4,99$ For Babylon

[Krall]

The NDA is still in effect after release? I have never run into that in the games I beta tested, is this something new?

 

[Guardian_PL]

The NDA is still in effect after release? I have never run into that in the games I beta tested, is this something new?

Hint, hint - they haven't finished making this game, we're in open public beta stage now, give them some time

 

[Valkrionn]

The NDA is still in effect after release? I have never run into that in the games I beta tested, is this something new?

We still contribute to it, and test the early versions of patches/dlc/eventual expansions.

This is why I said with extreme confidence that DLC will never be made up of material required to play the game (as in, no bug fixes, no new mechanics, just new content); I know what is being developed as DLC.

The job the testers had did not end with release.

Hint, hint - they haven't finished making this game, we're in open public beta stage now, give them some time

Sure, if you count anything before a final expansion a public beta.

Civ5 is not anywhere near a 'beta'. You want a game that released a beta under the name of a finished game, go look at Elemental.

Civ5 has it's issues, and I will not deny that. However, in my opinion at least, it is already a better game than Civ4. It simply lacks the polish that Civ4 possessed... And that polish WILL come, Civ4 did not have it until BtS was released.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Finally someone with a brain! (Valkrionn) I think Civ V is great, I think we should be happy for what we have.

 

[Humakty]

Yeah, Elemental is the real scandal of the year, no luck boys !

Hum, I bought it.... And I swear it's rather alpha : most features are indeed going to change !

Simple stats : I played 19 hours civ 5 and 6 hours elemental

=> you clearly see who's the winner : civ 2

 

[Guardian_PL]

We still contribute to it, and test the early versions of patches/dlc/eventual expansions.

This is why I said with extreme confidence that DLC will never be made up of material required to play the game (as in, no bug fixes, no new mechanics, just new content); I know what is being developed as DLC. Hell, I know most of what will be in the first expansion.

The job the testers had did not end with release.

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Did you just say "Expansion"? As in, not a DLC with one civ, but stuff similar to BTS for Civ4? Wow. I'd be interested in that

What can I say - I'm a civfanatic...

 

[Crezth]

Sure, if you count anything before a final expansion a public beta.

Civ5 is not anywhere near a 'beta'. You want a game that released a beta under the name of a finished game, go look at Elemental.

Civ5 has it's issues, and I will not deny that. However, in my opinion at least, it is already a better game than Civ4. It simply lacks the polish that Civ4 possessed... And that polish WILL come, Civ4 did not have it until BtS was released.

Listen to this gentleman. He knows.

 

[Valkrionn]

Glad to see some people agree with me.

This is what I am going to school for, so I would hope I have at least some idea of what I'm talking about.

 

[Revoran]

You'll all be glad to know the Babylon DLC doesn't cost $4.99 USD!

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It costs $5.99 - i'll be buying my appropriately priced DLC and kickin' it with Nebuchadnezzar.

 

[Valkrionn]

No, costs $4.99. Seeing as it's already in the store at that price, quite sure it's staying that way.

 

[Ravellion]

Did not read the thread, but Babylon's €3.49! Great! Finally a company that takes into account currency exchange rates, instead of just replacing the dollar sign with a euro sign.

 

[JLoZeppeli]

We still contribute to it, and test the early versions of patches/dlc/eventual expansions.

This is why I said with extreme confidence that DLC will never be made up of material required to play the game (as in, no bug fixes, no new mechanics, just new content); I know what is being developed as DLC. Hell, I know most of what will be in the first expansion.

The job the testers had did not end with release.



Sure, if you count anything before a final expansion a public beta.

Civ5 is not anywhere near a 'beta'. You want a game that released a beta under the name of a finished game, go look at Elemental.

Civ5 has it's issues, and I will not deny that. However, in my opinion at least, it is already a better game than Civ4. It simply lacks the polish that Civ4 possessed... And that polish WILL come, Civ4 did not have it until BtS was released.

So we have to wait an expansion? Thanks i'll stick with IV then... By the way, is a Civilization not playable in multi worth 5$ in your fair and honest opinion? Because Mongols are not playable, so Babylon (5$) ad i think also the upcoming will be the same, if they don't work on the multi side of the game....

 

[chris3418]

No, you quit whining. Five bucks IS a lot for one CIV in an unfinished game.

And pointing to another over-priced thing hardly makes an argument.

If $5 is too expensive, then don't buy it! Maybe you should consider a career change! I'd pay $15 to put Hatshepsut in CIV V!

 

[Aeneas7777777]

No, you quit whining. Five bucks IS a lot for one CIV in an unfinished game.

And pointing to another over-priced thing hardly makes an argument.

