A Brave New World Part 2

[DarthNader]

To Germany
From Chile

If the German envoys would have done anything other than threaten or whine then they would have realized that with the statement just decreed Chile has just renounced those requests

We looked at the map you displayed, and it looked that you either a.) expected to get the purple land or b.) expected Germany to keep the land that is gray.

Lets continue this discussion through more private avenues (PMs).

 

[Justo]

OCC:
Seriously, you cannot claim land not owned by the faction who sold it to you. In addition, it was ridiculous amount of territory for one country to sell and it really reeks of OOC behavior. If you have paid money for the land then you should be mad at Churchill for swindling you.

IC:
To: Deseret
From: The Lakota Sioux

We once thought of you as that group quaint white men. We now see you for who you are the same as all greedy white man. Why else would you insist on stealing land from other people? White men are all the same, write phony treaties and then use them to steal the land other people. The truth is the leftist government did not conquer these lands. The Native American alliance did after the population rose up in revolt. There was no attack on “your” lands. It was simply a matter of people taking matters into their own hands.

These people will fight to defend their lands. We are arming them as we speak. (OOC: I have specified in my orders to purchase weapons for the leftist forces in northern Mexico.) If we must will fight you. However, the war will not be fought in Mexico. It will be fought in Deseret. We share a long border, which will be hard to defend. Our mounted warriors will find a way through and turn your “paradise” into burning land of destruction. We ask you to think long and hard about what you are truly risking by pushing your false claims

OOC: I agree about the OOC behaviour. Since taking power Churchill has sold or given away 1/4 of Mexico. And since this wasn't mentioned in the update it is possible that Churchill never even accepted this in his orders anyway. Just because someone agree to something diplomatically doesn't mean anything if its not included in orders. Also from the agreement he didn't even have to pay money for the land just assist the Imperial faction against the Leftist faction which is quite OOC imo.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

Texas did pay for the land, from the imperials. Chile also paid for the islands. Of course, sale is not the same thing as actually gaining possession. For those who disagree, I know a wonderful bridge I'd be happy to sell you.

 

[Masada]

From: Belgium
To: World

Belgium offers to fulfill all industrial contracts, that the Netherlands will be unable due to its present blockade. These will be fulfilled at the same price, with the delivery falling on the same day as negotiated with the Dutch (subject to negotiation). Refer all inquiries to the Peoples Ministry of Works, Lands, Planning, and Industry. Belgium is also offering competitive wage rates, investment opportunities (at nominal taxes) and a cooperative labor force!

 

[TheLastJacobite]

Texas did pay for the land, from the imperials. Chile also paid for the islands. Of course, sale is not the same thing as actually gaining possession. For those who disagree, I know a wonderful bridge I'd be happy to sell you.

New England is intrigued. What is this bridge you speak of?

 

[qoou]

From Russia
To the World
CC: The Netherlands, Virginia

We would like to announce that the Russian Imperial Federation has bought the Suez Canal from our friendly neighbor to the south, the Ottoman Empire. To ensure the safety of Russian workers in that area, we suggest that no military personnel attempt to cross international borders into Russian territory. Any soldier that chooses to ignore this suggestion of the Russian government's will be promptly shot by one or more of the 1,500,000 Russian soldiers there (assuming 4,000 soldiers to a brigade), or maybe even blown apart by one of the many Russian cannons there.

Thank you for your co-operation.

 

[Warman17]

To Netherlands
From Ottoman Empire:

End your unjust occupation of Egypt at once or be met with the full force of the Russian and Ottoman armies.

 

[germanicus12]

To Lakota Sioux
From Deseret

You underestimate the power of our people and our God. Sure our border may be long, but our people are more than capable of defending themselves. So if Mexico still refuses to give us what is rightfully ours, by all means have your warriors cross the border, we will have a warm reception for them.

Also, you claim we forged the papers... this is not true, the deal went through and Mexican forces, notably the Leftists, invaded and occupied Deseret lands. If you need proof just take a gander at the letters I sent to all leaders of the world, these letters bear the proof of our deals. We are not greedy, yes we want to expand since our cities are overcrowded, but we do not wish to expand dishonorably or shrewdly. We arranged our deal with Imperial Mexico, who owned the lands at the time and got the lands legally and honorably. If it were the Leftists who owned those lands, then it would have been them we would have talked to.

