That's a fair assessment I suppose as long as we agree they have little mass support (which them seemingly suddenly getting out of nowhere was one of the bigger issues I had with the whole event) but giving you gave no In-character answer to my diplomacy, is it safe to assume that's a "no" on the possibility of a cease-fire?
A Brave New World Part 2
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That's a fair assessment I suppose as long as we agree they have little mass support (which them seemingly suddenly getting out of nowhere was one of the bigger issues I had with the whole event) but giving you gave no In-character answer to my diplomacy, is it safe to assume that's a "no" on the possibility of a cease-fire?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
TO: Canada
FROM: Georgia
Seeing as the Co-Axial Pact of Nations was jointly formed by Georgia, and not simply an extended offer, your plan has no grounds. We're not influenced by the French, at least not so much as yourselves are by Boston. If the UNSA wishes to hold Georgia back from international relations, economic opportunities and technological progress, then we will be willing to fight for our rights. If the UNSA and other American nations are threatened by a defensive alliance then maybe you all should just do something about it! Georgia will wait for your diplomatic genius to continue, and if war is indeed your option for holding back neighboring nations we will be more than happy to defend ourselves again.
TO: World
FROM: Georgia
Our alliance with France is not spontaneous. We have been allies for decades, trading partners for over a century and have no plans to stop. If the world listens to the UNSA and Germany's cries to end French relations in Georgia, our economy will suffer, our people will suffer and our neighbors will suffer from it. Since the formation of the customs unions in the UNSA and the lack of German (and allies) efforts to trade with Georgia, we are limited in trade. Such mongering behavior by those anti-Georgian governments is simply barbaric. From this day forward the nation of Georgia refutes the Treaty of Rome, our association with the North American continent and all of our would be enemies threats. Good day!
tuxedohamm
Disguised as crow.
From: Tennessee
To: World
We support the argument that Georgia's entering into the Co-Axial Pact of Nations is not a violation of the Treaty of Rome.
To: World
We support the argument that Georgia's entering into the Co-Axial Pact of Nations is not a violation of the Treaty of Rome.
Jason The King
Deity
To Georgia, France
From the Empire of Virginia
Virginia will not sit idly as France again re-asserts her power over North America. Too many have died to prevent that from happening again. Georgia is free to trade with whomever she wants, but an alliance would be in violation of the Treaty of Rome, and frankly we do not believe France that they will remain disconnected from Georgia militarily. If that were the case, then they wouldn't sign a defensive treaty in the first place. And France would not have supported Georgia in the Gulf War.
EDIT:
To Louisiana, Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, New England, Canada, Deseret, Fox Republic, Chicago, and anyone else who is interested
From the Empire of Virginia
Let us sign an agreement that will bind us to support each other in the removal of French influence from North America. The Detroit Accords will form a community with the sole goal of keeping France from recreating an Empire in North America and will work towards sanctioning those nations that help France in that endeavor.
From the Empire of Virginia
Virginia will not sit idly as France again re-asserts her power over North America. Too many have died to prevent that from happening again. Georgia is free to trade with whomever she wants, but an alliance would be in violation of the Treaty of Rome, and frankly we do not believe France that they will remain disconnected from Georgia militarily. If that were the case, then they wouldn't sign a defensive treaty in the first place. And France would not have supported Georgia in the Gulf War.
EDIT:
To Louisiana, Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, New England, Canada, Deseret, Fox Republic, Chicago, and anyone else who is interested
From the Empire of Virginia
Let us sign an agreement that will bind us to support each other in the removal of French influence from North America. The Detroit Accords will form a community with the sole goal of keeping France from recreating an Empire in North America and will work towards sanctioning those nations that help France in that endeavor.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
TO: Virginia
FROM: Georgia
Must it be reminded that Georgia and Virginia share a long standing treaty of non-aggression? Should any actions be taken against Georgia, you would only be initiating the defensive alliance with France. If no military action is taken against Georgia, no French involvement in North America will take place. Simple as, simple does. Georgia feels that Virginia is threatened by Georgia's position of power as her own is waning. We have offered alliance and cooperation only to be rejected time and time again. France is in no position to threaten the UNSA, and Georgia has no intention to allow French expansion in North America. Back down your threats before it gets turned into something neither party wants. The formation of an alliance against the Axis for no reason other than feeling weakened by your own stupidity in recent years will not end well.
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
To the Empire of Virginia
From Deseret
We will sign such an agreement. France shall never again spread to North America.
To Georgia
From Deseret
If you do not accept French power in North America's sphere of control, then why did you allow French warships to Savannah harbor and the ensuing French troops in Georgian lands for defense during the Gulf War?
As stated earlier, trading is not in violation, even Deseret would be willing to trade with France could we do so. It is the signing of an agreement that allows France to come to the Americas, or even have a say in your actions or policies. Georgia is more than capable of defending herself, and should an European power attack Georgia, I am sure Virginia and the Gulf Alliance would be willing to assist you in your defense if only to keep European influence out of the Americas.
