Aaron russo on the 9-11 inside job

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What happened to flight 77 then? Where'd all the people on that plane go? Why does the wiki page on flight 77 include numerous quotes from witnesses who saw the plane and first responders who saw plane debris? Why does the first video end with the song from Team America World Police?

Do your homework. The answer to the last question is that absurdity is best represented by irony.
 
Someone with "firsthand" knowledge/ Bush goverment insider. See what I mean:

Link to video.

I'm not really convinced at the "credibility" of this Morgan Reynolds guy.
1) He was an economist in the Bush Administration. How does being an economist qualify him to make judgement on the soundness of the engineering of the World Trade Center buildings?
2) This same Morgan Reynolds filed a Request For Correction (RFC) with NIST citing his belief that real commercial jets (Boeings) did not hit the WTC towers. Reylnolds is quoted as saying " “There were no planes, there were no hijackers. I know, I know, I'm out of the mainstream, but that's the way it is.”

Really????

There was at least one tv camera that caught American Airlines Flight 11 flying into the northern facade of the World Trade Center's North Tower (1 WTC). There were multiple cameras that caught United Airlines Flight 175 fly into the southern facade of the South Tower (2 WTC).
In addition to that, there were numerous people that witnessed AA 11 hit WTC 1, and there were hundreds (if not thousands) of people who personally witnessed UA 175 hit WTC 2. Does he believe that this camera footage was doctored and that all these witnesses fabricated what they saw as part of some sort of conspiracy???
His claim is ridiculous.

Furthermore, Reynolds (and others) maintain that that a directed energy weapon from outer space destroyed the World Trade Center Towers. :crazyeye:
 
My understanding is more that the building was designed to withstand crashes with planes. But this was more in anticipation of pilots losing control of personal aircraft or other small planes that would have been common commercial airliners in the 1970s, not coordinated strikes from larger planes like 767s. And it's also relevant to remember that the planes didn't knock down the towers; it was rather the resulting fire weakening interior steel beams which connected the inner and outer foundational structure causing the outer beams to bow in and collapse the whole tower.


The twin Towers were designed to survive the crashes of 707s. Which is an aircraft of similar size. In fact the Towers did survive the impacts of those aircraft, and would have survived, had that been all.

What the designers of the Towers failed at was understanding the magnitude of the resulting fires, and that the fire suppression and resistance abilities within the towers were not sufficient to the aftermath of the aircraft crashes. The impacts of the aircraft didn't cause the towers to collapse, the fires did.
 
Please just watch first 20 min. of this vid to see how ridiculous is the claim that the towers fell becouse of fire:
Link to video.
 
Chijohn-
I'm not really convinced at the "credibility" of this Morgan Reynolds guy.
What about Aaron Russo? Theres absolutely no reason for him to lie about Rockefellers statements.

1) He was an economist in the Bush Administration. How does being an economist qualify him to make judgement on the soundness of the engineering of the World Trade Center buildings?
2) This same Morgan Reynolds filed a Request For Correction (RFC) with NIST citing his belief that real commercial jets (Boeings) did not hit the WTC towers. Reylnolds is quoted as saying " “There were no planes, there were no hijackers. I know, I know, I'm out of the mainstream, but that's the way it is.”

Really????
I havent had time to research him yet but he is absolutely correct that there were no hijacked airliners. Its most probable that specialized drones laden with demolitions were remote piloted into the towers.
There was at least one tv camera that caught American Airlines Flight 11 flying into the northern facade of the World Trade Center's North Tower (1 WTC). There were multiple cameras that caught United Airlines Flight 175 fly into the southern facade of the South Tower (2 WTC).
Lets see them. Witnesses on the street saw "gray planes" impact the buildings, with what appears to be large pods attached to them.

In addition to that, there were numerous people that witnessed AA 11 hit WTC 1, and there were hundreds (if not thousands) of people who personally witnessed UA 175 hit WTC 2. Does he believe that this camera footage was doctored and that all these witnesses fabricated what they saw as part of some sort of conspiracy???
Experienced airline pilots dont believe that untrained hijackers were skilled enough to fly the airliners into those targets.

His claim is ridiculous.
Your presumption is ludicrous.

Furthermore, Reynolds (and others) maintain that that a directed energy weapon from outer space destroyed the World Trade Center Towers.
Its very possible considering the technology actually exists.

PS- Tell Hogmutt to stop using tobacco. Id miss raiding his mutthaus if he croaks anytime soon.
 
Mechanicalsalvation,
Please just watch first 20 min.

No.
Owen Glyndwr
Location: Berkeley, CA
Yes.

Link to video.

