A Brave New World Part 3

New Zeeland: We want to purchase a carrier. Will someone give or lend us 4 Industrial Production plus whatever profit please?
OOC: It would be nice if one could save production points. Even if a small nation manages to raise its equipment rate it might still be unable to build a carrier in a single year, and its only wartime production which is that fast anyway.
 
Saving EPs is often abused, but I agree there should maybe a cap like 50% savings of GDP (like China has today) or several times the GDP like the Timor-Leste petroleum fund, which might work if its coupled with a throughput limit for spending in a single year/turn.

As regards your IC request, I believe we can work out a deal. If you'll check the last update (on page 18) the Mod spent part or all of New Zeeland's money (TLK forgot to send orders) on a pre-fabricated home construction company which will really come in handy. My MSN handle is toteone@gmail.com.
 
To be fair, RL you cannot construct within a year..
 
OOC: I'm pretty sure you can't sell New Zeeland a carrier, as their naval quality is not high enough to build one on their own
 
OOC: You mean like I can't maintain one? It has to be possible, otherwise there'd be almost no point in buying what you can't produce yourself and there's all the rules on the first page for buying equipment from others.
... OK. I'm sure it has to be wrong because New Holland seems to have air units above their tech level.
 
To World
From Pancasilla


We declare a fatwa against the polar ice caps. We have found them to be un-Islamic and will be destroying them within the year for their crimes.
 
To World
From Pancasilla


We declare a fatwa against the polar ice caps. We have found them to be un-Islamic and will be destroying them within the year for their crimes.

From Russia
To Pancasilla


We would prefer it if you left alone the extensive ice-caps that belong to Russia.

OOC:
Second time Russia implies that it owns most of the Arctic...
 
To World
From Pancasilla


We declare a fatwa against the polar ice caps. We have found them to be un-Islamic and will be destroying them within the year for their crimes.

Obviously this is just some sorta coverup for a homoerotic ice cube fetish.

Spoiler :


 
1. New England invaded Pennsylvania with no warning, no reasoning, no deliberation, no cooperation. No investigation into these attacks were ever launched...

While far away and our opinion thus being insignificant to the ongoing conflict NHolland would like to state that perhaps these investigations might have taken place without the outbreak of war and that perhaps it might still be possible if a cease-fire is to come into effect? Perhaps the Swedes could head such an investigation.
Regardless of whether the Red Cross aid workers were massacred by Pennsylvanians or New Englander agents Pennsylvania was a military dictatorship. Boston may have ulterior motives, but the Pennsylvanians are probably better off under New England. Similarily while we deeply respect the Virginian defense of Pennsylvania it is clear your primary concern is that of losing a friendly, sibling buffer state whom have been your family for two hundreds years. Perhaps Virginia could be compensated for by New Englander support for its annexation of a preferably genocidal dictatorship (we're sure one will appear sooner rather than later)? The New Englanders appear to be kind adoptive parents, whether their goodness is clouded in evil or not.
 
Sorry I've been gone on an FTX all weekend and haven't had much time to check the forums. I got to page 39 but I've got to go to class and so my orders might be a bit late EQ... I apologize, but then I'm only Persia so its not like anything I do will really matter to the world anyways... still, hope you'll give me a little bit of extra time, bitte?
 
While far away and our opinion thus being insignificant to the ongoing conflict NHolland would like to state that perhaps these investigations might have taken place without the outbreak of war and that perhaps it might still be possible if a cease-fire is to come into effect? Perhaps the Swedes could head such an investigation.

Virginia would support a cease fire to investigate the crimes, if indeed there were evidence and a crime scene left in tact. Our guess is that by now, New England would have already sufficiently covered up any evidence that would be condemning to them.

Regardless of whether the Red Cross aid workers were massacred by Pennsylvanians or New Englander agents Pennsylvania was a military dictatorship. Boston may have ulterior motives, but the Pennsylvanians are probably better off under New England.

Even if the previous Pennsylvanian government was a dictatorship, they are just trading one dictator for another. At least Pennsylvanians were governed by their own people.

Similarily while we deeply respect the Virginian defense of Pennsylvania it is clear your primary concern is that of losing a friendly, sibling buffer state whom have been your family for two hundreds years.

If you are saying that Virginia came to the aid of Pennsylvania because we have been friends and allies for hundreds of years, then yes you would be correct. I fail to see any point in what you said.

Perhaps Virginia could be compensated for by New Englander support for its annexation of a preferably genocidal dictatorship (we're sure one will appear sooner rather than later)? The New Englanders appear to be kind adoptive parents, whether their goodness is clouded in evil or not.

...What? Who's compensating whom for what?
 
Ooh. Orders are already due. Hm. I kind of need to talk to you EQ :(.
 
If you are saying that Virginia came to the aid of Pennsylvania because we have been friends and allies for hundreds of years, then yes you would be correct. I fail to see any point in what you said.

...What? Who's compensating whom for what?

The point we were making is that since Pennsylvania has traded one good dictator for Boston and Virginia cares for Pennsylvania then maybe it would be best for the Pennsylvania you care for to just let the matter drop. Their people surprisingly seem very content with New England's occupation, and rather upset about the Virginian effort to liberate Pennsylvania.
Additionally, and less importantly, we think that perhaps it might be possible for New England to compensate Virginia's loss of an ally and internation status by supporting her in territorial aquisitions against evil (genocidal) regimes.
We're not sure if the Pennsylvanians would vote for freedom or for annexation by New England, but we're sure they would prefer annexation to a war between their two neighbors on their own land.

Perhaps if New England promises to provide the Pennsylvanians with full voting rights within a year after cessations of hostilities? They would certainly form a powerful lobby for independence within the representative system of Boston. Conversely continued war will most likely merely push the Pennsylvanians further into the arms of their occupiers, regardless of Virginian charity and courage.
The salient fact is that continued warfare will destroy the infrastructure of Pennsylvania and render their standard of living dependent on either New England or Virginia's charity and either lead to the destruction of the New England Empire or Virginian Empire by force of arms or the further dissolution of the Virginian Empire through instability or all of the above.
 
Pancasilla announces that we now claim domain over the moon. It is our rightful land and we shall destroy all infidel who dare to claim it.
 
South Africa warns its esteemed ally Pancasilla that it should focus its conquest on one planet at a time.

After all, it still has the dangerous ice-caps to vanquish.
 
Is there any sense of dignity and sincerity left in the world...

I mean not the real one, I know its screwed to hell.

But at least in this fantasy one, wouldn't it be more outlandish to actually be reasonable.
 
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