A New Name

[Putmalk]

Injecting my personal opinion in here....

Can we not include terms that self-promote the mod in the title? Things like "Better Civ V" or "Civ V: The Complete Edition". The idea behind mods are to change the way something work, but by putting those in the title you make the assertions that a) Civ V is broken and needs fixing, b) is a bad game, c) incomplete, none of which I particularly think are true. I really think if a rename is necessary (which, I don't know about that...) you should definitely consider going the expansion route, promoting the features you've changed, at the same time glorifying the vanilla expansion, and I do think it's important to keep the spirit of a community effort.

 

[JFD]

Injecting my personal opinion in here....

Can we not include terms that self-promote the mod in the title? Things like "Better Civ V" or "Civ V: The Complete Edition". The idea behind mods are to change the way something work, but by putting those in the title you make the assertions that a) Civ V is broken and needs fixing, b) is a bad game, c) incomplete, none of which I particularly think are true. I really think if a rename is necessary (which, I don't know about that...) you should definitely consider going the expansion route, promoting the features you've changed, at the same time glorifying the vanilla expansion, and I do think it's important to keep the spirit of a community effort.

The pre-existing title(s) already make this suggestion - it is after all called a (balance) patch. Besides which, a lot of people contend that civ is broken (bugs/balance, whichever), which means these sorts of titles will immediately grab their attention. And based upon what I've gleaned about the AI fixes, I would be amongst those to consider 'patch' an appropriate description - at least for the CP.

 

[Funak]

Injecting my personal opinion in here....

Can we not include terms that self-promote the mod in the title? Things like "Better Civ V" or "Civ V: The Complete Edition". The idea behind mods are to change the way something work, but by putting those in the title you make the assertions that a) Civ V is broken and needs fixing, b) is a bad game, c) incomplete, none of which I particularly think are true. I really think if a rename is necessary (which, I don't know about that...) you should definitely consider going the expansion route, promoting the features you've changed, at the same time glorifying the vanilla expansion, and I do think it's important to keep the spirit of a community effort.

Agreed, I'm cringing heavily at all these "Better" "Improved" "Ultimate" titles, feels really rude, cocky and out of place.


I don't however necessarily agree that you need to have "Community" in the name to show that it's a community project, people working on it probably know what they're providing and new people will either stick around to realize that or just not care. I do joke about it a lot but I don't think anyone here is under the illusion that Gazebo does everything himself.


EDIT: JFD is absolutely on point, the base CP is definitely a patch, the CBP is most likely an expansion pack and the full CPP experience is probably an overhaul.

 

[Gazebo]

That's part of the reason why I originally liked Community Patch and Overhaul Project. Has Community, Patch, and Overhaul, thus it captures exactly what the project does without sounding pretentious. Also it's one vowel switch away from helping with asthma (CPAP).

G

 

[Putmalk]

The pre-existing title(s) already make this suggestion - it is after all called a (balance) patch. Besides which, a lot of people contend that civ is broken (bugs/balance, whichever), which means these sorts of titles will immediately grab their attention.

100% disagree with this. You can make a balance patch without saying you're improving or changing the game...you are altering its balance, and that is subjective. You could laterally shift its balance, make it less balanced, or make it more balanced...the term "balance patch" does not make that claim that it's better.

Also, I would be more likely to lean toward a lot of people are perfectly happy with the balance and the playstyle of vanilla (like me), and the vocal minority are unhappy with the balance.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Okay. I have noted all the things that people don't want to include in the name and we are left with this:

Civ V: A Good Mod

 

[JFD]

Agreed, I'm cringing heavily at all these "Better" "Improved" "Ultimate" titles, feels really rude, cocky and out of place.

Well, that's how I felt when the "Community" Balance Patch first came out

100% disagree with this. You can make a balance patch without saying you're improving or changing the game...you are altering its balance, and that is subjective. You could laterally shift its balance, make it less balanced, or make it more balanced...the term "balance patch" does not make that claim that it's better.

A patch is quite literally something that repairs something else. That might not be improving it, sure (and I never stated otherwise), but it's definitely suggesting that "Civ V is broken and needs fixing."

 

[Putmalk]

That's part of the reason why I originally liked Community Patch and Overhaul Project. Has Community, Patch, and Overhaul, thus it captures exactly what the project does without sounding pretentious. Also it's one vowel switch away from helping with asthma (CPAP).

G

And really, it probably needs to be as simple as that, there is no need to get pretentious or overly complicated.

I am not supportive of a rename at all. If I heard two years ago "hey I'm incorporating C4DF into Community Patch Project" and then came back in february saying "hey, that mod that did that...where are they now?" I probably would take me a while to find a name change to something latin or something.

I'd keep the name as recognizable as possible to the original if a decision is made to change it.

 

[Funak]

Well, that's how I felt when the "Community" Balance Patch first came out

Same.



About the whole CPAP/CPOP, I don't think such a name-change is worth the confusion of actually making a name-change. It doesn't really solve anything.

 

[Wodhann]

Regarding "pretentious" or "cocky" names - they grab attention, and fulfill the need the player has. That is, to find a mod that wholly improves upon the flaws and spaces left by the main game. I like them.

 

[NombreyApellido]

Hi. Long time lurker. Huge fan of CBP. Congrats and thanks to everyone involved.

I feel that corporations is the stand out feature of the project. For that reason, I propose:

Civilization V: From settlers to corporations

No takers? It's ok

Story time now: I participated in a crowd sourced game that had the community word in the title tag line. When launch time was closing in, it was decided to erase it entirely because many agreed it's not a positively connoted word... Pretty heated debate on the subject.

 

[ExpiredReign]

New Horizons!
Rule or Ruin.
The Balance of Power!
Civ V: The Anthropocene.
Civilisation Evolved.

 

[Funak]

This is kinda an inside joke, but I honestly can't think of anything better, and most suggestions here have been of about the same quality so I'll just post it.

How about:
Civ 5: Call to Arms
or
Civ 5: A Call to Arms

They are definitely not descriptive at all, but it kinda highlights the combat improvements (which is probably what most people will notice) both in how the AI plans and executes battle, and in the way CPP have reworked the combat-classes and tried to get more unique and balanced gameplay and also the re-balancing of the different civs.
It also sorta reflects the whole 'Community' aspect.

In the end it doesn't say anything about the Corporations/monopolies, about the science rework, the tourism rework or the Happiness rework or the Religious rework, but anything I've tried on that front just feels weak. At the end of the day Call to Arms is at least not weak.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

If you want to highlight the improved AI, you could do something like A New Threat.

 

[Jdoug312]

I'm leaning towards Vox Populi,actually, for the whole project. There are so many people that have poured their blood, sweat, and tears into this. It may be latin, but it is such a common phrase that they're basically loan words for english at this point.

G

Literally had to google what this meant.

"Oy m8 you heard about this cool Civ 5 mod Vox Populi by Gazebo?"

"Faux populace by Gooseby? Gonna google it right now man"
"Dayumm it ain't into happen"

 

[Jdoug312]

Honestly, I like the current name. But if there should be a rename, Civ V: Revamped is pretty straightforward, while generating enough interest to click around and find out what all is revamped.

 

[Foch]

How about Patchy McBalanceface?

 

[Barbaro]

PsychoPatch

 

[Tomahawk.nsk]

I think that CP should stay as "Community Patch"

CBP --> Civilization V: Evolution

 

[Strigvir]

B3y0nd C1v1l1z@t10n.
And yes, I hate BE with passion. In ideal world "civilization beyond" search query would end up with CBP-related links in the first 5 results.