The Supervisor
Chieftain
I'll take India if available.
A Brave New World Part 2
- Thread starter EQandcivfanatic
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India is available for now. I hope you're familar with what's going on and the history of the region as it applies to this timeline
Moderator's Note I apologize for the below late responses to diplomacy, and for not updating the deadline. AS in the past, the deadline remains 6 PM on the upcoming Sunday.
To: Italy and France
From: Turkish Sultanate
Following Russia's abandonment we are willing to discuss peace. We are willing to renounce claims on the areas claimed from Greece, assuming the full military withdrawal from the Co-Axial Pact from our lands.
To: Democratic Republic of Mexico
From: Yucatan
Our nation has had a history of independence and identity over the centuries which has been continuously squelched by various governments. Do not deny us what we deserve from our rights as a people and our glorious Mayan heritage of civilization.
To: Mexico
From: Nez Perce
At this time we are not interested in a pact between our nations, as a country and people we shall begin to set our own course through history without influence from Mexico City.
To: Mexico
From: Lakota Sioux
We are more than happy to sign a proposed pact of cooperation between our two friendly nations.
To: Fox Republic
From: Sauk Kingdom
We have spent enough time listening to your mewing leaders and misguided notions. We will NEVER allow our traditions and people to be subjected to your fiction of a unified state again.
To: Fox Republic
From: Isanti
We will not reunite as a single nation, as our people have seen enough rule from other tribes, and we shall guide our own course from here on out. We will however be willing to take measures of defense against possible Sauk aggression and the theoretical revival of their militaristic past.
To: Republic of New England
From: Cuba
We will be happy to give you 50% of all taken ships, providing we select which to send you.
To: Virginia
From; Sauk Kingdom
As the original state in the region, we deserve the reparations more than oru misguided brethren.
Moderator's Note I apologize for the below late responses to diplomacy, and for not updating the deadline. AS in the past, the deadline remains 6 PM on the upcoming Sunday.
To: Italy and France
From: Turkish Sultanate
Following Russia's abandonment we are willing to discuss peace. We are willing to renounce claims on the areas claimed from Greece, assuming the full military withdrawal from the Co-Axial Pact from our lands.
To: Democratic Republic of Mexico
From: Yucatan
Our nation has had a history of independence and identity over the centuries which has been continuously squelched by various governments. Do not deny us what we deserve from our rights as a people and our glorious Mayan heritage of civilization.
To: Mexico
From: Nez Perce
At this time we are not interested in a pact between our nations, as a country and people we shall begin to set our own course through history without influence from Mexico City.
To: Mexico
From: Lakota Sioux
We are more than happy to sign a proposed pact of cooperation between our two friendly nations.
To: Fox Republic
From: Sauk Kingdom
We have spent enough time listening to your mewing leaders and misguided notions. We will NEVER allow our traditions and people to be subjected to your fiction of a unified state again.
To: Fox Republic
From: Isanti
We will not reunite as a single nation, as our people have seen enough rule from other tribes, and we shall guide our own course from here on out. We will however be willing to take measures of defense against possible Sauk aggression and the theoretical revival of their militaristic past.
To: Republic of New England
From: Cuba
We will be happy to give you 50% of all taken ships, providing we select which to send you.
To: Virginia
From; Sauk Kingdom
As the original state in the region, we deserve the reparations more than oru misguided brethren.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Turkish Sultanate
From: France
Due to disparate damages caused to the Republic of Italy, we must demand you pay 7 EP in reparations.
From: France
Due to disparate damages caused to the Republic of Italy, we must demand you pay 7 EP in reparations.
We have seen your surrender and accept it. We have yet to have a full meeting of the ministry [eq] to discuss our possible new terms to you.
To: Russia
From: China
Here is our proposal for possible referendums in the Manchuria area. As you can see, it is broken up into three areas. Each of these is to have a separate referendum.
I. The Chaoyang Strip was taken by Russia in the early 1900s and never returned to China. It is historically Chinese and it was lost when the illegitimate Chinese Collectives negotiated it away to Russia. As this area is likely most culturally Chinese, we could possibly hold a referendum here first with its outcome determining if the other two referendums are to take place at all. (OOC: If it votes to go with China, we hold the other two, if it votes to go with Russia we can assume the referendum would fail for us everywhere so there is no point).
II. This city is historically Mongolian but sits on the border area also has a large Chinese influence. Because it is a border town and it is difficult to determine the dominant culture we suggest this area be handled separately.
III. Manchuria proper. This area was taken by Russia some time ago. Although the Communist invasion of this area showed us that a significant and very nationalistic Chinese population still exists there, we will understand if the majority of the population has adopted Russian as their identity.
From: China
Here is our proposal for possible referendums in the Manchuria area. As you can see, it is broken up into three areas. Each of these is to have a separate referendum.