..Guys.... Really? $5? Jesus.. How about leave your weekly Ice Cream+Movie Day, and get the DLC... Honestly... It's really not that much... I'm sure you all have a spare $5. My 9 year old cousin probably has more than that in his room...
Think about it for a sec. $5. It's a little funny... Really take a moment you consider this...

$5​

 

[nokmirt]

No, you quit whining. Five bucks IS a lot for one CIV in an unfinished game.

And pointing to another over-priced thing hardly makes an argument.

Yes I agree, because civ series never had dlc's. What comes out for this series should be free.

 

[Aeneas7777777]

That blindly assumes that the devs don't care at all about giving the players a value for their dollar.

As has been said (and as I have said to the devs, on multiple occasions), the only advantage a DLC civ has over a mod is art. Nothing more.

Don't expect simply a civilization. There is more to the DLC than that.

Note: I was, and am, in the Civ5 beta; I cannot say much on this subject. Just know that I know what the hell I am talking about here.

And as I said... I may get the Mongol DLC for free (well, all DLC for free. You know what I mean), but were that not the case... I'd gladly shell out $10 for it. Babylon? No. I don't care about the civilization. The Mongol DLC however is the most fun I've had with any civ game since I first discovered Fall from Heaven 2.

Thank you...
If Fall From Heaven 2 didn't have OOS error, I wouldn't even have looked at an article for Civ 5 yet. (Unless, of course, Kael decided to make an FFH3 based on Civ 5. Then I would look)
I enjoyed Fall From Heaven 2 more than Civ 4 BTS. The only problem was the OOS error on multiplayer. That's ultimately was made me stop playing it..
P.S. Have you tried the Mod for FFH2 (I know. Mod of a mod)-Fall Further? It's actually really good. (THEY STILL NEED TO FIX THE OOS)

 

[pagh80]

..Guys.... Really? $5? Honestly... It's really not that much... I'm sure you all have a spare $5. My 9 year old cousin probably has more than that in his room...
Think about it for a sec. $5. It's a little funny... Really take a moment you consider this...

$5​

This mindset is exactly why we are seeing this trend with micro payments.
Many consumers just look at the price and pass it off as a small investment.
But 5$ here and 5$ there adds up, eventhough many people never think about it and just pays the small amount of money.
On top of that, this kind of extra content was free to get some years ago. Nowadays you get to pay for it, and apparantly are happy about it also. It must be a dream come true for these companies.

If there have ever been a time where i can understand why people sometimes lower themselves to download pirated versions of games this is it. Here im not talking about just CiV but also big games like World of Warcraft that are using micropayments extensively and is getting huge profits thanks to stupid teens with their parents credit cards.(which is even destroying the balance in the game)

 

[Aeneas7777777]

This mindset is exactly why we are seeing this trend with micro payments.
Many consumers just look at the price and pass it off as a small investment.
But 5$ here and 5$ there adds up, eventhough many people never think about it and just pays the small amount of money.
On top of that, this kind of extra content was free to get some years ago. Nowadays you get to pay for it, and apparantly are happy about it also. It must be a dream come true for these companies.

If there have ever been a time where i can understand why people sometimes lower themselves to download pirated versions of games this is it. Here im not talking about just CiV but also big games like World of Warcraft that are using micropayments extensively and is getting huge profits thanks to stupid teens with their parents credit cards.(which is even destroying the balance in the game)

DLC's are rarely sold with only 1 Civilization. Generally, you will not be paying "$5 here and $5 there." I'm not saying this hasn't happened before... I'm just saying it's rare. Chances are, though, that they will release another DLC-with more than one civilization or other features besides one civilization. In any case, if they did release multiple DLC's of one civilization, most buyers wouldn't buy each and every DLC.

 

[MoonFlare]

Well...There will be an expansion pack with many new "old" civilizations.I think that 2K\Firaxis will include DLC civilizations in it.Look at Dragon age.You can buy every single DLC or you can buy the GOTY edition with all DLC included.If you buy Babylon(and other DLC) now - prepare to be scammed by greedy 2K in the nearest future.

Deluxe Edition owners will be scammed twice.10$ for Babylon,soundtrack and a video?You can find the soundtrack in Civ5 folders.There's a lot of good music in those folders.It's free if you own Civ5!
Somebody really likes to watch behind-the-scenes videos?10$ only for Babylon?.......

 

[guspasho]

Five bucks for Babylon IS too expensive. The game costs $50 retail and that includes what, 18 civs? Even if you disregard the maps, the techs, the units, the buildings, the wonders, the resources, the policies, the music, the movies (oh wait) and the mechanics and the rest of the game, that's ~$2.75 per civ, which is still too expensive.

I have no intention of paying for Babylon until it gets bundled into a real expansion.