official thread 88.10

[Guynemer]

Correct if I am wrong, but I believe ships inside a city receive a massive MALUS to combat, not a bonus, representing them being immobile while at dock.

 

[pineappledan]

The constant CS nerfs to field gun/cannon have missed the G Bombard. I will reduce their RCS to 40 (+1 from field gun).
Besides that, they both have the malus vs ships; there is no material difference in how damage should be calculated between a field gun and a G Bombard, so I'm not sure what is happening. Sorry

 

[ridjack]

Guess I'll have to keep Ottomans disabled for the time being, then.

 

[Edaka]

I think that's due to the fact that garrisoned units simply share a part of the city damage. Could this be the case where the G. Bombard dealt like 300+ damage to the city?

 

[pineappledan]

G bombards deal extreme damage to cities, so if the unit was garrisoned in a city that's probably it. G Bombards have a special siege II promotion which gives +200% vs cities, instead of the standard +100%

 

[Bhawb]

If the unit is in a city that's the issue. G Bombards more or less two shot cities; they have Volley, ultra-Siege, and then a couple of extra promotions on top. That sounds pretty close to what I was experiencing playing the Ottomans a while back.

 

[phantomaxl1207]

Great Bombards simply devastate Cities. If the City doesn't have 60+ CS, it won't last vs Great Bombards.

 

[Dolen]

Yep, for example, the city has 100HP and the bombard has dealt 300 damage, the unit inside the city takes 200 damage which is kinda insane lol

 

[Jiggly]

does the version 50 update now play nice with the new 8-31 vox beta? It was crashing me last week

 

[pineappledan]

I have made no changes. The instability is an issue with the dll and new lua hooks introduced by the CPP. I have no control over those.

Code optimization/adjustment in the CPP has made this modmod currently inoperable. You’ll have to wait for a new base VP version and see if the issues are resolved

 

[KittyKat3120]

Just wondering, which civs are causing the trouble so I know which one to avoid...

 

[pineappledan]

Inca, Rome and Songhai for sure

 

[Padre19]

With new version 9-9 is Ok ?

 

[Ziad]

Is there still an issue with the mod?

 

[Edaka]

The Inca still crash the game early on with the 9/9 version.

 

[Don Gwydion]

Can confirm what @ridjack and @Edaka said (on v50 and the 9/9 beta) -- adding a Qullqa manually to an Incan city via IGE works fine, but letting the city finish it organically leads to a CTD

 

[KittyKat3120]

Rome and Songhai for sure

How about Rome and Songhai as stated by Dan?

 

[Don Gwydion]

I didn't get a chance to test Rome or Songhai yet. Will see if I can spin up a game in a bit and give Rome some incentive to build Latifundia. Rome I get with the Lat providing Olives, but I must be missing why Songhai would be an issue-- since from what I can tell, their 3/4UC stuff gives bonuses for specific resources, but doesn't give resources themselves. Is it the bonus targeting AND creation of specific resources in 3/4UC that's not playing nice with base VP?

 

[pineappledan]

One of the possibly several issues introduced into the lua is the comment to setImprovement(). Rome’s latifundium sets a plantation improvement on an adjacent tile, both the qullqa and the gumey set improvements beneath the city tile in order to provide their bonuses

 

[Don Gwydion]

Gotcha, thanks dan. I personally have never played Songhai so I was struggling to understand what put them in the same boat as Rome and the Inca. Hopefully we can get this run up the flag pole to G in time for the next stable release as 3/4UC has become indispensable to a decent number of us and how we play VP