Spoiler :
I. The Chaoyang Strip was taken by Russia in the early 1900s and never returned to China. It is historically Chinese and it was lost when the illegitimate Chinese Collectives negotiated it away to Russia. As this area is likely most culturally Chinese, we could possibly hold a referendum here first with its outcome determining if the other two referendums are to take place at all. (OOC: If it votes to go with China, we hold the other two, if it votes to go with Russia we can assume the referendum would fail for us everywhere so there is no point).
II. This city is historically Mongolian but sits on the border area also has a large Chinese influence. Because it is a border town and it is difficult to determine the dominant culture we suggest this area be handled separately.
III. Manchuria proper. This area was taken by Russia some time ago. Although the Communist invasion of this area showed us that a significant and very nationalistic Chinese population still exists there, we will understand if the majority of the population has adopted Russian as their identity.
Nestea Oreo
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OOC: Mhmm, that's what I'd gathered over the last two updates. Thanks for putting their hatred for Prussia in such clear words though. Good thing I don't mind the last though. I'd become a protectorate if I wasn't sure that'd hurt my economy come a sequel.
Prussia to France, Bulgaria, Russia, Romania, Turkey
While we have no say in this we would like to note our desire to see Bulgaria inherit the eastern Constantinople and its immediately surrounding coastline of the Bosporus strait to secure Romanian and Bulgarian shipping as the western part is being returned to Russia. Such a bilaterial handover of de facto and de jure control on the respective sides of the straits will indicate trust and set a marvelous precedent for bilaterial relations, of which continued serene shipping and communal security may warm the the relations of former warring partners that ought to be good neighbors.
To: Virginia
From: Fox republic
It is clear that the reparation money from the war will go to the Fox Republic as we were the legitamate Goververnment of the war.
The Agressive sauks have shown their dislike of her surrounding neighbours, it has been made clear that they hated the war,
So why on good green earth should they be rewarded.
To: The Isanti
From: The Fox Republic
We are happy to see your disbelief in the sauks, very agressive people at heart.
It is clear that we must lean on each other if the other was to be attacked,
I propose a defensive military allience between out two nations.
From: Fox republic
It is clear that the reparation money from the war will go to the Fox Republic as we were the legitamate Goververnment of the war.
The Agressive sauks have shown their dislike of her surrounding neighbours, it has been made clear that they hated the war,
So why on good green earth should they be rewarded.
To: The Isanti
From: The Fox Republic
We are happy to see your disbelief in the sauks, very agressive people at heart.
It is clear that we must lean on each other if the other was to be attacked,
I propose a defensive military allience between out two nations.
Milarqui
Deity
I'll probably be changing to Venezuela in the next turn. Of course, if the Danish Empire dies, it'll do it on a blast.
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
The Democratic Republic of New Jersey is happy to see peace achieved around the world and is ready to embrace this new era of peace and prosperity.
TheLastJacobite
No Commies
To Korea
From Russia:
We have revised the Treaty of Harbin, considering your unconditional surrender we expect you to accept this:
Treaty of Harbin:
1) Korea will return all captured land including Hokkaido
2) Korea will end its vassalage of Japan
3) Korea will turn over all other Japanese islands to Japan
4) Korea will turn over all Chinese holdings to the Republic of China
5a) Korea's army will not exceed 100 brigades
5b) Korea will not be permitted to have a navy
5c) Korea will not be permitted to have an air force
5d) Korea will not be allowed to build fortifications on its land border, and will have a 10 mile DMZ extending from this border
6) Korea's current air force and navy will be handed over to Russian authorities.
7) Korea will hand over any and all military scientific knowledge including, but not limited to, all military blueprints.
8) The current monarch will abdicate himself in favor of his successor
9) Korea will establish a government set up on the Russian model, with first elections occurring autumn 1946
10) Korea proper will be occupied by Russia until January 1st, 1947 to ensure all portions of the treaty are met, proper elections are held, and ensure the stability of the new government
11) Korea will not be allowed to hold any foreign security agreements [military alliances] without Russian approval
From Russia:
We have revised the Treaty of Harbin, considering your unconditional surrender we expect you to accept this:
Treaty of Harbin:
1) Korea will return all captured land including Hokkaido
2) Korea will end its vassalage of Japan
3) Korea will turn over all other Japanese islands to Japan
4) Korea will turn over all Chinese holdings to the Republic of China
5a) Korea's army will not exceed 100 brigades
5b) Korea will not be permitted to have a navy
5c) Korea will not be permitted to have an air force
5d) Korea will not be allowed to build fortifications on its land border, and will have a 10 mile DMZ extending from this border
6) Korea's current air force and navy will be handed over to Russian authorities.
7) Korea will hand over any and all military scientific knowledge including, but not limited to, all military blueprints.
