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A Tale of Common Things

Discussion in 'Never Ending Stories' started by Crezth, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    I suggest everyone offering trade deals should read up on MFN.
     
  2. Shadowbound

    Shadowbound Scourge of God

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    Y'all might want to read up on the actual terms of the Treaty of Montevido, since it establishes the international status of the Rio de la Plata.
     
  3. Thlayli

    Thlayli Le Pétit Prince

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    The plenipotentiaries of France approve the treaty in the name of the First Consul.
     
  4. Kraznaya

    Kraznaya Princeps

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    - Count Karl Robert Nesselrode on behalf of His Imperial Majesty Nicholas I, Emperor of Russia
     
  5. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    I applaud the restoration of order and legitimate government in the Kingdom of France under King Charles X.
     
  6. Thlayli

    Thlayli Le Pétit Prince

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    Amusing as your anecdote is, there is no monarchy in France, nor will there ever again be one, beyond the divine monarchy of Christ the King which unites us all.
     
  7. Lord of Elves

    Lord of Elves Suede-Denim Secret Police

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    Brazil would be willing to take a more active interests in Paraguayan exports and businesses, but our principle is that rather than subject our merchants and your own to specific and byzantine penalties on their freedom of trade we ought to sign a more general treaty according the desire of Brazil and Paraguay to arrive at mutually-beneficial economic resolutions in the future, according our friendship and concern for the status quo. From that point further accords could be arrived at, from the common framework of such a treaty, which would bind both our nations only to respect our mutual sovereignty, guarantee the mutual use of the Paraguay and Parana rivers and work towards the common economic benefit.

    From: Empire of Brazil
    To: Argentina
    CC: Paraguay

    We are heartened to hear that Argentina continues to abide by her agreement to respect the sovereignty and neutrality of the Uruguayan state. We are in no terms opposed to Argentine use of the Paraguay and Parana rivers, however, His Imperial Majesty's foreign office cannot condone any interruption of regular tariffs, taxes and regulations on Argentine commerce.

    Unless you are using "Rio de la Plata" to refer to all the various rivers and tributaries that flow from the Atlantic Ocean inward to South America, the status of the Parana and Paraguay Rivers can be disputed and delineated.
     
  8. Shadowbound

    Shadowbound Scourge of God

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    Seeing as the Paraguay is a tributary of the Parana River, which itself is a tributary of the Rio de la Plata, you might want to read what the 1828 Treaty has to say about the Rio and all its tributaries then.
     
  9. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    I think I will be dropping this. I want my life to be less drained by teh Interwebz. So preventing it from draining up even more time seems a good idea.
     
  10. Crezth

    Crezth 話說天下大勢分久必合合久必分

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    I hope someone swaps in, I feel Mexico is an important nation here. Who else picked it?
     
  12. Crezth

    Crezth 話說天下大勢分久必合合久必分

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    Several other people picked it, but I'm considering people to be slotted for the nations they are now unless they explicitly mention they want to switch. And please use the Pre-Thread to continue this conversation or to volunteer for Mexico.
     
  13. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    The party invited to sign the Potsdam Declaration was the Kingdom of France. So who are you again?
     
  14. ChineseWarlord

    ChineseWarlord Chieftain

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    To Brazil
    From Paraguay


    We would gladly allow you use of our rivers and create mutually beneficial economic policy as long as you would assist us in industrializing our nation.

    To Argentina
    From Paraguay


    Paraguay would be glad to sign a non-aggression pact.
     
  15. Frozen In Ice

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    - Signed, His Royal Majesty, King Wilhelm III of Prussia

    Prussia is glad Russia has been added to the treaty as their objections to their previous exclusion did make sense.
     
  16. das

    das Regeneration In Process

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    Chile proposes a mutual defensive alliance.
     
  17. Lord of Elves

    Lord of Elves Suede-Denim Secret Police

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    From: Empire of Brazil
    To: Paraguay
    CC: Argentina

    In the midst of various civil instabilities and illegal uprisings -- which will surely be quelled soon by His Imperial Majesty's armies -- the foreign office appears to have misplaced its own documents regarding the Treaty of Montevideo. International use of the various tributaries of the Rio de la Plata being guaranteed by the treaty, which we continue to respect, the particular line of discussion vis a vis Brazil's access to the Paraguay and Parana rivers is patently fruitless. The responsible parties have been sacked, as well as the parties responsible for sacking the responsible parties. The proposed arrangement, by which Paraguay and Brazil work towards their mutual modernization, industrialization and economic benefit is wholly acceptable to the Lord Regent and the government which rules on His Imperial Majesty's behalf.

    The foreign office will contact the Paraguayan government privately in order to work out the specific details of such a treaty, which would be considered a compact of friendship, non-aggression and mutual goodwill by the Lord Regent and His Imperial Majesty's government. In no way does the foreign office consider such a treaty between Brazil and Paraguay incompatible with amicable and peaceable relations between Paraguay and Argentina.

    We are desirous of peace and the status quo.

    From: Empire of Brazil
    To: All Concerned Parties
    CC: Paraguay, Chile

    We consider an entangling web of so-called "defensive" alliances between South American states a prodigious threat to the peace and status quo, and urge all nations to avoid entering alliances with one another which would compel them to unnecessary and fruitless wars of aggression. His Imperial Majesty's government has no interest in any treaty which would compel Brazil to foreign obligations that are against its own security and best interest, and hopes that no other nation on this continent has aggressive and imperialistic designs towards its sovereign neighbors.

    This is acknowledged, though I hope you don't expect some kind of concession of defeat. :rolleyes:
     
  18. Shadowbound

    Shadowbound Scourge of God

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    No worries, Il Papa moonlights as a geography teacher, it seems. Just keep in mind that it's only good for another seven years, so you might want to get it renewed.
     
  19. Lord of Elves

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    His Holiness will be glad to know that the governments of Argentina and Uruguay have already agreed to continue to respect the Treaty of Montevideo. We have every expectation that the affirmation of respect of the treaty will not be reversed in the next seven years, and state for the benefit of all concerned parties that such a reversal would be considered a severe breach of trust and decorum by His Imperial Majesty's government.
     
  20. Wrymouth3

    Wrymouth3 Chieftain

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    Would like to claim Congress Poland if it's available. Still will remain as an interested observer if it's not available.
     

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