Again we come to this point, the Leftists do not own that land, nor do the Imperials, since the deal was approved by both governments, the lands were Deseret. Apparently Native Americans do not understand the workings of diplomacy or land transfers... this could be attributed to the fact that our white brothers dishonorably pushed you out of your ancestral lands, and I apologize for that, but it was not us. Sometimes I wonder if the Native Americans would in fact betray the Mexicans when their civil war ends by taking the lands in question, hence why you are fighting so hard to keep us out of it.

To the Leftist Faction
From Deseret

As a last resort to avoid war between our people and prevent needless bloodshed, we are willing to offer you this deal instead:

The lands will be returned to their rightful owners which is Deseret.
Deseret will officially recognize the Leftist Faction as the true government of Mexico.
Deseret will also attempt to influence the Gulf Alliance and other nations to accept the Leftist as the true government of Mexico.
Finally, Deseret will also pay a full sum of 15 IC for the lands, to reimburse the poor families who lost sons in the war and help them relocate if they so desire. Paid in full with no payments.

This seems fair for such a barren piece of lands. I am sure most nations out there would jump at such an offer.

 

[qoou]

From Russia
To World
CC: Ottomans, Netherlands, Persia, Virginia

We apologize for the inconvenience, but it seems that our ambassadors to the Ottoman Empire and Persia were insane. Please disregard all statements made by them, like the last statement about the Suez. Russia will be going isolationist now... seriously this time.


OOC: I made a big mistake.

 

[Warman17]

To World
From ottoman Empire:

Apparently the ambassadors from Russia and our ambassadors who met them had caught the same madness. Please disregard everything. >.>

 

[Masada]

To: Russia, Ottoman Empire
From: Belgium, other concerned nation-states

Are we to believe you have both gone mad?

 

[Warman17]

To: Russia, Ottoman Empire
From: Belgium, other concerned nation-states

Are we to believe you have both gone mad?

Simply low level bureaucrats who have committed treason by illegally agreeing to such deals and announcing them to the world.

 

[Ace of Gold]

To: Deseret
From: Mexico

What is this. You now recognize leftist Mexico as the true government? What ever happened to you fulfilling the treaty we made. You talk about expanding honorably and pious like men of god but you backstab your own friends. Those lands were supposed to go to you, and thats what I ordered. However the beaners invaded and now you are supporting them?

 

[qoou]

To: Russia, Ottoman Empire
From: Belgium, other concerned nation-states

Are we to believe you have both gone mad?

No, no, it was just our *right arm suddenly raises itself in a Nazi salute, left hand struggling to restrain it* ambassadors who had brief delusions of *right arm breaks out of grip of left arm, tries to choke the Russian PM, is held back by left hand* grandeur.

Cookies to whoever gets the reference (might've mixed the arms up; imagine the PM sitting in a wheel chair and speaking English with a German accent... all this in black and white).

 

[germanicus12]

To: Deseret
From: Mexico

What is this. You now recognize leftist Mexico as the true government? What ever happened to you fulfilling the treaty we made. You talk about expanding honorably and pious like men of god but you backstab your own friends. Those lands were supposed to go to you, and thats what I ordered. However the beaners invaded and now you are supporting them?

To Imperial Mexico
From Deseret

You never spoke of our deal forcing us to resort to sign a separate deal with the Leftists. The fault is your own. If you had just posted that you agreed to the deal and that the lands were indeed Deseret, then I would not have been forced down this path.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: Gulf Alliance
CC: All involved in Mexico
From: Cuba

We have had discussions in private, but we hereby announce our decision to recognize the leftist government of Mexico. We believe that in free elections, they will be more likely to stabilize MExico to aid against the threat of Norte Americano and European imperialism. It is obvious that the virus of imperialism has spread to Texas and Deseret. We do not recognize the claims they've made or their efforts. We also denounce Georgia and the plans which have been distributed to the Gulf Alliance involving their planned destruction of our sister nation of Florida. Cuba vows to defend the rights of the nations of the Floridian peninsula militarily against any invader. If our stalwart stand against the imperialist aggression of our alleged allies forces us from the Gulf Alliance, so be it. We will not sit idly by while you succumb to madness.