Do your homework. The answer to the last question is that absurdity is best represented by irony.
Very well put.
 
Clearly you are not, but clearly you are also not actually interested in convincing anybody of the veracity of your claims. So why are we here?
 
Agent 327,
Ummm, yeah, sure. Don't forget your meds now.

No, seriously, facts please. Or this didn't happen period. And before I forget we also need some credible motivation.
Facts & motives have already been provided in abundance. I dont believe you are remotely interested in the truth anyway.
 
The twin Towers were designed to survive the crashes of 707s. Which is an aircraft of similar size. In fact the Towers did survive the impacts of those aircraft, and would have survived, had that been all.

What the designers of the Towers failed at was understanding the magnitude of the resulting fires, and that the fire suppression and resistance abilities within the towers were not sufficient to the aftermath of the aircraft crashes. The impacts of the aircraft didn't cause the towers to collapse, the fires did.
Fires didnt burn long enough in the Twin Towers to cause a collapse and there wasnt enough mass or KE in the upper levels to pulverize the concrete into dust so quickly. There was also molten metal burning for 3 months under the towers and WTC7, which wasnt hit by a plane. Jet fuel only burned for a few minutes so only exothermics could burn metal for so long. Clearly, demolitions were placed inside all three buildings that collapsed in the usual way that controlled demolitions fall but more curious is the damage to building 5 and 6. Debris from both towers practically fell on those two but they didnt collapse from fires. They were severly damaged but remained mostly upright. Too many peculiarities in the governemnts blatantly false narrative and so much so that even the 911 Commission rejects it.
 
Owen Glyndwr
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Clearly you are not, but clearly you are also not actually interested in convincing anybody of the veracity of your claims. So why are we here?
Youve expended much time here so what would it hurt to review all the evidence presented even if your time is further expended?
 
I've been here long enough to know that most posters aren't worth listening to. Give me a reason to pay attention and I will. Otherwise you just aren't worth the effort.

You'll find most posters who have been around the block here feel and behave likewise.
 
Clearly you are not, but clearly you are also not actually interested in convincing anybody of the veracity of your claims. So why are we here?

That video is excelent even if it is somewhat inconclusive but has EVIDENCE in it. Watch it. I am fine if you tell me you are not convinced. After all ignorance is bliss. Peace.
 
I've been here long enough to know that most posters aren't worth listening to. Give me a reason to pay attention and I will. Otherwise you just aren't worth the effort.
Obviouly there is enough reason to examine the content or you wouldnt bother in the first place.
You'll find most posters who have been around the block here feel and behave likewise.
Argumentum ad Populum is usually a weak copout so Im not concerned.
 
That video is excelent even if it is somewhat inconclusive but has EVIDENCE in it. Watch it. I am fine if you tell me you are not convinced. After all ignorance is bliss. Peace.

If it's so conclusive why don't you TELL me what's in it. I'm not watching a 20 minute video apropos of nothing.

Argumentum ad Populum is usually a weak copout so Im not concerned.

Can't be an argumentum ad populum as it's not an argument. I'm merely informing you of the facts. You can alter your behavior or enjoy being ignored.
 
"Do your homework" is exactly the response I thought I would get, thank you.

This is conspiracy thinking 101. If you have to ask questions it is the fault of the questioner and not the proposed theory. Criticism is simply further evidence of the conspiracy and it's reach.
 
"Do your homework" is exactly the response I thought I would get, thank you.

This is conspiracy thinking 101. If you have to ask questions it is the fault of the questioner and not the proposed theory. Criticism is simply further evidence of the conspiracy and it's reach.
No kidding? You were expecting that? Your countrymen has been killed, the constitution of your country violated and the aspirations of the founding fathers lie in the dust and you come up with pretense and this gibberish?
If it's so conclusive why don't you TELL me what's in it. I'm not watching a 20 minute video apropos of nothing.
What are you talking about? I have written that its inconclusive.


To both of you. If you cant be bothered to watch the video I posted above I am not certainly let myself to be bothered by you.
 
Conspiracy: people with differing views on 9/11 have a discussion on an internet forum. Instead of hating each other, they come to understand and respect the opposing point of view. Up next on the X-files, after the football game.
 
Conspiracy: people with differing views on 9/11 have a discussion on an internet forum. Instead of hating each other, they come to understand and respect the opposing point of view. Up next on the X-files, after the football game.
I respect and do understand ignorance of others even if it means basic unwillingness to look up the facts. I also dont hate anyone. These are just an opinions after all. My life doesnt turn around corrupted goverments, domination games or self-complacent individuals. There is much more to life than that and after all I have an illumination of my own ignorance as my first concern.
 
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