kochman
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Um, no thanks, it's a free country.1) Then stop complaining about lack of transparancy in the Obama Administration. This administration has been one of the most transparent.
And, I'm not alone in complaining:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/jul/16/obama-report-card-transparency-sunlight/
Ok, you from the Democrats good Republicans bad camp... I personally think both parties are pretty lame.2) Let me correct you, Republicans created, signed and enable this to happen all the while blocking democrates trying to put to make the patriot act more transparent, more accountable. Example would be Kennedy being put on the "no fly list"
I'm going to introduce you to the facts:3) /facepalm
Spoiler :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/ndaa-case-indefinite-dentention_n_1885204.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ror-suspects/2011/12/31/gIQATzbkSP_story.htmlLawyers for the Obama administration are arguing that the United States will be irreparably harmed if it has to abide by a judge's ruling that it can no longer hold terrorism suspects indefinitely without trial in military custody.
I guess those misgivings weren't serious?President Obama expressed misgivings about several provisions of a sweeping defense bill he signed into law on Saturday, pledging that his administration will use broad discretion in interpreting the measure’s legal requirements to ensure that U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism are not detained indefinitely by the military.
More facts for you:4) Democrates also gave detainees geneva convention rights which Republicans blocked. Between the undeclared war, the mess that was Gitmo with its what 76% release rate ? Obama is trying to clean up the mess left behind. Example. closing up Bush "secret" overseas prisons.
Spoiler :
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/us/politics/25rendition.html
The Obama administration will continue the Bush administration’s practice of sending terrorism suspects to third countries for detention and interrogation, but pledges to closely monitor their treatment to ensure that they are not tortured, administration officials said Monday.
You do know that this very thread is an example of doing the opposite?5) You do know that Obama had to fight tooth and nail against Republicans to water down the patriot act and make it more transparent right ?
Gore was a mess... Though I wish we'd put the Social Security $$$ in the "lockbox".6) Good on you. Though if you had voted for Gore at least we wouldnt be cleaning up Bush mess and we would have gotten more movement on the Global warming and other enviromental issues.
I support the Green Party for many reasons, protecting the US environment being one... but also for not being Neocons, support of Universal HC, and a slew of other issues. I do not support their 2nd amendment stance.