Georgia should think more clearly and not demand protection from ghosts. The Gulf Alliance is in no shape to wage a war against Georgia, not now and not for a long time. You and your cowardly call for help made sure of that. Virginia and you have a long standing treaty of non-aggression as you said earlier, so for what reason should you require defense?
From Italy
To The North American Scare Mongers
Again I say to you all it is a defensive alliance and research pact. My God in heaven the Pope as my witness there is no empire building going on. This is simply multiple nations coming together in the face of all of these trade and military alliances who simply wanted friends in case of attack and for trade. Again Italy stipulates this is purely defensive. They way you all are trying to read the Treaty of Rome seems to be penalizing a nation who was your ally and another who was not involved. The Treaty of Rome would prevent the French nation to own land or have protectorates in North America and they are not doing so. They are not stationing troops in North America. What are you so damn afraid of?
To Tennessee
Thank you for a voice of sanity in this mess from outside both groups.
To Germany
Why are you involved in this. Both France and Italy as members in the ACC are sending naval forces to assist you per another alliance you have with France. Why are you causing problems for your Allies?
To Deseret
Then what is the problem? France has no say in domestic issues in Georgia in this alliance. It is again a defensive alliance, research pact, and trade group. So if France has no say in domestic policy in Georgia whats the problem?
To The North American Scare Mongers
Again I say to you all it is a defensive alliance and research pact. My God in heaven the Pope as my witness there is no empire building going on. This is simply multiple nations coming together in the face of all of these trade and military alliances who simply wanted friends in case of attack and for trade. Again Italy stipulates this is purely defensive. They way you all are trying to read the Treaty of Rome seems to be penalizing a nation who was your ally and another who was not involved. The Treaty of Rome would prevent the French nation to own land or have protectorates in North America and they are not doing so. They are not stationing troops in North America. What are you so damn afraid of?
To Tennessee
Thank you for a voice of sanity in this mess from outside both groups.
To Germany
Why are you involved in this. Both France and Italy as members in the ACC are sending naval forces to assist you per another alliance you have with France. Why are you causing problems for your Allies?
To Deseret
Then what is the problem? France has no say in domestic issues in Georgia in this alliance. It is again a defensive alliance, research pact, and trade group. So if France has no say in domestic policy in Georgia whats the problem?
Jason The King
Deity
The simple fact is that should France honor her alliance with Georgia, she would be violating the Treaty of Rome. The clause was put into the treaty for a reason, even if it is purely defensive France would be interfering in North American affairs once again. France has a history of issuing blank checks to North American nations whom she wished to use in order to influence her own policies on the continent. A defensive alliance IS enough to influence North American policies.
Georgia is free to sign treaties with any other nation that is not bound by the Treaty of Rome to fulfill her own insecurities.
Read above communique to Georgia.
I have conferred with headquarters in Boston and below are the reflections of New England's point of view on the various crises.
To: German Empire
CC: All concerned with the sovereignty of the Dutch nation
From: New England
We have no evidence that the Dutch sovereign truly did state the kaiser as successor to the Dutch throne. Therefore we recognize the Dutch government as the official regime. We strongly urge the German government to do the same. There are greater threats at the moment then the potential destabilization of one of the world's oldest empires.
To: THose concerned with the French and Georgian agreement
From: New England
At this time we do not view this as a breach of the Treaty of Rome and Georgia is a sovereign state capable of making its own agreements and decisions. While we are saddened by Georgia's decision to turn towards Europe, we understand their choice. If France was to attempt to meddle directly in the domestic affairs of Georgia or its neighboring countries, then we may have to take a different tone and political course.
To: German Empire
From: Republic of the Netherlands
We once more offer a peace. We have no desire for the regime change or recent unpleasantries to dissolve the united front of the European Alliance of Nations. We ask once again to recognize the new government and the republican regime.
To: German Empire
CC: All concerned with the sovereignty of the Dutch nation
From: New England
We have no evidence that the Dutch sovereign truly did state the kaiser as successor to the Dutch throne. Therefore we recognize the Dutch government as the official regime. We strongly urge the German government to do the same. There are greater threats at the moment then the potential destabilization of one of the world's oldest empires.
To: THose concerned with the French and Georgian agreement
From: New England
At this time we do not view this as a breach of the Treaty of Rome and Georgia is a sovereign state capable of making its own agreements and decisions. While we are saddened by Georgia's decision to turn towards Europe, we understand their choice. If France was to attempt to meddle directly in the domestic affairs of Georgia or its neighboring countries, then we may have to take a different tone and political course.
To: German Empire
From: Republic of the Netherlands
We once more offer a peace. We have no desire for the regime change or recent unpleasantries to dissolve the united front of the European Alliance of Nations. We ask once again to recognize the new government and the republican regime.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: North American Scare Mongers
CC: New England
From: France
Re: New England's newest communique
At last, the men of Boston display common sense. This is a high charge coming from the nation that was on the front lines in the Great War, unlike the "Honorable" Virginian Empire which stood in the back and did its best to crack the whip. Who shall you believe with regard to this treaty? If you disregard Germans so much for their being European, then not they. Then it comes to this between Virginia and New England, and Virginia - hohoho - had hardly a part in the Treaty whose false clauses they espouse.