8) The current monarch will abdicate himself in favor of his successor
9) Korea will establish a government set up on the Russian model, with first elections occurring autumn 1946
10) Korea proper will be occupied by Russia until January 1st, 1947 to ensure all portions of the treaty are met, proper elections are held, and ensure the stability of the new government
11) Korea will not be allowed to hold any foreign security agreements [military alliances] without Russian approval
To: France
From: Sweden
We will be willing to come to the peace tables. Send us your terms over private channels and we will continue this discussion there.
(OOC: I wont be back until Sunday, am away on Thanksgiving break so please don't get mad if my replies are a bit late.)
From: Sweden
We will be willing to come to the peace tables. Send us your terms over private channels and we will continue this discussion there.
(OOC: I wont be back until Sunday, am away on Thanksgiving break so please don't get mad if my replies are a bit late.)
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: France
From: Sweden
Naturally. Our terms are forthcoming.
(OOC: Have I ever gotten mad about NES before?)
From: Sweden
Naturally. Our terms are forthcoming.
(OOC: Have I ever gotten mad about NES before?)
@crezth, yes you have
This'd be the less than 48 hour warning
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
OOC: Well I never got angry, but I may have been irritated.
SoldierChild
Anarchist
To France
From The Dutch
These terms are reasonable we accept
ooc: i was going to say let peace in europe be long lasting but F that im in the pacific now. Oh damn what to do about giving New Holland and the rest of them their independence. Well guys the dutch have had a good run
From The Dutch
These terms are reasonable we accept
ooc: i was going to say let peace in europe be long lasting but F that im in the pacific now. Oh damn what to do about giving New Holland and the rest of them their independence. Well guys the dutch have had a good run
Nestea Oreo
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OOC: Indeed, their empire is certainly the only proper one so far in 174 years of history to survive the dissolution of their motherland through a war and into a peace treaty. It'll be exciting to see how this develops.
To Russia, France, Bulgaria
Have you decided on the Bosporus strait yet? Bulgaria deserves a reward from Turkey if she is to return the western coastline of the Bosporus back to Russia. Turkey herself of course, deserves to lose at least a little more than 7 EP for all the damage she has done. Is not Korea being handled just as Russia wants? Turkey deserves more than a token slap on the wrist.
To France and Dutch Imperial Remnants
Macau must be returned to Portugal. Is Eastern New Guinea a legal French holding? If yes it should also be returned.
To Dutch Imperial Remnants from Prussia
Would you be interested in selling us Dutch Inuit Nanut for a price? Controlling your native population there may be difficult in the upcoming years of your Empire. We're interested in the fishing and mining rights and would pledge not to build bases there in order to allay the fears of North American nations. If you are indeed interested we would like to sign a deal with you for the Year of 1946.
To Russia, Galicia, proposed Transylvania and the World (with the exception of Munich, Copenhagen and London) from Prussia
We once again ask for mutual official recognition of Prussia and her rightful ownership of the illegal Munich colonies!
To Russia, France, Bulgaria
Have you decided on the Bosporus strait yet? Bulgaria deserves a reward from Turkey if she is to return the western coastline of the Bosporus back to Russia. Turkey herself of course, deserves to lose at least a little more than 7 EP for all the damage she has done. Is not Korea being handled just as Russia wants? Turkey deserves more than a token slap on the wrist.
To France and Dutch Imperial Remnants
Macau must be returned to Portugal. Is Eastern New Guinea a legal French holding? If yes it should also be returned.
To Dutch Imperial Remnants from Prussia
Would you be interested in selling us Dutch Inuit Nanut for a price? Controlling your native population there may be difficult in the upcoming years of your Empire. We're interested in the fishing and mining rights and would pledge not to build bases there in order to allay the fears of North American nations. If you are indeed interested we would like to sign a deal with you for the Year of 1946.
To Russia, Galicia, proposed Transylvania and the World (with the exception of Munich, Copenhagen and London) from Prussia
We once again ask for mutual official recognition of Prussia and her rightful ownership of the illegal Munich colonies!
Nestea Oreo
Chieftain
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Proposed Cessation of the Eastern Bosporus coastline to Bulgaria
We remind Russia that Turkey isn't being asked to limit itself in any other way than a strip of land and 7 EP, a grandiose treatment compared to negotiations elsewhere. The Axis should be tired of its benevolence to Allied nations such as Tunisia and Egypt by now. Turkey knew the price was greater than 7 EP when she decided to waste millions of Italian, French, Russian, Kurdish and Turkish lives on a selfish gamble of no result after cynically sending the Tunisians and Egyptians into the meatgrinder for herself.
We remind Russia that Turkey isn't being asked to limit itself in any other way than a strip of land and 7 EP, a grandiose treatment compared to negotiations elsewhere. The Axis should be tired of its benevolence to Allied nations such as Tunisia and Egypt by now. Turkey knew the price was greater than 7 EP when she decided to waste millions of Italian, French, Russian, Kurdish and Turkish lives on a selfish gamble of no result after cynically sending the Tunisians and Egyptians into the meatgrinder for herself.