 

[Justo]

To Lakota Sioux
From Deseret

You underestimate the power of our people and our God. Sure our border may be long, but our people are more than capable of defending themselves. So if Mexico still refuses to give us what is rightfully ours, by all means have your warriors cross the border, we will have a warm reception for them.

Also, you claim we forged the papers... this is not true, the deal went through and Mexican forces, notably the Leftists, invaded and occupied Deseret lands. If you need proof just take a gander at the letters I sent to all leaders of the world, these letters bear the proof of our deals. We are not greedy, yes we want to expand since our cities are overcrowded, but we do not wish to expand dishonorably or shrewdly. We arranged our deal with Imperial Mexico, who owned the lands at the time and got the lands legally and honorably. If it were the Leftists who owned those lands, then it would have been them we would have talked to.

Again we come to this point, the Leftists do not own that land, nor do the Imperials, since the deal was approved by both governments, the lands were Deseret. Apparently Native Americans do not understand the workings of diplomacy or land transfers... this could be attributed to the fact that our white brothers dishonorably pushed you out of your ancestral lands, and I apologize for that, but it was not us. Sometimes I wonder if the Native Americans would in fact betray the Mexicans when their civil war ends by taking the lands in question, hence why you are fighting so hard to keep us out of it.

To the Leftist Faction
From Deseret

As a last resort to avoid war between our people and prevent needless bloodshed, we are willing to offer you this deal instead:

The lands will be returned to their rightful owners which is Deseret.
Deseret will officially recognize the Leftist Faction as the true government of Mexico.
Deseret will also attempt to influence the Gulf Alliance and other nations to accept the Leftist as the true government of Mexico.
Finally, Deseret will also pay a full sum of 15 IC for the lands, to reimburse the poor families who lost sons in the war and help them relocate if they so desire. Paid in full with no payments.

This seems fair for such a barren piece of lands. I am sure most nations out there would jump at such an offer.

OOC: These lands aren't yours and your proof means nothing. As per EQs post the Imperial government didn't accept this so your claims are false. They may have told you they accept but they didn't go through with it.

IC: To: Deseret
From: Leftist Mexico

Our informants have prooven that your claims are false. The Imperial government did not go through with this deal as insane as the Emperor may be.

Our government cannot accept your offer and we do not wish for the sale of these lands regardless of what is offered. These lands are Mexican and will remain so for all time.

If Deseret cannot accept this then so be it. We have provided more than enough evidence suggesting this land was never given to your government and feel that these discussions are going no where. As your original arrangement with the Imperial government involved war against our government we cannot accept this.

To: Texas
From: Leftist Mexico

The Socialist coalition does not recognize Texan claims on Mexican lands also. As our diplomats discussed in private. We do not recognize the dealings of the insane Emperor. During the treaty of Texan independence signed approximately 60 years ago one of the terms was that both Mexico and Texas renounce any and all claims on the other so as the avoid further potential conflict. The people of these lands in no way want to be ruled by Texas as can be seen by their instantanious revolt against Texan rule.

As offered previously we are willing to return the money Texas paid to the Emperor once the civil war is complete as it is not Texas' fault that the Emperor has gone mad.

 

[Crezth]

No, no, it was just our *right arm suddenly raises itself in a Nazi salute, left hand struggling to restrain it* ambassadors who had brief delusions of *right arm breaks out of grip of left arm, tries to choke the Russian PM, is held back by left hand* grandeur.

Cookies to whoever gets the reference (might've mixed the arms up; imagine the PM sitting in a wheel chair and speaking English with a German accent... all this in black and white).

Dr. Strangelove. Cookies please!

New England is intrigued. What is this bridge you speak of?

Why, the Bridge to Britain of course.

 

[DarthNader]

Dr. Strangelove ftw

EDIT: Curse you crosspost! You cost me a cookie!!!!

 

[TheLastJacobite]

Dr. Strangelove ftw

Get Germany out of here! They'll see the big map!