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I can't point to any specific sources, but I have heard it used in a racial-slur context before. I think its a term that's been largely 'reclaimed', but still not kosher...
A double standard for the media
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I can't point to any specific sources, but I have heard it used in a racial-slur context before. I think its a term that's been largely 'reclaimed', but still not kosher...
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I agree that theres a double standard. Black media figures are often given a pass with crass unacceptable behavior that wouldnt be tolerated from whites. Its a subtle new form of racism among whites, its like theyre saying: oh well, dont bother, theyre just black, you cant really expect better behavior from them.
Having said that, there have been instances when high profile blacks were widely condemned, for instance when Farrakan called Judaism a 'gutter religion' and the 'Hymietown' comment from Jackson, which was already brought up. However, the only reason they were condemned for it is because they were targeting another minority which is on the Forbidden List, Jews. According to the PC logic, blacks can call each other the nword and any other derogatory term they want, in the media, all day long, but they cant direct it at another group on the list of verboten minorities.
Having said that, there have been instances when high profile blacks were widely condemned, for instance when Farrakan called Judaism a 'gutter religion' and the 'Hymietown' comment from Jackson, which was already brought up. However, the only reason they were condemned for it is because they were targeting another minority which is on the Forbidden List, Jews. According to the PC logic, blacks can call each other the nword and any other derogatory term they want, in the media, all day long, but they cant direct it at another group on the list of verboten minorities.
joycem10
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I was a kid at the time.
You have to remember the media was nothing like it is today. All I remember is some Repubs making noise about it, talk about the fracturing of the civil rights coalition between blacks and jews (I specifically remember a nightline on that very subject) and a SNL skit where Jesse sang somthing about 'Hymies'. I think it was singing Hymietown to the tune of "New York, New York".
joycem10
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I was trying to find the SNL skit and cam across a much better description of the Hymietown incident.
Hymietown, hymietown [1980s +] (U.S.) A derogatory nickname for New York City.
It is unclear whether or not the Reverend Jesse Jackson is responsible for this novel coinage, but the popularity of the term is unquestionably his doing. Apparently in 1984 Jackson referred to NYC by the handle Hymietown in off-the-record conversations with reporters. When he was initially called to task for this anti-Semitic remark he flatly denied having ever said it. Milton Coleman, a trailblazing African-American reporter from the Washington Post, insisted that Jackson had used the expression, and Jackson later admitted his "error," saying "Charge it to my head . . . not to my heart." The gaffe has since largely been ignored, but for several years it cast a pall over Jackson's career, badly damaging his 1984 bid for the presidency. The incident was even lampooned, in song, by comedian Eddie Murphy on Saturday Night Live.
The fallout from the hymietown incident has perhaps affected the reputation of Milton Coleman, the reporter who broke the story, far more than it has Jackson. In her 1993 memoir, Volunteer Slavery, former Washington Post reporter Jill Nelson refers to Coleman as the Post’s "spook gatekeeper." She characterizes Coleman as a race traitor for "derailing" Jackson’s 1984 campaign. "Afterwards, many in the black community considered him a traitor. Many still do. He is the only person I can think of who black folks – the most forgiving people on earth – refuse to pardon. The Post promoted him."
Hymietown, hymietown [1980s +] (U.S.) A derogatory nickname for New York City.
It is unclear whether or not the Reverend Jesse Jackson is responsible for this novel coinage, but the popularity of the term is unquestionably his doing. Apparently in 1984 Jackson referred to NYC by the handle Hymietown in off-the-record conversations with reporters. When he was initially called to task for this anti-Semitic remark he flatly denied having ever said it. Milton Coleman, a trailblazing African-American reporter from the Washington Post, insisted that Jackson had used the expression, and Jackson later admitted his "error," saying "Charge it to my head . . . not to my heart." The gaffe has since largely been ignored, but for several years it cast a pall over Jackson's career, badly damaging his 1984 bid for the presidency. The incident was even lampooned, in song, by comedian Eddie Murphy on Saturday Night Live.
The fallout from the hymietown incident has perhaps affected the reputation of Milton Coleman, the reporter who broke the story, far more than it has Jackson. In her 1993 memoir, Volunteer Slavery, former Washington Post reporter Jill Nelson refers to Coleman as the Post’s "spook gatekeeper." She characterizes Coleman as a race traitor for "derailing" Jackson’s 1984 campaign. "Afterwards, many in the black community considered him a traitor. Many still do. He is the only person I can think of who black folks – the most forgiving people on earth – refuse to pardon. The Post promoted him."
If you're looking for more recent fare, how about Ray Nagin, Mayor of "Chocolate City"?
Irish Caesar
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Sorry, I learned while reading the USA Today over lunch this afternoon that Atlanta is, in fact, Chocolate City.
I'm really pissed off about the Imus thing. I heard a representative from the girls' basketball team from Rutgers. She said, "Now we can start the healing process." This was in reference to the girls speaking with Imus. Healing processs? Come on! The girls are that sissified? Holy crap! If they're that sissified, then getting called "nappy headed hos" is the least of their problems.
Yeah, I thought nappy headed hos were much tougher than that.
If they're trying to encourage people to draw a direct comparison between them and the Duke Lacrosse players, they're doing a fine job.
Healing from a dumb insult issued by someone that they'd hardly ever heard of?
CartesianFart
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I have noticed last night about 11:00 that all media channels that traditionally start their half-hour evening news was all together (except the BBC news on PBS) on the Imus story and not the recent development in Iraq's Green Zone which I am starting to think this is really a true example of Corporate Media in Television and Cable uses only what to sell for the enfeeble audiences or enfeebling audiences.If they're trying to encourage people to draw a direct comparison between them and the Duke Lacrosse players, they're doing a fine job.
Healing from a dumb insult issued by someone that they'd hardly ever heard of?
That makes me even more angry. Have Sharpton and Jesse Jackson apologized to the lacrosse players for their condemnation early in the trial?
Jackson and Sharpton are media whores and scum.
CartesianFart
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For some apparent reason,their hypocrisy is rarely being uttered by media channel hosts who does the interviewing.
Aren't they all?
I just watched a video clip of Larry King interviewing some people about Imus's remarks. Every goddamn person is insane. The Rutgers's girls basketball team were called "victims". People went on and on about how Imus deserves to lose his job.
The entire goddamn world is insane.
The entire goddamn world is insane.
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