We think New England's view is sane and urge the other North American nations to agree that it is the righteous interpretation. Not only have we agreed not to send active combat soldiers into the territory of Georgia, or its neighbors, or its neighbor's neighbors, but we have stressed that the Axis being an alliance of reaction is an alliance of equals. You confuse us with the NSA, an alliance unmistakably under the firm influence of Berlin. In the CAPN, no more influence comes from Paris than it does from Rome, or Lisbon, or Savannah. That is our uniting principle, the sovereignty of Nations, after all.
We are not in violation of this treaty. This is simple warmongering - and is why we formed the alliance with Georgia. If you wish to go to war with the republic, then by all means you may - but don't for a second think that the mighty Nation of France won't do everything in its power to ensure the Georgian soldiers are well-supplied and well-trained to guard the values they have held for almost a century and a half. This we promise.
CC: New England
From: France
Re: New England's newest communique
At last, the men of Boston display common sense. This is a high charge coming from the nation that was on the front lines in the Great War, unlike the "Honorable" Virginian Empire which stood in the back and did its best to crack the whip. Who shall you believe with regard to this treaty? If you disregard Germans so much for their being European, then not they. Then it comes to this between Virginia and New England, and Virginia - hohoho - had hardly a part in the Treaty whose false clauses they espouse.
We think New England's view is sane and urge the other North American nations to agree that it is the righteous interpretation. Not only have we agreed not to send active combat soldiers into the territory of Georgia, or its neighbors, or its neighbor's neighbors, but we have stressed that the Axis being an alliance of reaction is an alliance of equals. You confuse us with the NSA, an alliance unmistakably under the firm influence of Berlin. In the CAPN, no more influence comes from Paris than it does from Rome, or Lisbon, or Savannah. That is our uniting principle, the sovereignty of Nations, after all.
We are not in violation of this treaty. This is simple warmongering - and is why we formed the alliance with Georgia. If you wish to go to war with the republic, then by all means you may - but don't for a second think that the mighty Nation of France won't do everything in its power to ensure the Georgian soldiers are well-supplied and well-trained to guard the values they have held for almost a century and a half. This we promise.
From Italy
To New England
We are glad to see that you have understood this alliance for what it is. And you also seem to be one of the few who have noted that France said they would not send troops, claim land, influence Georgia's decisions, etc...
Italy is glad that New England has wise leaders during this troubling time of recession and rampant disease.
To North American Scare Mongers
And as Italy is not bound by the Treaty of Rome if Georgia is attacked we will support them to the hilt. Of course if you stay out of Georgia and allow us all to continue the peace we have had, well then there will be peace. Simple, huh?
To New England
We are glad to see that you have understood this alliance for what it is. And you also seem to be one of the few who have noted that France said they would not send troops, claim land, influence Georgia's decisions, etc...
Italy is glad that New England has wise leaders during this troubling time of recession and rampant disease.
To North American Scare Mongers
And as Italy is not bound by the Treaty of Rome if Georgia is attacked we will support them to the hilt. Of course if you stay out of Georgia and allow us all to continue the peace we have had, well then there will be peace. Simple, huh?
Jason The King
Deity
And Italy would turn the whole of the North American continent against her. And Virginia would relish in mowing down the poorly trained, confused and disorganized Italian riflemen on the battlefield.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
They've wanted Georgia for a century.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
They sha'nt have it. Solidarity now; solidarity forever!
To: Virginia and co
From: The Union of Mexico
The Union of Mexico is willing to agree to such a proposal. European intervention in the Americas has constantly been a destabilizing influence on our development and prosperity. We even propose potentially expanding this accord to not just include France but all European powers. Of course the pact would not seek to remove European powers currently entrenched in the Americas but instead to cease any further European expansion.
From England
to Fellow Europeans:
We propose that if these foolhardy Americans ratify such an agreement we make our own that does not permit any American interference in Europe. Or South America, Or Africa, Or Asia, Or Australia.
to Fellow Europeans:
We propose that if these foolhardy Americans ratify such an agreement we make our own that does not permit any American interference in Europe. Or South America, Or Africa, Or Asia, Or Australia.
From Italy
To England
We like your proposal it made us chuckle. We would of course exclude New England, Tennessee, and Georgia from this as they are still sane and not xenophobic.
To Georgia
If only you could cut Georgia from North America and sail it to Europe.
To England
We like your proposal it made us chuckle. We would of course exclude New England, Tennessee, and Georgia from this as they are still sane and not xenophobic.
To Georgia
If only you could cut Georgia from North America and sail it to Europe.
Jason The King
Deity
Perhaps the Italian minister better double check with his translator to make sure he understands the present conditional tense in English.
Besides we were just speaking in the same tone as you Europeans when you say "scare-mongers." If you wish to return to civil diplomacy, we would gladly accept.
